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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-09-06 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. That gives people the ok to use sexuality as a weapon
I'm against that, period. Let the self-righteous righties do it if they want, but I don't see anything good coming from this practice.
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  -Let's discuss the morality of outing in the closet gay men and women cally  Oct-09-06 01:46 PM   #0 
  - I don't think we should out anyone who isn't a public figure and who  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 01:48 PM   #1 
  - 100% agree. n/t  DURHAM D   Oct-09-06 01:49 PM   #3 
  - How do you define hypocrite on this issue?  cally   Oct-09-06 01:50 PM   #6 
  - Well, in an obvious way.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 01:54 PM   #8 
     - But who are we to decide?  NNN0LHI   Oct-09-06 05:20 PM   #90 
  - What about staffers?  Nabeshin   Oct-09-06 02:16 PM   #30 
     - Agreed...nt  cally   Oct-09-06 02:26 PM   #38 
     - I agree. It's the hypocrisy more than the sexuality.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 02:29 PM   #42 
  - Out ALL Hypocrites In Positions Of Power... EVERYWHERE !!!  WillyT   Oct-09-06 01:48 PM   #2 
  - Yup -- if they tout "Christian values" but sleep around -- OUT THEM  LostinVA   Oct-10-06 01:49 PM   #106 
  - This is a contentious subject  bryant69   Oct-09-06 01:49 PM   #4 
  - Because a person's sexuality is only the business of that person  ContraBass Black   Oct-09-06 01:50 PM   #5 
  - I struggle with that. On one hand I agree with you, but  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 01:52 PM   #7 
  - Even if the public office holder or staff person advocates  cally   Oct-09-06 01:55 PM   #10 
  - I Have To Agree with You On This - and Include Those Damn TeleEvanaglists  we can do it   Oct-09-06 04:00 PM   #67 
  - wrong  dwickham   Oct-09-06 02:52 PM   #52 
  - I agree. Someone's sexuality is their business alone.  guinivere   Oct-09-06 05:28 PM   #93 
  - They make it everyone's business when they attack someone else's orientati  LostinVA   Oct-10-06 01:51 PM   #107 
  - I think outing is ALWAYS a bad thing  Juniperx   Oct-09-06 01:54 PM   #9 
  - Part of me thinks if we outed all the hypocrites  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 01:57 PM   #12 
  - But can you separate the hypocritical aspect from the gay aspect  Juniperx   Oct-09-06 02:08 PM   #24 
  - I think the hypocrisy is a bigger issue than their sexuality.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 02:13 PM   #26 
  - If people want to be quiet about their lives, they are well advised  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:04 PM   #69 
     - Oh, it is very different  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 01:34 PM   #102 
        - To the contrary: many secrets are not illegal.  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 01:38 PM   #104 
           - None of those areas have a mass quantity of people  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 03:06 PM   #118 
  - I think that, too  LostinVA   Oct-10-06 01:52 PM   #108 
  - I'm not sure if we'll win rights for gays and lesbians until  cally   Oct-09-06 01:58 PM   #15 
     - That gives people the ok to use sexuality as a weapon  Juniperx   Oct-09-06 02:10 PM   #25 
        - OK, I mostly agree. So how should Dems counter the argument  cally   Oct-09-06 02:15 PM   #27 
        - That argument is a straw man  Juniperx   Oct-09-06 02:36 PM   #45 
        - Not using sexuality as a weapon  Time for change   Oct-09-06 02:28 PM   #40 
           - I see it like the torture issue  Juniperx   Oct-09-06 02:32 PM   #43 
              - Suppose that Pat Robertson was elected president of the U.S.  Time for change   Oct-09-06 04:41 PM   #76 
                 - Strom Thurmond is a good case in point.  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:46 PM   #80 
                 - I don't think that's the same thing  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 01:28 PM   # 
                    - Whether it's a negative or not is in the eye of the beholder.  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 01:36 PM   #103 
                       - If it were all so simple, the term "spin" would not exist eom  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 02:56 PM   #116 
