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23. And we don't believe in shifting the tax burden down to the poorest
people while giving humongous tax breaks to companies whose addresses are PO boxes in the Cayman Islands and/or that ship jobs overseas.

Lower taxes yes, but do it responsibly
Sticking it to the little guy NO!
Free ride for multibillion $ corporations HELL NO!
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  -I voted for Bush in 2000; now I'm a Democrat... Here's why EvolveOrConvolve  Oct-13-06 01:15 AM   #0 
  - I see that you've been here awhile...........  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-13-06 01:24 AM   #1 
  - I'm an example of where the country went wrong  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:26 AM   #3 
  - I hope you can be an example of that too.......  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-13-06 01:31 AM   #6 
  - Larry Grant is running for Congress  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:37 AM   #9 
     - That is good to hear!  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-13-06 01:44 AM   #15 
  - I just gots to know...  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-13-06 07:41 AM   #62 
  - My dad is a Liberal  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 01:49 PM   #125 
  - You are definitely an example of where a country went wrong  Toots   Oct-13-06 08:21 AM   #68 
  - I have mixed views about swing voter converts.  liberaldemocrat7   Oct-14-06 09:56 AM   #123 
     - That's not what a true fiscal conservative should believe  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:00 PM   #126 
     - Those are all solid progressive positions.  sandyd921   Oct-14-06 09:20 PM   #155 
     - Well, lucky for us you're not the official Democratic party door greeter.  bling bling   Oct-14-06 09:47 PM   #157 
     - You don't have to be anti-safety net to be a fiscal conservative.  tasteblind   Oct-15-06 12:04 AM   #169 
        - Amen and amen!!!  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 02:55 AM   #173 
  - I can forgive Bush 2000 voters  Ignacio Upton   Oct-13-06 01:26 AM   #2 
  - Forgiveness is all I can hope for  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:29 AM   #4 
  - You're forgiven..  zidzi   Oct-14-06 03:52 PM   #147 
  - You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. Republicans , then and now,  WinkyDink   Oct-13-06 08:25 AM   #69 
  - Welcome to the party of liberals AND Goldwater conservatives!  tblue   Oct-13-06 01:30 AM   #5 
  - I'm also a fiscal conservative  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:33 AM   #7 
     - Yes, indeed. We like lower taxes - but not for the people who can afford  kysrsoze   Oct-13-06 01:44 AM   #14 
     - And we don't believe in shifting the tax burden down to the poorest  tblue   Oct-13-06 02:07 AM   #23 
     - You'd be surprised at how many of us are socially  tblue37   Oct-13-06 02:58 PM   #97 
     - Fiscal Responsibility and Fairness -  we can do it   Oct-14-06 08:19 AM   #119 
     - So is Al Gore. Anyone doubting that should read  Lorien   Oct-15-06 08:56 AM   #184 
  - Yo, Joe.  babylonsister   Oct-13-06 01:35 AM   #8 
  - No! I always hated Rush  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:41 AM   #12 
     - I consider enlightened to be educated and evolved.  babylonsister   Oct-13-06 01:45 AM   #16 
  - Dear Joe in Idaho - What a WONDERFUL post!!!  calimary   Oct-13-06 01:38 AM   #10 
  - Thanks, Calimary!  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:49 AM   #19 
  - You're gushing. Do we have any standards as dems?  terip64   Oct-13-06 08:38 AM   #75 
  - THat's a pretty  zidzi   Oct-14-06 04:04 PM   #148 
  - Use to be........  Keepontruking   Oct-13-06 01:39 AM   #11 
  - Hey, Joe. Why would you ever go back across the aisle?  kysrsoze   Oct-13-06 01:41 AM   #13 
  - I guess it's my independent spirit  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:46 AM   #18 
     - I wouldn't vote for a republican, any republican if he/she were the only  Blue State Native   Oct-13-06 08:04 AM   #65 
     - Then you are an absolutist  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:39 PM   #140 
        - Call me what you will, I will never vote for a republican, EVER! Period!  Blue State Native   Oct-14-06 08:23 PM   #151 
           - I just called you what you were...  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 02:58 AM   #174 
     - You'd switch back to Republicanism, exactly why?  crim son   Oct-14-06 08:56 PM   #154 
        - Nope, what I'm saying  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 02:50 AM   #172 
