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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:24 AM
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Broken Benchs - Ex: “Every woman needs a good pounding every now & then."
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Edited on Mon Sep-25-06 09:52 AM by WePurrsevere
I've lived pretty much all of my life in NYS and thankfully (knock on wood) have not run across this personally although I do know a few people that have experienced similar injustices all over NY. It never occured to me however that these BS judges are not trained in ANY law at all however it explains so much.

It's not only in NY state that this is going on either. According to the article NY is one of 30 states that still work the same antiquated (and unconstitutional/unAmerican) way. Is your state one of them? We must fix these "broken benchs". :grr: :grr: :grr:

The article is long and has many more outragious examples... here are just a few:

In Tiny Courts of New York, Abuses of Law and Power

<snip>

Nearly three-quarters of the judges are not lawyers, and many — truck drivers, sewer workers or laborers — have scant grasp of the most basic legal principles. Some never got through high school, and at least one went no further than grade school.

But serious things happen in these little rooms all over New York State. People have been sent to jail without a guilty plea or a trial, or tossed from their homes without a proper proceeding. In violation of the law, defendants have been refused lawyers, or sentenced to weeks in jail because they cannot pay a fine. Frightened women have been denied protection from abuse.

<snip>

A woman in Malone, N.Y., was not amused. A mother of four, she went to court in that North Country village seeking an order of protection against her husband, who the police said had choked her, kicked her in the stomach and threatened to kill her. The justice, Donald R. Roberts, a former state trooper with a high school diploma, not only refused, according to state officials, but later told the court clerk, “Every woman needs a good pounding every now and then.” ( :grr:Until recently we lived in the town of Malone. :grr:)

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And several people in the small town of Dannemora were intimidated by their longtime justice, Thomas R. Buckley, a phone-company repairman who cursed at defendants and jailed them without bail or a trial, state disciplinary officials found. Feuding with a neighbor over her dog’s running loose, he threatened to jail her and ordered the dog killed.

“I just follow my own common sense,” Mr. Buckley, in an interview, said of his 13 years on the bench. “And the hell with the law.”


Much more at above link

(edited to change example in thread title.)
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  -Broken Benchs - Ex: “Every woman needs a good pounding every now & then." WePurrsevere  Sep-25-06 09:24 AM   #0 
  - Good night, nurse! I lived in NYS (NYC, actually) for 38 years and  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 11:29 AM   #1 
  - I want to find out which states are the 29 others like NY. Once that's  WePurrsevere   Sep-25-06 04:49 PM   #15 
     - Ooh, I skipped over that little fact. Hope NJ isn't one of 'em, but  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 07:22 PM   #16 
        - Thank you very much for the link. It's a great starting point. This is an  WePurrsevere   Sep-26-06 08:15 AM   #26 
  - Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.  impeachdubya   Sep-25-06 11:34 AM   #2 
  - I disagree with you about "Welcome to Bush's America"  Jim Lane   Sep-26-06 06:59 AM   #25 
     - I was referring to a mindset.  impeachdubya   Sep-26-06 11:24 AM   #27 
        - Yes, I agree with you about the mindset.  Jim Lane   Sep-26-06 11:52 AM   #28 
  - district justices here do not need to be lawyers  tigereye   Sep-25-06 11:44 AM   #3 
  - Last itme I heard was Non-Lawyers need to take a Six Weeks Course  happyslug   Sep-27-06 10:12 AM   #35 
  - “And the hell with the law.”  madmusic   Sep-25-06 12:29 PM   #4 
  - Scalia thinks the same way... Here's his infamous quote  SoCalDem   Sep-25-06 01:43 PM   #7 
  - link to that quote (in case anyone doubts your post)  Bozita   Sep-25-06 01:47 PM   #8 
  - "harmless error"  madmusic   Sep-25-06 03:23 PM   #12 
  - I hate, hate, hate it when people use the term "common sense"  Iris   Sep-26-06 07:08 PM   #32 
  - There are judges  Marie26   Sep-25-06 12:31 PM   #5 
  - Recommended reading from the frontpage of today's NYT  Bozita   Sep-25-06 12:36 PM   #6 
  - District Justices in Pennsylvania have no requirements either  bleedingheart   Sep-25-06 01:49 PM   #9 
  - Were these folks appointed or elected?  bleedingheart   Sep-25-06 01:55 PM   #10 
  - Judges and court officials should never be elected, I think.  Donald Ian Rankin   Sep-25-06 03:57 PM   #13 
  - Yet judges (not only justices like this) are still elected in communities  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 07:27 PM   #19 
  - I like the idea of elected Judges.  happyslug   Sep-27-06 03:10 PM   #41 
  - They're elected into most if not all positions. In some areas a part  WePurrsevere   Sep-25-06 04:44 PM   #14 
  - They are elected. It's mentioned three times in the article.  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 07:26 PM   #18 
  - you know...I need better reading glasses...I read it but I was  bleedingheart   Sep-25-06 07:36 PM   #23 
  - These are elected Positions in both NY and PA.  happyslug   Sep-27-06 02:53 PM   #40 
  - holy fuck  WindRavenX   Sep-25-06 01:56 PM   #11 
  - Quite right.  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 07:28 PM   #21 
  - !  Solly Mack   Sep-25-06 07:25 PM   #17 
  - I've got an idea  kiahzero   Sep-25-06 07:27 PM   #20 
  - Not surprised at all by this...  cynatnite   Sep-25-06 07:32 PM   #22 
  - Check for your state here  mcscajun   Sep-25-06 07:40 PM   #24 
  - Does "Limited jurisdiction" always mean the judges are voted in  WePurrsevere   Sep-27-06 09:08 AM   #33 
     - No, "Limited Justis diction" means they can only hear certain cases  happyslug   Sep-27-06 10:14 AM   #36 
     - TY, I sort of thought so but I haven't been able to find the correct term  WePurrsevere   Sep-27-06 10:31 AM   #37 
        - Various names, the Common Law name was "Justice of the Peace"  happyslug   Sep-27-06 02:43 PM   #38 
     - "Limited jurisdiction" does not always mean judges voted in,  mcscajun   Sep-27-06 05:02 PM   #43 
  - WOW. I thought this thread was going to be about sexist remarks  135th   Sep-26-06 11:52 AM   #29 
  - So maybe some progressives could get elected to these benches?  eppur_se_muova   Sep-26-06 05:56 PM   #30 
  - It may sound odd but I wonder how many of us have voted for someone w/o  WePurrsevere   Sep-26-06 07:03 PM   #31 
  - Unbelievable article. These are petty tyrants!  Strawman   Sep-27-06 09:19 AM   #34 
  - Only 8 recs.  madmusic   Sep-27-06 02:49 PM   #39 
     - More like "Who's gonna fix it?"  Kagemusha   Sep-27-06 03:10 PM   #42 
 

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