                 - Outing gays feels like anti-gay rhetoric to me eom  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 01:25 PM   #97 
                    - So do you object to revealing anything about a candidate they  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 01:28 PM   #99 
                       - No  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 01:30 PM   #100 
                          - How do you square that with the idea of a free press,  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 01:33 PM   #101 
                             - Sexual orientation should not be a concern to anyone  Juniperx   Oct-10-06 02:58 PM   #117 
  - It is sometimes OK to out a gay politician, IMHO  SteppingRazor   Oct-09-06 01:57 PM   #11 
  - That's how I feel. It's more an issue of hypocrisy.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-09-06 01:57 PM   #14 
     - This total queer agrees with everything you've said on this thread. nt  haruka3_2000   Oct-09-06 03:53 PM   #65 
  - Gay Republicans are complicit in the genocide of their own people  IanDB1   Oct-09-06 01:57 PM   #13 
  - Who is that? If it wouldn't harm them by posting a link then  cally   Oct-09-06 02:00 PM   #21 
  - Pedophiles and pederasts, yes, homosexuals, NO!  liberalmuse   Oct-09-06 01:59 PM   #16 
  - Why do you feel it's "our" decision on whether to out someone?  walldude   Oct-09-06 01:59 PM   #17 
  - I don't agree for public figures  cally   Oct-09-06 02:05 PM   #22 
     - This is a tough call no doubt,  walldude   Oct-09-06 02:22 PM   #34 
        - I absolutely have no clue  cally   Oct-09-06 03:37 PM   #58 
        - What about Santorum's staff? Like his director of communications?  Garbo 2004   Oct-09-06 05:26 PM   #92 
  - It's the hypocrisy  warrens   Oct-09-06 01:59 PM   #18 
  - It's no one's business  WolverineDG   Oct-09-06 01:59 PM   #19 
  - What happens when they got elected because the Repugs put  cally   Oct-09-06 02:07 PM   #23 
  - I had someone "out" another person  WolverineDG   Oct-09-06 02:49 PM   #50 
     - Yeah, I think we need to define the boundaries.  cally   Oct-09-06 03:39 PM   #59 
  - Why? What else do you think politicians should have the right to  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:08 PM   #70 
  - In My View, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Oct-09-06 01:59 PM   #20 
  - I have a hard time agreeing with this...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 02:18 PM   #32 
  - The Harm, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Oct-09-06 02:36 PM   #46 
     - It's better to encourage them to come out...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 04:12 PM   #71 
     - Better To Do Harm To Them, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Oct-09-06 04:36 PM   #75 
        - And by declaring war on your enemies you are also...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 04:45 PM   #79 
           - That Is True, Ma'am, And It Does Not Trouble Me  The Magistrate   Oct-09-06 04:47 PM   #82 
              - Necessary when people don't do what we want them to do...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 04:53 PM   #84 
                 - That Is What Conflict Is About, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Oct-09-06 05:13 PM   #88 
                    - There are some anti-choicers who feel the same way about abortion...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 05:21 PM   #91 
     - Where do you draw the line? And what evidence do you require?  onenote   Oct-10-06 02:32 PM   #112 
        - Same lines as any other issue. No double standard needed.  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 02:35 PM   #113 
           - can you elaborate?  onenote   Oct-10-06 02:37 PM   #115 
              - There is no single standard for any reporting regarding  mondo joe   Oct-10-06 03:06 PM   #119 
                 - the press generally doesn't report on staffers about anything  onenote   Oct-10-06 03:32 PM   #121 
  - Outing a few world-class hypocrites (gay Republicans who promote  Raksha   Oct-10-06 02:03 PM   #111 
  - Everyone should be outed  slaveplanet   Oct-09-06 02:16 PM   #28 
  - That standard makes sense to me  cally   Oct-09-06 02:24 PM   #36 