           - You mean "repuke"? Sorry; it's habit.  crim son   Oct-15-06 10:12 AM   #186 
  - I think more and more people are coming to your position  still_one   Oct-13-06 01:46 AM   #17 
  - They took fiscal conservatives like myself for granted for years  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 01:54 AM   #20 
     - good, tell us more  marions ghost   Oct-13-06 08:43 AM   #78 
  - Don't get this one, Is it a typo?  kster   Oct-13-06 02:03 AM   #21 
  - I keep hearing that from him  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 02:11 AM   #24 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 02:59 AM   #33 
     - Sure.  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 03:31 AM   #36 
        - Read his speech given at NYU  karynnj   Oct-13-06 08:37 AM   #73 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 08:47 AM   #80 
     - If you keep hearing that NOW, you must have stopped  Mass   Oct-13-06 06:26 AM   #46 
     - Huh???  MH1   Oct-14-06 08:19 AM   #118 
  - "fool me once, shame on... uh, won't get fooled again." - GWB  greeneyedboy   Oct-13-06 02:06 AM   #22 
  - Fahrenheit 9/11 is one of the things that turned me around.  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 02:12 AM   #25 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 08:03 PM   #99 
  - actually, I think his exact words were...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 06:48 AM   #52 
     - !  seasonedblue   Oct-14-06 05:06 PM   #150 
  - I welcome you, too, Joe.  evlbstrd   Oct-13-06 02:13 AM   #26 
  - We will have two years of a lame duck president  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 02:20 AM   #28 
  - No -- Impeachment is Required  Senator   Oct-13-06 04:33 AM   #38 
  - Booosh AND Cheney  rosesaylavee   Oct-13-06 06:32 AM   #47 
     - I doubt they're going to be impeached...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 06:50 AM   #54 
     - This has been exactly my point on this issue.  drm604   Oct-13-06 08:34 AM   #72 
     - I say Impeach both just because it is the right thing to do  hogwyld   Oct-14-06 12:09 AM   #107 
        - Yes. That would be fine  rosesaylavee   Oct-14-06 07:02 AM   #110 
  - you said  marions ghost   Oct-13-06 08:47 AM   #79 
  - Impeaching Bush isn't about "seizing power"  LunaC   Oct-13-06 02:18 AM   #27 
  - Whether it is or it isn't...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 05:52 AM   #41 
     - Never underestimate the wrath of the American people  LunaC   Oct-13-06 06:16 AM   #44 
     - Yes, but you have to look at where that wrath is coming from...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 06:36 AM   #48 
        - I agree with you  rosesaylavee   Oct-13-06 06:58 AM   #57 
        - Sadly, I am more pessimistic about this.  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 07:04 AM   #58 
           - I will join you  rosesaylavee   Oct-13-06 07:31 AM   #60 
        - It's more than just a failure of policy from the pRresident  LunaC   Oct-13-06 01:13 PM   #91 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 05:22 PM   #98 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-06 05:24 AM   #109 
           - And given the dismal lack  rosesaylavee   Oct-14-06 07:12 AM   #111 
     - FYI - "political reality" and support for impeachment  LunaC   Oct-14-06 03:06 PM   #142 
  - I'm from TX and understand your delimma.  keopeli   Oct-13-06 02:24 AM   #29 
  - What's tragic is that you're one honest man among  wiley   Oct-13-06 02:32 AM   #30 
  - perhaps.  Lexingtonian   Oct-13-06 02:41 AM   #31 
  - I mean "strong" in the sense of firm.  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-13-06 03:33 AM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 02:56 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 03:28 AM   #35 
     - At least she was able to support Democrats for longer than you.  Mass   Oct-13-06 06:16 AM   #43 
     - You know...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 06:47 AM   #51 
        - May be, but newcomers knowing better than everybody are irritating.  Mass   Oct-13-06 06:50 AM   #55 
        - I'm not asking you to say that everything he says is right.  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 07:05 AM   #59 
           - nope  JI7   Oct-13-06 11:42 PM   #105 
           - I'm not exactly a newbie...  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:40 PM   #141 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 08:40 AM   #77 
           - He has a point.  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 12:50 PM   #88 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 02:00 PM   #92 
