Jacobin
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Fri Sep-22-06 12:17 PM
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| 15. I, for one, welcome the codification of Torture by Congress |
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Now, there can be no doubt EXACTLY who and what this nation is. There can be no quibbling. There can be no debate. We can't temporize about it.
The democratic party will finally be seen for what it truly is: I ruse, smoke and mirrors to pretend that we have a two party government.
The world can openly condemn us and we will have absolutely no defense for it.
Let's just crank it up this one final notch and declare the United States formally dead. The stink from the gangrene from the rotting limbs was getting to be too much anyway. Just bury the motherfucker.
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| -Okay, here's what I'd suggest Congress Democrats do on the torture bill |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 11:32 AM |
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Sounds reasonable Armstead... |
kentuck |
Sep-22-06 11:37 AM |
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Whatever it takes.... |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 11:39 AM |
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That's a sellout scenario |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 11:47 AM |
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Deal with that in January |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 11:52 AM |
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So |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 12:11 PM |
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I'd prefer actually stopping it than just being symbolic |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:16 PM |
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The CIA shut the program down. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-22-06 12:34 PM |
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Yeah, right |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 12:50 PM |
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Its hard to tell fact from fiction |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-22-06 12:57 PM |
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Participating in torture.... |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 01:15 PM |
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A hearing in democratic controlled congress. |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-22-06 01:22 PM |
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I will vote |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 01:38 PM |
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We need to stop the legislation, absolutely. |
Jim4Wes |
Sep-22-06 01:53 PM |
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Whatever it takes....Thanks, Jim |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 02:10 PM |
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FAR bigger risk to be hypocritical wimps. That risk is a given. |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:13 PM |
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Please re-read my original post |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:23 PM |
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Your proposal to "extend" and deal with when they safely have |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:30 PM |
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Um, did I say deny the truth? |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:36 PM |
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Seeking to kill it all together is the only way to "deal with it head on". |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:45 PM |
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No extentions; No holds. JUST SAY NO to the War Criminals Protections Act |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 11:48 AM |
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Yes, but this isn't the time to give Rove ammo |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 11:55 AM |
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Silence for fear of what "they" might do is appeasement, pure and simple. |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:04 PM |
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I don';t disagree with you in principle |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:12 PM |
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But your suggested approach does not deal with it "head on". . . |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:37 PM |
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No it counteracts that propaganda |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:45 PM |
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To "agree that we need to clarify the guidelines" buys right into . . . |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:51 PM |
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How is saying "It is illegal to use waterboarding, etc...." allows it? |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 01:03 PM |
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The tunnel vision focus on definition also buys into their propaganda. . . |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 01:18 PM |
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That's an easy one... |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 04:26 PM |
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What part of your list . . . |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 09:29 PM |
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There are, unfortunately, grey areas in all of this |
Armstead |
Sep-23-06 09:26 AM |
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Maybe they should move away |
Nite Owl |
Sep-22-06 11:59 AM |
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Good idea |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:01 PM |
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American Values |
Nite Owl |
Sep-22-06 12:13 PM |
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Okay protecting Your Freedom |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:19 PM |
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I second this good idea. nt |
wiggs |
Sep-22-06 12:22 PM |
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A week or two ago |
Nite Owl |
Sep-22-06 12:34 PM |
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I, for one, welcome the codification of Torture by Congress |
Jacobin |
Sep-22-06 12:17 PM |
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Democrats have been accused of coddling the criminals |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 12:20 PM |
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The GOP currently has the keys |
Armstead |
Sep-22-06 12:28 PM |
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You really think |
BeFree |
Sep-22-06 01:35 PM |
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The truth has already been put out there |
Armstead |
Sep-23-06 09:34 AM |
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Every Republican in Congress is willing to "look away" |
annabanana |
Sep-23-06 09:38 AM |
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There's only one real, moral alternative to this POS legislation |
MadHound |
Sep-22-06 12:30 PM |
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Hear, Hear! "Fiat justitia, ruat coelum" |
pat_k |
Sep-22-06 12:53 PM |
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I'm not suggesting kinder gentler torture |
Armstead |
Sep-23-06 09:38 AM |
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