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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:17 PM
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15. I, for one, welcome the codification of Torture by Congress
Now, there can be no doubt EXACTLY who and what this nation is. There can be no quibbling. There can be no debate. We can't temporize about it.

The democratic party will finally be seen for what it truly is: I ruse, smoke and mirrors to pretend that we have a two party government.

The world can openly condemn us and we will have absolutely no defense for it.

Let's just crank it up this one final notch and declare the United States formally dead. The stink from the gangrene from the rotting limbs was getting to be too much anyway. Just bury the motherfucker.
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  -Okay, here's what I'd suggest Congress Democrats do on the torture bill Armstead  Sep-22-06 11:32 AM   #0 
  - Sounds reasonable Armstead...  kentuck   Sep-22-06 11:37 AM   #1 
  - Whatever it takes....  Armstead   Sep-22-06 11:39 AM   #2 
  - That's a sellout scenario  BeFree   Sep-22-06 11:47 AM   #3 
  - Deal with that in January  Armstead   Sep-22-06 11:52 AM   #5 
     - So  BeFree   Sep-22-06 12:11 PM   #10 
     - I'd prefer actually stopping it than just being symbolic  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:16 PM   #14 
     - The CIA shut the program down. n/t  Jim4Wes   Sep-22-06 12:34 PM   #24 
        - Yeah, right  BeFree   Sep-22-06 12:50 PM   #29 
           - Its hard to tell fact from fiction  Jim4Wes   Sep-22-06 12:57 PM   #32 
              - Participating in torture....  BeFree   Sep-22-06 01:15 PM   #34 
                 - A hearing in democratic controlled congress.  Jim4Wes   Sep-22-06 01:22 PM   #36 
                    - I will vote  BeFree   Sep-22-06 01:38 PM   #38 
                       - We need to stop the legislation, absolutely.  Jim4Wes   Sep-22-06 01:53 PM   #39 
                          - Whatever it takes....Thanks, Jim  BeFree   Sep-22-06 02:10 PM   #40 
     - FAR bigger risk to be hypocritical wimps. That risk is a given.  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:13 PM   #13 
        - Please re-read my original post  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:23 PM   #19 
           - Your proposal to "extend" and deal with when they safely have  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:30 PM   #22 
              - Um, did I say deny the truth?  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:36 PM   #25 
                 - Seeking to kill it all together is the only way to "deal with it head on".  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:45 PM   #28 
  - No extentions; No holds. JUST SAY NO to the War Criminals Protections Act  pat_k   Sep-22-06 11:48 AM   #4 
  - Yes, but this isn't the time to give Rove ammo  Armstead   Sep-22-06 11:55 AM   #6 
     - Silence for fear of what "they" might do is appeasement, pure and simple.  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:04 PM   #9 
        - I don';t disagree with you in principle  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:12 PM   #11 
           - But your suggested approach does not deal with it "head on". . .  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:37 PM   #26 
              - No it counteracts that propaganda  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:45 PM   #27 
                 - To "agree that we need to clarify the guidelines" buys right into . . .  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:51 PM   #30 
                    - How is saying "It is illegal to use waterboarding, etc...." allows it?  Armstead   Sep-22-06 01:03 PM   #33 
                       - The tunnel vision focus on definition also buys into their propaganda. . .  pat_k   Sep-22-06 01:18 PM   #35 
                          - That's an easy one...  Armstead   Sep-22-06 04:26 PM   #41 
                             - What part of your list . . .  pat_k   Sep-22-06 09:29 PM   #42 
                                - There are, unfortunately, grey areas in all of this  Armstead   Sep-23-06 09:26 AM   #43 
  - Maybe they should move away  Nite Owl   Sep-22-06 11:59 AM   #7 
  - Good idea  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:01 PM   #8 
  - American Values  Nite Owl   Sep-22-06 12:13 PM   #12 
     - Okay protecting Your Freedom  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:19 PM   #16 
  - I second this good idea. nt  wiggs   Sep-22-06 12:22 PM   #18 
     - A week or two ago  Nite Owl   Sep-22-06 12:34 PM   #23 
  - I, for one, welcome the codification of Torture by Congress  Jacobin   Sep-22-06 12:17 PM   #15 
  - Democrats have been accused of coddling the criminals  BeFree   Sep-22-06 12:20 PM   #17 
  - The GOP currently has the keys  Armstead   Sep-22-06 12:28 PM   #20 
     - You really think  BeFree   Sep-22-06 01:35 PM   #37 
        - The truth has already been put out there  Armstead   Sep-23-06 09:34 AM   #44 
        - Every Republican in Congress is willing to "look away"  annabanana   Sep-23-06 09:38 AM   #45 
  - There's only one real, moral alternative to this POS legislation  MadHound   Sep-22-06 12:30 PM   #21 
     - Hear, Hear! "Fiat justitia, ruat coelum"  pat_k   Sep-22-06 12:53 PM   #31 
     - I'm not suggesting kinder gentler torture  Armstead   Sep-23-06 09:38 AM   #46 

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