              - only tiresome to those with an agenda and don't want to face the truth  JI7   Oct-13-06 11:30 PM   #102 
     - You should have moved to "planet FUCKING REALITY" before 2000 n/t  ProSense   Oct-13-06 06:43 AM   #49 
     - Yep, and that was the entire point of my post  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:09 PM   #127 
     - This thread isn't about your past mistakes; it's about criticizing  ProSense   Oct-14-06 08:47 PM   #153 
        - I think I explained pretty well the virtues  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:06 AM   #175 
     - So...no one new can vote Dem after Nov. 2000, great idea.  spoony   Oct-14-06 03:11 PM   #143 
        - Did I say that? Claiming to  ProSense   Oct-14-06 08:34 PM   #152 
           - No you didn't say that  spoony   Oct-15-06 01:19 AM   #171 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-06 08:39 AM   #76 
     - The IWR was NOT a vote for war  karynnj   Oct-13-06 08:48 AM   #81 
  - I would suggest you take a look at the whole issue of corporate personhood  kgfnally   Oct-13-06 03:01 AM   #34 
  - Glad you managed to wade through the rhetoric  democrank   Oct-13-06 04:35 AM   #39 
  - Will we get back our Bill of Rights?  PADemD   Oct-13-06 05:39 AM   #40 
  - No.  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 06:51 AM   #56 
  - If you voted for Bush, you have no excuse. What did you vote in 04?  Mass   Oct-13-06 06:11 AM   #42 
  - I pretty much agree..  sendero   Oct-13-06 06:25 AM   #45 
  - How did you vote (if you voted) in 2004, and why?  Mayberry Machiavelli   Oct-13-06 06:47 AM   #50 
  - I voted, campaigned for, and strongly supported  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:11 PM   #128 
  - And if the Dems become corrupted by the shift in power...  rucky   Oct-13-06 06:49 AM   #53 
  - "Stop the partisanship." ca-huck. Did Bush really say that?  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-13-06 07:31 AM   #61 
  - you're still wrong  tomp   Oct-13-06 07:55 AM   #63 
  - Joe, they have 2 years to work your list. If not enough results, IMO we'l  elehhhhna   Oct-13-06 07:56 AM   #64 
  - You won't get a "Welcome" message from me  matcom   Oct-13-06 08:09 AM   #66 
  - I can understand thinking that about...  yibbehobba   Oct-13-06 08:33 AM   #70 
  - What about philosophically? How do you feel about welfare and  terip64   Oct-13-06 08:14 AM   #67 
  - I'm extremely socially liberal  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:17 PM   #129 
     - "I may vote for a Republican.... it's about responsibility" - 'nuff said.  BlooInBloo   Oct-14-06 02:35 PM   #138 
     - 'nuff said - regarding what?  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:37 PM   #139 
     - As liberal as you are the repubs don't want you, but we'll keep you!  terip64   Oct-14-06 04:54 PM   #149 
        - Ummmm...I didn't get the memo that YOU get to decide who's in or out.  bling bling   Oct-14-06 10:01 PM   #159 
           - Thanks, bling bling!  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:23 AM   #176 
           - One more thing, did you ever see the Quiet Man?  terip64   Oct-15-06 09:21 AM   #185 
           - Let me tell you how the scene ends...  terip64   Oct-15-06 10:30 AM   #187 
           - Do me a favor, EOC  bling bling   Oct-15-06 11:35 AM   #188 
              - I didn't get the memo where you get to decide who is a decent American  terip64   Oct-16-06 08:09 PM   #191 
           - Power trip, I don't think so. Snobby, hmm, no, again. 10 years old, maybe  terip64   Oct-15-06 08:25 AM   #182 
  - When were Republicans ever fiscally responsible?  devilgrrl   Oct-13-06 08:33 AM   #71 
  - In The 1920's  ProfessorGAC   Oct-13-06 08:38 AM   #74 
  - I love that you have go back 80+ years to find anything positive...  devilgrrl   Oct-13-06 09:09 AM   #82 
     - Forgiven! I Think You Didn't Notice I'm Agreeing With You!  ProfessorGAC   Oct-13-06 10:49 AM   #86 
  - I was thinking today  marions ghost   Oct-13-06 09:18 AM   #84 
     - One of the last projects VP Gore did  rosesaylavee   Oct-14-06 07:32 AM   #115 
        - good example...  marions ghost   Oct-14-06 08:41 AM   #121 
  - If you are for real  marions ghost   Oct-13-06 09:11 AM   #83 
  - They have nothing to offer  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:20 PM   #130 
  - Buddy, the GOP was in power since 1994, that's 12 years  IronLionZion   Oct-13-06 09:58 AM   #85 
  - So did you used to go by the name IntelligentDesignOrResign? ;)  cui bono   Oct-13-06 12:01 PM   #87 
  - It'll only happen when the majority of people in this country speak out  kerry-is-my-prez   Oct-13-06 12:55 PM   #89 