     - A case in point  slaveplanet   Oct-09-06 02:44 PM   #49 
  - If they use their position to support/endorse/pass an anti-gay agenda...  Zhade   Oct-09-06 02:16 PM   #29 
  - Rebuplicans run on people's hatred of us. I feel no shame in outing  beyurslf   Oct-09-06 02:17 PM   #31 
  - I'm not gay, but I'm 100% with you on this. If they want to stay closeted  Kahuna   Oct-09-06 02:24 PM   #37 
     - I dislike Republicans in general, but I cannot stand gay Republicans.  beyurslf   Oct-09-06 02:34 PM   #44 
  - If you're going to make life harder for people becuase they're gay,  Red Right and BLUE   Oct-09-06 02:21 PM   #33 
  - I think it is right in some circumstances  Time for change   Oct-09-06 02:23 PM   #35 
  - Who decides when it's right?  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 02:28 PM   #41 
     - Who decides when it's right?  Time for change   Oct-09-06 04:34 PM   #74 
        - So his family should pay for it, too?  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 04:41 PM   #77 
           - Not judge jury or executioner. People make their own choices,  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:44 PM   #78 
           - We're setting ourselves up as such by this kind of action...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 04:51 PM   #83 
              - "We" who? We as individuals? The press?  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:54 PM   #85 
                 - Majority of people do live a life of double standards...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 05:01 PM   #86 
                    - I'm sorry but you seem to have not answered my question.  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 05:03 PM   #87 
                       - The examples I cited are different because for one...  cynatnite   Oct-09-06 05:15 PM   #89 
                          - Unethical by whose standards?  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 05:48 PM   #94 
           - Not judge, not jury, not executioner  Time for change   Oct-09-06 10:15 PM   #96 
  - My problem with "outing" at this point  ismnotwasm   Oct-09-06 02:26 PM   #39 
  - IT WOULDN'T EVEN MATTER  EC   Oct-09-06 02:36 PM   #47 
  - In the Florida Governor race, Free Republic has already outed  B Calm   Oct-09-06 02:40 PM   #48 
  - but notice the small amount of replies.. They don't want to hear  B Calm   Oct-09-06 02:53 PM   #53 
     - If this guy is gay, I hope he wins.  cat_girl25   Oct-09-06 04:28 PM   #73 
        - Even members of Freeperville thinks he's gay, he probably is...  B Calm   Oct-09-06 04:47 PM   #81 
  - If you're in the closet, you have something to hide ->blackmail-able.  Old and In the Way   Oct-09-06 02:50 PM   #51 
  - Anyone know David Drier's record on gay rights?  mitchtv   Oct-09-06 02:58 PM   #54 
  - Out 'em all  union_maid   Oct-09-06 02:59 PM   #55 
  - If some body wants to come out that's their business.  TX-RAT   Oct-09-06 03:04 PM   #56 
  - unless they used their position to injure fellow gays  mitchtv   Oct-09-06 03:58 PM   #66 
  - Hypocrisy is part of one's character  drbtg1   Oct-09-06 03:34 PM   #57 
  - Assuming we're only talking about *republican* gay folks...  BlooInBloo   Oct-09-06 03:41 PM   #60 
  - First we have to erase the stigma that CAUSES them to be closeted  SoCalDem   Oct-09-06 03:46 PM   #61 
  - There's ALREADY a backlash. How can it get worse?  kerry-is-my-prez   Oct-09-06 03:46 PM   #62 
  - I agree with the gist of your OP.  AtomicKitten   Oct-09-06 03:49 PM   #63 
  - I think the notion of a closet is tragic.  izzybeans   Oct-09-06 03:50 PM   #64 
  - I don't regard gay outing as different from any other political outing.  mondo joe   Oct-09-06 04:02 PM   #68 
  - Projection pervades poltics.  madmusic   Oct-09-06 04:24 PM   #72 
  - There is no shame in being gay, there is nothing wrong with being gay  Tyo   Oct-09-06 05:59 PM   #95 
  - BINGO  LostinVA   Oct-10-06 01:53 PM   #109 
  - I agree that there is nothing wrong with being gay  onenote   Oct-10-06 02:36 PM   #114 
     - I tend to agree with you  Tyo   Oct-10-06 03:22 PM   #120 
  - I think that  warrior1   Oct-10-06 01:28 PM   #98 
  - If they belong to a party that makes laws against gays -- OUT THEM  LostinVA   Oct-10-06 01:48 PM   #105 
  - I was outed  FreeState   Oct-10-06 02:01 PM   #110 
 

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