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54. no: monica was being monica and bill was being bill
If the whole thing had been a set up and Lewinsky was part of it, she would've claimed that she was coerced. Now, once the story came out, the RW jumped on it to make it into something that it clearly wasn't, but the whole thing started because, simply put, Monica was being Monica and Bill was being Bill.
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  -Was the Lewinski scandal a conspiracy to destroy Clinton? Philosoraptor  Sep-26-06 06:10 AM   #0 
  - Well, he didn't have to open his fly.  cigsandcoffee   Sep-26-06 06:13 AM   #1 
  - And he could have been more up front about it when caught.  soothsayer   Sep-26-06 06:14 AM   #3 
  - I would rather imagine she handled that chore!  EST   Sep-26-06 06:16 AM   #5 
  - He didn`t rape her either she was more than willing  focusfan   Sep-26-06 06:21 AM   #8 
  - they called Bill a "sexual predator" for something THEY ALL DO  Philosoraptor   Sep-26-06 06:22 AM   #9 
  - I think it was the other way,she and the neo-cons were the predator  focusfan   Sep-26-06 06:39 AM   #28 
  - That's not entirely true.  Donald Ian Rankin   Sep-26-06 09:46 AM   #57 
  - Hitler ...  mzteris   Sep-26-06 10:46 AM   #69 
  - Adultery is not rare... read the Masters & Johnson studies.  politicat   Sep-26-06 03:28 PM   #76 
  - I suggest you consider the meaning of the phrase "figuratively speaking".  Donald Ian Rankin   Sep-26-06 05:53 PM   #83 
     - The attitude conveyed was not apparently figurative.  politicat   Sep-26-06 11:38 PM   #86 
        - You're reading much too much into it.  TheWraith   Sep-27-06 02:00 AM   #94 
        - I'm sorry.  Donald Ian Rankin   Sep-27-06 06:09 AM   #103 
  - adultery is not rare  pitohui   Sep-27-06 02:03 AM   #96 
     - Basing opinions on human behaiour on evolution is a very bad idea.  Donald Ian Rankin   Sep-27-06 06:00 AM   #100 
  - It is interesting  SOS   Sep-26-06 10:43 AM   #68 
     - Probably because  Yupster   Sep-27-06 01:10 AM   #88 
        - yes because she would have been prosecuted  pitohui   Sep-27-06 02:07 AM   #98 
  - umm and their spouses.  Perky   Sep-26-06 08:03 AM   #46 
  - Well, no... it was Hillary's business since she is married to Bill  Clark2008   Sep-27-06 06:11 AM   #104 
  - from this I will ask, are you one of those who wouldn't vote for Hill  madokie   Sep-26-06 06:28 AM   #12 
  - What are you talking about?  cigsandcoffee   Sep-26-06 06:32 AM   #18 
     - I don`t know about you,but  focusfan   Sep-26-06 06:45 AM   #30 
        - You're arguing a man has no choice? Please.  cigsandcoffee   Sep-26-06 07:02 AM   #36 
        - Yes, it was.. I think it's changed him for the better..  Tellurian   Sep-26-06 07:37 AM   #38 
        - That's true now. But why would anyone have expected that from  pnwmom   Sep-26-06 07:52 AM   #43 
        - oh come on  pitohui   Sep-27-06 02:15 AM   #99 
        - That's pretty sad.  Dorian Gray   Sep-26-06 03:31 PM   #77 
  - No he didn't. But what real business was it of any of ours?  pnwmom   Sep-26-06 07:49 AM   #40 
     - Times had changed  One_Life_To_Give   Sep-26-06 10:28 AM   #66 