  - I appreciate your honesty  proud patriot   Oct-13-06 01:00 PM   #90 
  - Whoa...  MH1   Oct-14-06 08:24 AM   #120 
     - Oops, you caught me  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:24 PM   #132 
        - Yep, caught you in a lie.  MH1   Oct-14-06 02:31 PM   #134 
           - You didn't catch me in a lie  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:34 PM   #137 
              - "or being totally oblivious to the facts"  MH1   Oct-14-06 03:38 PM   #145 
                 - Are you calling me a liar?  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:28 AM   #177 
  - On the question of whether we will stop corruption even  LetsGoMurphys   Oct-13-06 02:24 PM   #93 
  - Welcome!  tlsmith1963   Oct-13-06 02:30 PM   #94 
  - Don't worry about impeachment! If Congress investigates Iraq,  ProSense   Oct-13-06 02:47 PM   #95 
  - Fascism is what the stolen elections have brought us, Joe.  bobthedrummer   Oct-13-06 02:52 PM   #96 
  - I have allot more respect for Perot now than in the 90's..  flaminbats   Oct-13-06 09:33 PM   #100 
  - I made a vow to not vote for a 'R' for 20 years  Autonomy   Oct-13-06 11:18 PM   #101 
  - i have never been an ignorant Bush voter  JI7   Oct-13-06 11:34 PM   #103 
  - I never said what my "agenda" was  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:37 AM   #178 
  - Thanks for your story Joe. It is an interesting outcome from  midnight   Oct-13-06 11:37 PM   #104 
  - well  Skittles   Oct-14-06 12:05 AM   #106 
  - I really am disappointed with the reaction this post has received. The man  MJDuncan1982   Oct-14-06 12:14 AM   #108 
  - The reaction has not been uniform. Also, the OP did NOT say that he  Mayberry Machiavelli   Oct-14-06 07:19 AM   #113 
  - I know the reaction has not been uniform. I apologize if I expected an  MJDuncan1982   Oct-14-06 09:52 AM   #122 
  - Just so you know  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:26 PM   #133 
  - Apparently grudges are more important than progress to some n/t  spoony   Oct-14-06 03:14 PM   #144 
  - SANITY!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!  bling bling   Oct-14-06 10:13 PM   #160 
     - What about your "self-righteous, holier than thou, indignant attitude"?  ProSense   Oct-14-06 10:30 PM   #161 
        - What about it?  bling bling   Oct-14-06 10:51 PM   #163 
           - I would welcome a vote from the wingnutiest wingnut!  ProSense   Oct-14-06 11:10 PM   #164 
           - Wingnutiest wingnut.  bling bling   Oct-14-06 11:39 PM   #167 
           - Speaking of common sense:  ProSense   Oct-14-06 11:19 PM   #165 
              - I'm not really sure why you are responding to me.  bling bling   Oct-14-06 11:48 PM   #168 
  - If the Original Poster is still reading this thread... what was it that  Mayberry Machiavelli   Oct-14-06 07:17 AM   #112 
  - This is one of those strawmen post!  ProSense   Oct-14-06 08:10 AM   #116 
  - It was actually 9/11  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:32 PM   #135 
  - YES!  rosesaylavee   Oct-14-06 07:22 AM   #114 
  - Welcome to both of you, and there must be a way to change that  Amonester   Oct-15-06 12:27 AM   #170 
     - I agree the 'internets' have  rosesaylavee   Oct-15-06 08:48 AM   #183 
  - to not have seen bush coming in 2000 is a source of peculiarity...  bridgit   Oct-14-06 08:16 AM   #117 
  - So, in other words, you weren't paying attention. You were listening to  leesa   Oct-14-06 10:04 AM   #124 
  - Wasn't that my point?  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:56 AM   #180 
  - Hmm. You call the party in power money hungry yet you voted for them  TheGoldenRule   Oct-14-06 02:22 PM   #131 
  - So I'm not welcome here?  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-14-06 02:33 PM   #136 
     - I didn't say that.  TheGoldenRule   Oct-14-06 03:47 PM   #146 
        - I can just hope that my  EvolveOrConvolve   Oct-15-06 03:48 AM   #179 
           - I'm not perfect and I'm not a christian.  TheGoldenRule   Oct-15-06 02:21 PM   #189 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-14-06 09:31 PM   #156 
  - Congrats  FredScuttle   Oct-14-06 09:55 PM   #158 
  - I would like this a lot.  Cleita   Oct-14-06 10:36 PM   #162 
  - Welcome to the party!  RadiDem   Oct-14-06 11:24 PM   #166 
  - and it's gonna be some party !! :-)  Ms. November   Oct-16-06 10:56 PM   #192 
  - I used to be a Republican too  Raine   Oct-15-06 04:03 AM   #181 
  - I'll welcome you if no one else will  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-15-06 02:52 PM   #190 
 

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