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hsher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:54 AM
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3. Let me put it in movie terms
Vietnam was an absolute slaughter, and our men were poorly prepared for it. The VC were extremely skilled guerrilla-style fighters fighting on their own turf, and blew up ambushes on American soldiers like nothing we'd ever seen before or have since. Iraq isn't quite that bad yet, but I'm sure it will get there by summer 2007 if we entrench any deeper, and Iran and Syria get into it.

Iraq = typical cowboys and Indians movie gunfight scene
Vietnam = scene in "Aliens" where Gorman's and Apone's crew first meet the aliens

*Big* difference


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  -Is Iraq getting worse than Vietnam? cynatnite  Oct-08-06 12:50 AM   #0 
  - It is much worse. Screwing up Iraq is the blunder of all blunders.  The_Casual_Observer   Oct-08-06 12:52 AM   #1 
  - Yup.  BlueIris   Oct-08-06 02:54 AM   #25 
  - Only our Vietnam soldiers can answer that for us?  MadMaddie   Oct-08-06 12:53 AM   #2 
  - Two different programs. See my reply #6.  TomInTib   Oct-08-06 01:05 AM   #8 
  - Being a Vietnam vet, I wouldn't trade my experience for a tour in Iraq for  Mountainman   Oct-08-06 01:11 AM   #10 
  - Let me put it in movie terms  hsher   Oct-08-06 12:54 AM   #3 
  - Vietnam had a higher total population and more enemy troops  Kagemusha   Oct-08-06 12:55 AM   #4 
  - No.  wtmusic   Oct-08-06 12:56 AM   #5 
  - What we are overlooking here is that apart from the known casualties  TomInTib   Oct-08-06 01:01 AM   #6 
  - I think it is worse for reasons that have nothing to do with the deaths..  dicknbush   Oct-08-06 01:02 AM   #7 
  - Iraqis have intense pride in their country  wtmusic   Oct-08-06 01:14 AM   #11 
  - I haven't seen very much evidence of that.  Selatius   Oct-08-06 01:35 AM   #22 
     - A major reason Iraq has never "held itself together" in modern times  wtmusic   Oct-08-06 10:59 AM   #40 
  - Actually, dicknbush, the non-urban Vietnamese were...  TomInTib   Oct-08-06 01:19 AM   #15 
  - Vietnam - 1961 to 1964  Viva_La_Revolution   Oct-08-06 01:09 AM   #9 
  - I stand corrected  hsher   Oct-08-06 01:17 AM   #13 
  - And that's not counting the dead civilians either...  cynatnite   Oct-08-06 01:18 AM   #14 
  - Until mid-1965, it was mostly MACV.  TahitiNut   Oct-08-06 01:41 AM   #23 
  - absurd and misleading use of statistics  onenote   Oct-08-06 08:15 AM   #31 
  - I didn't think about that, sorry, it was late  Viva_La_Revolution   Oct-08-06 11:44 AM   #41 
  - Interesting stats. Thank you.  Vidar   Oct-08-06 08:18 AM   #32 
  - Oh God Not By A Long Shot. It Ain't Even Close.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Oct-08-06 01:15 AM   #12 
  - No: 300,000 wounded in Vietnam..major combat 1965-1972  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-08-06 01:19 AM   #16 
  - I don't think the comparison is stupid...  cynatnite   Oct-08-06 01:23 AM   #17 
     - You must be from western Pennsylvania.."needs asked"?  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-08-06 01:33 AM   #21 
        - Insults aside...  cynatnite   Oct-08-06 03:08 AM   #26 
           - I agree. The insults were completely unwarranted. Weird!  oblivious   Oct-08-06 04:09 AM   #28 
           - It does seem to be a problem with reading  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-08-06 07:11 AM   #29 
           - Viet Nam not a civil war?  nguoihue   Oct-08-06 08:04 AM   #30 
  - In ways yes, the amount of depleted uranium we've used must be vast  Rex   Oct-08-06 01:25 AM   #18 
  - Iraq will have WORSE CONSEQUENCES if the war is lost than Vietnam  Selatius   Oct-08-06 01:28 AM   #19 
  - Can't be compared from the outside.  TahitiNut   Oct-08-06 01:33 AM   #20 
  - we got sent to Viet Nam alone,  saigon68   Oct-08-06 02:48 AM   #24 
  - we love your kind of 'trouble making' saigon!  leftchick   Oct-08-06 08:20 AM   #34 
  - My apologies, TahitiNut...  cynatnite   Oct-08-06 03:12 AM   #27 
  - in terms of U.S. casualties, it is unlikely that iraq will 'eclipse" NAM  onenote   Oct-08-06 08:18 AM   #33 
  - None needed. I wasn't being testy toward you ... just in general.  TahitiNut   Oct-08-06 08:51 AM   #36 
  - Not a blatant crime?  nguoihue   Oct-08-06 08:35 AM   #35 
     - Please pay attention to the 'term of art' that I used.  TahitiNut   Oct-08-06 09:06 AM   #38 
        - Not talking "pursuit" into Laos and Cambodia  nguoihue   Oct-08-06 09:25 AM   #39 
  - In Vietnam we were engaged against the third largest army in the world  Toots   Oct-08-06 09:00 AM   #37 
     - Which is why this won't end soon  saigon68   Oct-09-06 09:02 AM   #42 
 

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