        - Never before had an American President been attacked in a concerted  pnwmom   Sep-26-06 04:41 PM   #79 
  - We must have the same milliner, or at least ones that have...  livvy   Sep-26-06 06:14 AM   #2 
  - Many of us do.  EST   Sep-26-06 06:15 AM   #4 
  - I don't think Lewinski was a plant  OhioBlues   Sep-26-06 06:18 AM   #6 
  - Yes. I absolutely believe that.  terrya   Sep-26-06 06:18 AM   #7 
  - after all other avenues were exhausted  madokie   Sep-26-06 06:29 AM   #14 
  - Well he sure jumped into it  Yupster   Sep-27-06 01:13 AM   #89 
  - Not the affair itself  dmesg   Sep-26-06 06:23 AM   #10 
  - The con-spiracy was the continual attack on Clinton from 1994 on  liberal N proud   Sep-26-06 06:28 AM   #11 
  - I have always believed he was set up......  Missy M   Sep-26-06 06:29 AM   #13 
  - I believe time will show that to be true  madokie   Sep-26-06 06:30 AM   #15 
  - That`s the way I feel  focusfan   Sep-26-06 06:36 AM   #26 
  - Yep, I believe thats True...why wouldn't it be?  Tellurian   Sep-26-06 06:57 AM   #35 
  - she probably had sex with him also..  butterfly77   Sep-26-06 10:01 AM   #62 
     - I care about Living a LIE? The War in Iraq is a LIE and our troops  Tellurian   Sep-26-06 10:47 AM   #70 
        - Bullseye you are dead on perfect point  focusfan   Sep-27-06 06:01 AM   #101 
  - I think if it was a set-up  Yupster   Sep-27-06 01:14 AM   #90 
  - Knowing that they were looking to destroy him, he probably needed  Justice   Sep-26-06 06:31 AM   #16 
  - Linda Tripp was sent on a mission by Lucianne Goldberg to seek out  oasis   Sep-26-06 06:31 AM   #17 
  - yes, that I totally believe  Justice   Sep-26-06 06:32 AM   #20 
  - yep. I truly think  RangerSmith   Sep-26-06 06:36 AM   #25 
     - Dimwit Monica was duped by Linda Tripp (the mole).  oasis   Sep-26-06 06:48 AM   #32 
  - She didn't have to keep the dress. If she had gotten that dress dry  frankly_fedup2   Sep-26-06 06:32 AM   #19 
  - Monica had intimate phone conversations w/Tripp. She is the one who told  oasis   Sep-26-06 06:50 AM   #34 
  - And Monica would be considered a crazy  Yupster   Sep-27-06 01:16 AM   #91 
  - Why else would a "LADY" save the evidence she saved?  Hubert Flottz   Sep-26-06 06:33 AM   #21 
  - Yes- read David Brock's"Blinded by The Right"  npincus   Sep-26-06 06:33 AM   #22 
  - When 2 or more conspire, its a conspiracy  Philosoraptor   Sep-26-06 06:35 AM   #23 
     - It was a conspiracy  npincus   Sep-26-06 06:46 AM   #31 
  - It wasn't just Monica. It was the entire Star investigation  donheld   Sep-26-06 06:35 AM   #24 
  - with Starr, Tripp and Scaife involved, yes it was entrapment  Lerkfish   Sep-26-06 06:38 AM   #27 
  - Whether it was a plan or not  flblu2   Sep-26-06 06:41 AM   #29 
  - Duh  malaise   Sep-26-06 06:48 AM   #33 
  - the right wanted his head  mdmc   Sep-26-06 07:11 AM   #37 
  - Yeah but all Monica ultimately got was the Shaft  Perky   Sep-26-06 07:49 AM   #41 
     - she is making cash at some right wing DLC type place  mdmc   Sep-26-06 08:01 AM   #44 
     - You are not accusing the DLC of entrapping their own are you?  Perky   Sep-26-06 08:02 AM   #45 
     - taking care of their own  mdmc   Sep-26-06 08:17 AM   #48 
     - She was in London getting a Masters  kskiska   Sep-26-06 05:09 PM   #82 
