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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. buying a gun and blowing my brains out?
ranting and raving on anonymous internet discussion boards?


I don't mix morality and politics, actually. I expect politics to be an immoral, nasty business - because it is. Everywhere and everytime throughout history. I expect all politicians to compromise themselves at some point. It's the nature of the beast.

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  -MSNBC: The smart politics of the detainee vote helps democrats big time ECH1969  Sep-28-06 07:07 PM   #0 
  - they didn't poll me, obviously  Lerkfish   Sep-28-06 07:08 PM   #1 
  - Me, neither. n/t  OhioChick   Sep-28-06 07:10 PM   #3 
  - I didn't get a call  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 07:13 PM   #4 
  - I don't agree with Brown on this, but I sure hope he beats Dewine.  stuartrida   Sep-28-06 07:09 PM   #2 
  - yup  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 07:22 PM   #5 
  - Aaaaah! This is not a game!  meganmonkey   Sep-28-06 07:26 PM   #6 
  - It may not be a game but we've gotta win - that's the best revenge.  kerry-is-my-prez   Sep-28-06 07:28 PM   #9 
     - You're proving my point  meganmonkey   Sep-28-06 07:32 PM   #14 
        - you tell me what can be done about it  paulk   Sep-28-06 07:48 PM   #17 
        - Winning what?  meganmonkey   Sep-28-06 07:54 PM   #18 
           - actually, instead of "your government"  paulk   Sep-29-06 11:02 AM   #29 
           - Strawmen and erroneous assumptions  meganmonkey   Sep-29-06 12:08 PM   #41 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-06 01:48 PM   #49 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-06 02:17 PM   #53 
                 - considering that the website you link to  paulk   Sep-29-06 02:56 PM   #55 
                    - Regarding World Can't Wait  meganmonkey   Sep-29-06 03:18 PM   #56 
                       - well, I can't see where you wrote "if"  paulk   Sep-29-06 06:40 PM   #57 
           - You have faith that if Sherrod Brown wins he will change his mind?  Leopolds Ghost   Sep-29-06 12:14 PM   #42 
           - so now you want to kick Sherrod Brown out of the party?  paulk   Sep-29-06 01:58 PM   #50 
              - If Sherrod Brown came out in favor of something you found deeply immoral  Leopolds Ghost   Sep-29-06 02:00 PM   #51 
                 - Not just immoral  meganmonkey   Sep-29-06 02:11 PM   #52 
                 - buying a gun and blowing my brains out?  paulk   Sep-29-06 02:37 PM   #54 
           - People are responsible for their choices. Every person in those  Skidmore   Sep-29-06 12:17 PM   #44 
           - double post  paulk   Sep-29-06 11:02 AM   #30 
        - couldn't agree more  G_j   Sep-29-06 11:47 AM   #38 
           - Thanks G_j  meganmonkey   Sep-29-06 01:27 PM   #48 
  - Doing what's right  joeunderdog   Sep-28-06 07:26 PM   #7 
  - Yeah cuz as we all know, the Democrats are in charge of this government  high density   Sep-28-06 07:27 PM   #8 
  - good point  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 07:39 PM   #15 
  - We need to ask, "What are the Dems going to do on Torture after we win?"  Leopolds Ghost   Sep-29-06 12:16 PM   #43 
  - ...But at the expense of our values!  Ignacio Upton   Sep-28-06 07:28 PM   #10 
  - I'm hoping not. This is CLEARLY unconstitutional  kysrsoze   Sep-28-06 09:14 PM   #23 
  - An accusation=guilt to Sherrod Brown.  Eric J in MN   Sep-28-06 07:28 PM   #11 
  - i see this torture bill as THE plus for the democratic party  seabeyond   Sep-28-06 07:29 PM   #12 
  - Torture is not a game. Anyone who'd try to score political  Leopolds Ghost   Sep-29-06 12:20 PM   #45 
  - No it is not. If you are no different that the Nazis You are not an  lastknowngood   Sep-28-06 07:30 PM   #13 
  - In 2002 dems had to hold their nose and vote for something  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 07:45 PM   #16 
  - This article shows everything that's wrong  Marie26   Sep-28-06 07:57 PM   #19 
  - If you don't win then you can't change policy  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 08:38 PM   #20 
     - If you don't change policy, why bother winning? nt  Marie26   Sep-28-06 09:30 PM   #24 
        - Can't we change policy after we win?  ECH1969   Sep-28-06 09:32 PM   #25 
           - I don't believe that  Marie26   Sep-28-06 09:49 PM   #28 
           - If you are not winning and only sounding like the party in charge all  Skidmore   Sep-29-06 12:21 PM   #46 
           - No, Sherrod SUPPORTS the bill. Why would he change his mind after winning?  Leopolds Ghost   Sep-29-06 12:25 PM   #47 
  - Fuck Sherrod Brown. No one put a gun to his head and made him vote  Mayberry Machiavelli   Sep-28-06 08:40 PM   #21 
  - Are all the progressives still glad  Crunchy Frog   Sep-28-06 09:09 PM   #22 
  - "Winning is everything remember that."  ContraBass Black   Sep-28-06 09:34 PM   #26 
  - Regardless as to whether to politics was smart or not  Jack Rabbit   Sep-28-06 09:40 PM   #27 
  - "these are terrorists" - HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS?!!!  jsamuel   Sep-29-06 11:06 AM   #31 
  - Hey yeah! Fuck American ideals! Torture is GOOOOOOOD  Beelzebud   Sep-29-06 11:07 AM   #32 
  - "We've polled this extensively" - In other words,  LibDemAlways   Sep-29-06 11:19 AM   #33 
  - Exactly. How pathetic. Screw ideals, just go with the polls.  Beelzebud   Sep-29-06 11:19 AM   #34 
  - Didn't like him when he screwed over Hackett..he is a liar in it for himse  ProgressiveFighter   Sep-29-06 11:45 AM   #37 
  - This quote is nutz!  William Bloode   Sep-29-06 11:28 AM   #35 
  - Smart politics?  verse18   Sep-29-06 11:42 AM   #36 
  - That's because they were too weak to frame the issue...  madmusic   Sep-29-06 11:48 AM   #39 
  - OMG: "Winning is everything" Have we come them?  mod mom   Sep-29-06 11:57 AM   #40 

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