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Sun Oct-08-06 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #74 |
| 103. Agreed it's not about hate |
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it's more about NOT setting ourselves up for any more abuse. Being EFFECTIVE in dealing with these twisted minds is the goal. You have to meet them on their ground, not expect them to come around just because you explain why they should. We're talking about disrupting negative emotional fixations, where polite logic or common sense approaches just don't work. Tuff Luv has to be very tough.
You said it well here, hsher:
"So I don't hate Republicans, per se. I think they can be dealt with without hatred. We should be exacting and firm with them, and completely ruthless and unrelenting. Just as you'd deal with a known alcoholic family member who's stolen from your purse before. That kind of response. You don't hate them, but you don't leave your purse with them anymore under any circumstances, you assume they are lying because they probably are, and you talk tough to them and back up your words with direct, ruthless, merciless action if they transgress. Only then does the alcoholic bottom out: when there's nobody left to accept his bs anymore, and the free ride runs out. We on the left need to shut our alcoholic opposite party in a small locked room and force them to bottom out. Hate doesn't have to enter that. Dispassion is actually the best policy. Hate only hooks you to their sickness, so avoid it."
Yep.
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| -Are you angry at the Republicans? |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:04 PM |
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Oh bullshit. Anger has helped me survive these nearly six years |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:06 PM |
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Forgiveness does not mean allowing them to continue... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:09 PM |
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You're the one talking hate, I just said I was angry. I don't know |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:23 PM |
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Can you please explain to me how your anger will change the... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:24 PM |
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Yes for starters, it got about 50 people thinking about events all |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:52 PM |
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I don't believe that they were "mistakes" |
StephenB48 |
Oct-08-06 08:58 AM |
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delete - wrong spot |
ocelot |
Oct-07-06 11:12 PM |
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yes i hate them. no i dont expect to be forgiving them in this lifetime. |
bullimiami |
Oct-07-06 11:07 PM |
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I don't hate all Pubs, but I have to say, for the first time in my life, |
napi21 |
Oct-07-06 11:08 PM |
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Wow-- neuter much? |
Malikshah |
Oct-07-06 11:09 PM |
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No, you are completely wrong... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:12 PM |
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Uh-- right back at you about the incorrect business... |
Malikshah |
Oct-07-06 11:24 PM |
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Anger usually ends in violence... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:28 PM |
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But I believe that violence is necessary in some circumstances. |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:50 PM |
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Strange. |
spoony |
Oct-08-06 12:24 AM |
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I don't have much hard feelings to republicans |
agincourt |
Oct-07-06 11:10 PM |
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Don't remove the anger- but think clearly. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Oct-07-06 11:11 PM |
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Ashamed to say, yes, I hate them. |
graywarrior |
Oct-07-06 11:11 PM |
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let's just bake them cookies and shine their shoes |
eShirl |
Oct-07-06 11:11 PM |
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Did I say that? Forgiving someone does not mean giving up... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:14 PM |
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Did I say anything about wasting energy on anger? |
eShirl |
Oct-07-06 11:16 PM |
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Forgiving someone and not being angry at them... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:19 PM |
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your words |
eShirl |
Oct-07-06 11:39 PM |
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I am being quite imprecise... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:44 PM |
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no, I don't really care if they change their minds or not. |
eShirl |
Oct-08-06 12:11 AM |
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So what do you plan on doing... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:13 AM |
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so it's either be nice to them or kill them? |
eShirl |
Oct-08-06 08:26 AM |
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If you aren't planning to change their minds... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:46 AM |
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their grip on power is falling apart without any help |
eShirl |
Oct-08-06 08:58 AM |
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Yes, obviously some people are so consumed... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 09:04 AM |
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who said anything about writing off half the country's population? |
eShirl |
Oct-08-06 09:49 AM |
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Nice that you equate forgiveness with weakness. n/t |
spoony |
Oct-08-06 12:27 AM |
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Abolish the F*cking Party, I say |
NEOBuckeye |
Oct-07-06 11:12 PM |
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that would be a BIG improvement |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 12:07 AM |
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A few of us were discussing this sort of thing this evening |
dflprincess |
Oct-07-06 11:12 PM |
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I want to see anyone who has broken the law... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:17 PM |
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you are operating like a liberal... |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 12:40 AM |
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If the Dems win, there should be NO bipartisan efforts... |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:37 PM |
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Well you are right about the first part... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:38 PM |
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Catharsis. n/t |
Union Thug |
Oct-08-06 12:11 AM |
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Be NICE to them? |
ocelot |
Oct-07-06 11:13 PM |
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The DLC are sellouts, but not because they are "nice"... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:18 PM |
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I'm pissed as hell at the repukes in D.C. |
cynatnite |
Oct-07-06 11:15 PM |
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If I did not love my country, |
mmonk |
Oct-07-06 11:17 PM |
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Impeachment is necessary if they have committed crimes... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:21 PM |
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Not really possible for me. |
mmonk |
Oct-07-06 11:28 PM |
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I'm more disgusted with them |
judaspriestess |
Oct-07-06 11:18 PM |
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The animosity is ongoing. There are peaks and valleys, but |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:19 PM |
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Ditto ... |
cool user name |
Oct-07-06 11:23 PM |
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"Anger is a virtue" |
Jcrowley |
Oct-07-06 11:21 PM |
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It is easy to be angry... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:22 PM |
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Why are you preaching tonight? Church tomorrow? |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:24 PM |
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I do not attend a church.(nt) |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:29 PM |
