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poor guys.. with 100K jobs in their future.
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| -I am offended when someone calls $80,000/year poor |
Nikia |
Sep-16-06 10:41 AM |
#0 |
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No argument here and I think you stated it well. |
Cerridwen |
Sep-16-06 10:45 AM |
#1 |
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I live on $7236 a year, $80,000 would be fabulously wealthy to me |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 03:25 PM |
#91 |
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i know many, many people with situations similar to yours |
datasuspect |
Sep-16-06 04:26 PM |
#102 |
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Thanks For Noticing. We are Mainly Ignored |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 06:44 PM |
#118 |
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And you are not alone... |
Iowa |
Sep-16-06 10:00 PM |
#145 |
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13.91% makes my belly feel full |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 10:04 PM |
#146 |
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I Have A Somalian Friend |
mntleo2 |
Sep-17-06 12:03 AM |
#164 |
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I agree... |
Iowa |
Sep-17-06 12:09 AM |
#166 |
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we live on $14K/year |
kineneb |
Sep-16-06 10:09 PM |
#149 |
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Yeah Sis, I hear you loud and clear from where I sit |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 10:38 PM |
#153 |
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Very well put, Nikia. |
zanne |
Sep-16-06 10:48 AM |
#2 |
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Recommended. |
Cobalt Violet |
Sep-16-06 10:49 AM |
#3 |
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People with children making $80,000 generally don't belong |
Warpy |
Sep-16-06 10:50 AM |
#4 |
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Some of them have those choices and make those choices |
Nikia |
Sep-16-06 11:05 AM |
#17 |
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Try reading the last paragraph,for starters |
Warpy |
Sep-16-06 11:15 AM |
#21 |
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I don't buy whatever you are selling |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 03:09 PM |
#86 |
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as for your "another story" remember that will always fall on deaf ears |
RGBolen |
Sep-16-06 09:58 PM |
#143 |
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$80,000 a year is not rich, especially in some parts of the country |
orangepeel68 |
Sep-16-06 02:23 PM |
#70 |
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A family of 4 or 5 will pay over $1,000 a month for health insurance alone |
OzarkDem |
Sep-16-06 02:59 PM |
#85 |
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that is not true, at all |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 03:28 PM |
#92 |
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I pay $500 a month for my portion of healthcare |
bleedingheart |
Sep-16-06 04:27 PM |
#103 |
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ouch. Showing that I have a very good employer |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 05:41 PM |
#112 |
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Right, that's realistic |
OzarkDem |
Sep-16-06 09:59 PM |
#144 |
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Not everyone has employer paid health care costs |
OzarkDem |
Sep-16-06 09:58 PM |
#142 |
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not everyone doesn't |
hfojvt |
Sep-17-06 03:06 AM |
#187 |
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I pay $600 a month |
Horse with no Name |
Sep-16-06 10:06 PM |
# |
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I think I understand what you're trying to say here... |
Iowa |
Sep-16-06 08:52 PM |
#136 |
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Huh? |
girl gone mad |
Sep-17-06 02:56 AM |
#186 |
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Nope, no internet bubble type investments... |
Iowa |
Sep-17-06 04:58 AM |
#191 |
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I'm curious.. |
sendero |
Sep-16-06 10:51 AM |
#5 |
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I didn't, if OP refers to me. |
skids |
Sep-16-06 03:11 PM |
#89 |
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I find it offensive when somebody says $80000 is even middle class |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 03:37 PM |
#93 |
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I think a family living on $80,000 |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-16-06 04:44 PM |
#108 |
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And one sick child will wipe them out. |
aquart |
Sep-16-06 05:45 PM |
#113 |
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well, I would like to see qunitles broken out for urban areas |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 06:03 PM |
#116 |
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Of course... |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-17-06 12:34 AM |
#169 |
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Then we'll have to agree... |
skids |
Sep-16-06 05:35 PM |
#111 |
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CPI is not relevant here (not that I have those numbers) |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 06:32 PM |
#117 |
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Class status does not follow the people. |