     - Linda Tripp WAS in cahoots with the right wing  kskiska   Sep-26-06 05:03 PM   #80 
  - Well, according to Ann Coulter, Bill Clinton is gay  Penndems   Sep-26-06 07:43 AM   #39 
  - Monica wasn't the problem - trying to cover it up was.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-26-06 07:50 AM   #42 
  - covering it up was not the problem either  Perky   Sep-26-06 08:06 AM   #47 
  - He would be the only one responsible for what he did  RGBolen   Sep-26-06 08:20 AM   #49 
  - It still is..  Xenotime   Sep-26-06 09:09 AM   #50 
  - Several reasons why it was not a setup  MathGuy   Sep-26-06 09:32 AM   #51 
  - In the old days, they assassinated. Now, Character Assassination.  Beelzebud   Sep-26-06 09:34 AM   #52 
  - Oh, here we go... Discussing Lewinsky when there's a war on. AGAIN!  Prag   Sep-26-06 09:38 AM   #53 
  - so all 9000 of your posts are about the war?  onenote   Sep-26-06 09:42 AM   #56 
     - Or about any of a number of other 'High Crimes or Misdemeanors'  Prag   Sep-26-06 09:53 AM   #59 
  - no: monica was being monica and bill was being bill  onenote   Sep-26-06 09:39 AM   #54 
  - IMO Lewinsky was a target of opportunity....  sutz12   Sep-26-06 09:42 AM   #55 
  - Of course it was.  BurtWorm   Sep-26-06 09:48 AM   #58 
  - I agree with you.  nancyr   Sep-26-06 09:58 AM   #61 
  - My take is - Monica went to D.C. with a blowjob in mind  Disorganized   Sep-26-06 09:54 AM   #60 
  - deleted  aikoaiko   Sep-26-06 10:03 AM   #64 
  - Absolutely, because of PNAC  MorningGlow   Sep-26-06 10:01 AM   #63 
  - Nope, my favorite president give his enemies the ammo to nearly destroy  aikoaiko   Sep-26-06 10:04 AM   #65 
  - Richard Mellon Scaife. End of story  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-26-06 10:39 AM   #67 
  - Nah, Bill just got caught being human.  Odin2005   Sep-26-06 01:38 PM   #71 
  - It wasn't really much of a 'conspiracy,' if that's the case.  Cathyclysmic   Sep-26-06 02:04 PM   #72 
  - It certainly was as soon as Linda Tripp & Ken Starr were involved.  Vidar   Sep-26-06 02:33 PM   #73 
  - Has Everyone Forgotten the "Arkansas Project" Already?  Jacobin   Sep-26-06 02:45 PM   #74 
  - I think so.  Blue in Portland   Sep-26-06 03:14 PM   #75 
  - I knew a woman who  Yupster   Sep-27-06 01:22 AM   #92 
  - Scaife & Co.  Xap   Sep-26-06 03:41 PM   #78 
  - I don't think Monica was part of any conspiracy  ComerPerro   Sep-26-06 05:07 PM   #81 
  - I think everything but the affair itself (BC's own error) represented a  Mayberry Machiavelli   Sep-26-06 06:04 PM   #84 
  - Lewinsky could have been a foreign agent  Rockstone   Sep-26-06 06:06 PM   #85 
  - No  Ignacio Upton   Sep-26-06 11:42 PM   #87 
  - Depends on your range of conspiracy.  TheWraith   Sep-27-06 01:54 AM   #93 
  - i don't believe monica knew it, but yes  pitohui   Sep-27-06 02:02 AM   #95 
  - Lewinsky was a plant,  raysr   Sep-27-06 02:05 AM   #97 
  - If it wasn't Lewinski, it would have been something else. His legacy  B Calm   Sep-27-06 06:06 AM   #102 
  - I've always believed that Monica was Clintons punishment..  notadmblnd   Sep-27-06 06:24 AM   #105 
 

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