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(shhhhhhhh. don't tell.) |
Dem2theMax |
Oct-07-06 11:37 PM |
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I was somewhat inspired by them... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:39 PM |
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Hey you, nobody said there's a damn thing wrong with forgiveness |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:47 PM |
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I know, I am strongly suggesting you forgive... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:52 PM |
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That's right. You can't make me do anything. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:57 PM |
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Have a good night! |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:58 PM |
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Thanks you too. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-07-06 11:59 PM |
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Why? Why forgiveness? I'm not trying to be oppositional, I just |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:25 PM |
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You being angry just makes you less happy... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:35 PM |
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What makes me unhappy is watching these sons of bitches... |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:45 PM |
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So you wouldn't be able to do all those good things... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:54 PM |
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It's not as simple as you want it to be. |
Union Thug |
Oct-08-06 12:08 AM |
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There is a big difference |
StephenB48 |
Oct-08-06 09:11 AM |
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DUPE_ SELF DELETE |
Union Thug |
Oct-07-06 11:25 PM |
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On the contrary |
Jcrowley |
Oct-07-06 11:27 PM |
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What would be the point of forgiveness and being the bigger person? |
LostInAnomie |
Oct-07-06 11:41 PM |
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We will not let them do that. We will not support their hatred... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:50 PM |
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You don't seem to understand that it is a battle for hegemony. |
LostInAnomie |
Oct-08-06 12:22 AM |
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The rich only have political power because we have let them get it... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:38 AM |
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No.... |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 09:37 AM |
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Who are you trying to kid with this civil rights stuff? |
LostInAnomie |
Oct-08-06 12:20 PM |
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You can most easily kill an ideology by convincing... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 01:01 PM |
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Really? |
LostInAnomie |
Oct-08-06 02:06 PM |
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Half of "gun nuts," as you term us, are NOT repubs... |
benEzra |
Oct-08-06 03:32 PM |
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I didn't realize that Kerry ran on an anti-gun platform. |
LostInAnomie |
Oct-08-06 04:52 PM |
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My point is, why MAKE it an issue? |
benEzra |
Oct-08-06 05:21 PM |
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I can totally relate to what you said, but you left something out: |
Raksha |
Oct-08-06 12:20 AM |
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My friend are you suggesting that we prevent other people... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:50 AM |
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yes |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 09:29 AM |
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"everyone understands there is only one America," |
katsy |
Oct-07-06 11:42 PM |
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Well certainly, if you devote your time and get other people... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-07-06 11:57 PM |
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I have no problem with what you are saying. |
katsy |
Oct-08-06 12:06 AM |
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Absolutely... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:52 AM |
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The irony of course is we sit back and watch the GOPers self destruct. |
Rex |
Oct-07-06 11:43 PM |
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You see their anger has been their undoing... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 12:01 AM |
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Well yes hate is a very strong emotion, but common civility calls upon |
Rex |
Oct-08-06 12:06 AM |
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Good night all... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 12:04 AM |
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What was the name of that movie? |
Greatwildbeast |
Oct-08-06 12:19 AM |
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i am angry, i dont hate them or anyone else, and i am so beyond forgiving |
seabeyond |
Oct-08-06 12:21 AM |
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I'll never take them at their word again. |
zanne |
Oct-08-06 07:41 AM |
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I'm with you. |
spoony |
Oct-08-06 12:26 AM |
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I know, the Amish are strange as a culture... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:55 AM |
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I don't hate them per se |
hsher |
Oct-08-06 12:42 AM |
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You're not a radical, you're simply hateful. |
spoony |
Oct-08-06 01:24 AM |
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Three fingers |
hsher |
Oct-08-06 02:38 AM |
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Agreed it's not about hate |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 09:50 AM |
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I fucking hate all of them. Even republican VOTERS. all are guilty |
ComerPerro |
Oct-08-06 02:41 AM |
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Heres a plan |
Brian Stevens |
Oct-08-06 07:36 AM |
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LMAO |
ComerPerro |
Oct-08-06 12:58 PM |
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They ain't worth the army time. nt |
Brian Stevens |
Oct-08-06 01:07 PM |
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Frustrated, yes. But I do truly believe there aint no time to hate. |
impeachdubya |
Oct-08-06 03:37 AM |
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I can get along fine |
fujiyama |
Oct-08-06 05:50 AM |
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A great many of the Kool Aid drinkers |
StephenB48 |
Oct-08-06 09:30 AM |
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I forgive easily. I don't forget so easily though n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-08-06 05:56 AM |
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Not sure what you mean by forgiveness |
FlaGranny |
Oct-08-06 08:46 AM |
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Forgiveness is less about them and more about you... |
originalpckelly |
Oct-08-06 08:59 AM |
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Ok you're back? Me too. Now then, this is simply not true either. |
lonestarnot |
Oct-08-06 09:36 AM |
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Right |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 10:07 AM |
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Long long long long way from that! |
lonestarnot |
Oct-08-06 10:11 AM |
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Have you ever |
marions ghost |
Oct-08-06 12:22 PM |
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Yes but... |
Hubert Flottz |
Oct-08-06 09:00 AM |
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Is this a rhetorical question? |
shayes51 |
Oct-08-06 09:23 AM |
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Angry? HELL YES!!! FOrgiving? When the trap-door |
conscious evolution |
Oct-08-06 10:10 AM |
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I can multi-task. |
rucky |
Oct-08-06 10:11 AM |
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This seems like such a silly, trivial thing to wory about. |
Oregonian |
Oct-08-06 12:24 PM |
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Eventually, I could see myself forgiving them. |
guinivere |
Oct-08-06 01:32 PM |
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You are right, of course, but I'm still MAD AS HELL! |
CanonRay |
Oct-08-06 02:22 PM |
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