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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 04:28 AM
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I think lost in all of this Foley mess is....
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the fact that our country now condones TORTURE!

I mean seriously, can you believe it? When I was growing up I never would have believed we would have explicitly tossed out Habeas Corpus and endorsed torture. I know we have our problems, but this is the US! We aren't supposed to do this stuff. Now any damn citizen who voices dissent has to wonder if they will get tossed in a secret prison and waterboarded. It's a pretty sad time in our history. The Foley story is important, no doubt, and it is so sensational that it has blown everything out of water. Plus, Woodward finally realizing what we all knew 4 years ago and writing a book about it is big news in this cycle too. But, Woodie and Foley haven't been around since the Magna Carta, and Habeas Corpus has, and the US has had over 200 years of respect around the world.

I don't think I will ever get over the fact that that torture bill destroyed everything. What a shitty thing to do to our country and what we are supposed to stand for.
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  -I think lost in all of this Foley mess is.... Wetzelbill  Oct-05-06 04:28 AM   #0 
  - I've wondered whether the GOP  Heidi   Oct-05-06 04:32 AM   #1 
  - I have felt that from the first. Bush is for Bush.  izzie   Oct-05-06 05:46 AM   #21 
     - The Buck Starts Here  exlrrp   Oct-05-06 07:31 AM   #24 
  - I hear you and mostly agree. The thing is, if the Foley story  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 04:33 AM   #2 
  - I mean besides the political stuff  Wetzelbill   Oct-05-06 04:44 AM   #4 
     - I know. Our governent is now officially our enemy.  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 04:47 AM   #5 
  - I completely agree with you but I don't cares whatever it takes  vssmith   Oct-05-06 04:40 AM   #3 
  - We don't have the moral high-ground anymore  enigmatic   Oct-05-06 04:50 AM   #6 
  - If I never hear the words "hero" or "patriot" again it will be too soon.  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 04:57 AM   #8 
  - Right on  Wetzelbill   Oct-05-06 04:57 AM   #9 
     - Mr. Kennedy could have!  enigmatic   Oct-05-06 05:02 AM   #11 
  - We are the new brutal dictators of Iraq  cleveramerican   Oct-05-06 04:57 AM   #7 
  - Welcome to DU, cleveramerican. It is saddening.  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 05:03 AM   #12 
  - People really need to quit posting that all other issues are now forgiven  acmavm   Oct-05-06 05:01 AM   #10 
  - I'm with you  enigmatic   Oct-05-06 05:04 AM   #14 
  - What do you have against string instruments?  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 05:05 AM   #15 
  - yeah but again, I am not talking about  Wetzelbill   Oct-05-06 05:11 AM   #17 
  - There used to be a time and a sentiment in this country  sfexpat2000   Oct-05-06 05:14 AM   #18 
  - I'm always taken aback that just because one issue is hot...  Pacifist Patriot   Oct-05-06 09:51 AM   #27 
     - I think you're referring to the 'Walk and Chew Gum Principal'  acmavm   Oct-05-06 10:01 AM   #29 
  - Agreed  Sherman A1   Oct-05-06 05:04 AM   #13 
  - Yes, torture and Iraq mess have been lost in the headlines  radfringe   Oct-05-06 05:09 AM   #16 
  - I think that the SC will overturn this horrible legislation.  Disturbed   Oct-05-06 05:40 AM   #19 
  - Your right, The abolishment of our constitution is  donheld   Oct-05-06 05:41 AM   #20 
  - Everything is lost in the Foley scandal, but we have to take what  Vinca   Oct-05-06 06:14 AM   #22 
  - Yes, but there's a 100% chance no one is going to overturn this  soothsayer   Oct-05-06 07:16 AM   #23 
  - Not 100%  exlrrp   Oct-05-06 07:35 AM   #25 
     - whoa thar...'splain me....  badgerpup   Oct-05-06 12:08 PM   #30 
  - I'm kinda numb from that too.  Lasher   Oct-05-06 09:15 AM   #26 
  - it ain't lost on me, i'm focused  Philosoraptor   Oct-05-06 09:53 AM   #28 
  - It is OK to murder, rape, torture Iraqi children.  cassiepriam   Oct-05-06 04:38 PM   #31 

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