skids |
Sep-17-06 02:20 AM |
#182 |
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according to that link from wiki |
hfojvt |
Sep-17-06 03:41 AM |
#190 |
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does anyone actually say that? |
anarch |
Sep-16-06 10:51 AM |
#6 |
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Anyone who thinks that should |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-16-06 10:55 AM |
#9 |
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Yep a dim wit called Judy Barr Topinka |
Monkeyman |
Sep-16-06 10:55 AM |
#11 |
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for me, this begs the question, what the hell was her point? |
anarch |
Sep-16-06 11:02 AM |
#14 |
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BRAVO, Nikia,... |
Parisle |
Sep-16-06 10:53 AM |
#7 |
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I am offended too |
CountAllVotes |
Sep-16-06 10:54 AM |
#8 |
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There are many jobs and careers that don't command high salaries |
Nikia |
Sep-16-06 11:18 AM |
#23 |
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Who said $80K per year is "poor"? |
ReverendDeuce |
Sep-16-06 10:55 AM |
#10 |
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Very well said and so true |
HeeBGBz |
Sep-16-06 10:59 AM |
#12 |
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i understand your frustration |
buddhamama |
Sep-16-06 11:00 AM |
#13 |
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A few years ago, there was an article in the NYT Magazine |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-16-06 11:15 AM |
#20 |
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well, i can't argue with you... |
buddhamama |
Sep-16-06 11:20 AM |
#24 |
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No, it's not rich, but it's not poor, either |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-16-06 11:24 AM |
#26 |
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i know what poor is |
buddhamama |
Sep-16-06 11:29 AM |
#30 |
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Sorry, buddhamama, I wasn't trying to lecture you |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-16-06 12:02 PM |
#34 |
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forgive me |
buddhamama |
Sep-16-06 12:05 PM |
#35 |
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No problem! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-16-06 12:13 PM |
#36 |
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why isn't it rich? |
hfojvt |
Sep-16-06 04:06 PM |
#100 |
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read the post |
buddhamama |
Sep-16-06 05:07 PM |
#109 |
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My father |
petersond |
Sep-16-06 04:32 PM |
#104 |
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Well said. I, myself, cannot say I have ever been,... |
Ferretherder |
Sep-16-06 11:05 AM |
#15 |
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I am infuriated! |
acmejack |
Sep-16-06 11:05 AM |
#16 |
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ditto!!! |
Swamp Rat |
Sep-16-06 03:09 PM |
#87 |
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There are those who consider it rich who are wrong as well... |
Finder |
Sep-16-06 11:12 AM |
#18 |
| -
bingo |
ComerPerro |
Sep-16-06 12:54 PM |
#41 |
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Thank you |
never_get_over_it |
Sep-16-06 02:12 PM |
#62 |
| -
Bless your heart |
lukasahero |
Sep-16-06 02:56 PM |
#83 |
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True. But they need to stop voting Republican. |
thecatburgler |
Sep-16-06 07:41 PM |
#129 |
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True enough |
never_get_over_it |
Sep-17-06 12:53 AM |
#172 |
| -
Bingo. |
blossomstar |
Sep-16-06 11:18 PM |
#158 |
| -
I come from the "working poor" |
deutsey |
Sep-16-06 11:14 AM |
#19 |
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I know many, many people |
mongo |
Sep-16-06 11:15 AM |
#22 |
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And I know many who consider that "poor" |
Patiod |
Sep-16-06 01:01 PM |
#45 |
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Depends on where you live, and how many people |
Jed Dilligan |
Sep-16-06 11:24 AM |
#25 |
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Anyone who calls 80K/year 'poor' is a moron. Period. |
Union Thug |
Sep-16-06 11:25 AM |
#27 |
| -
In Alaska |
DenaliDemocrat |
Sep-16-06 11:25 AM |
#28 |
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But the comment came from an Illinois candidate for governor |
Bucky |
Sep-16-06 12:34 PM |
#39 |
| -
Cost of living in Illinois could be quite high end. |
Tigress DEM |
Sep-16-06 01:54 PM |
#52 |
| -
With the tax structure in this country a person GROSSING!! |
bigdarryl |
Sep-16-06 11:27 AM |
#29 |
| -
The trick is to actually work |
InkAddict |
Sep-16-06 11:33 AM |
#31 |
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One dimension that must be considered is whether that is 2 incomes or 1 |
lostnfound |
Sep-16-06 11:34 AM |
#32 |
| -
Me Too Nikia! |
mntleo2 |
Sep-16-06 11:47 AM |
#33 |
| -
As others have already asked: Who's saying $80K/year is poor? |
tuvor |
Sep-16-06 12:30 PM |
#37 |
| -
The Damn Pope Said That!!!! |
genie_weenie |
Sep-16-06 12:31 PM |
#38 |
| -
The Pope said that? |
fortyfeetunder |
Sep-16-06 01:14 PM |
#48 |
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You guys aren't taking into account the Cost of Living in Rome. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-16-06 11:38 PM |
#162 |
| -
My wife and I combined |
shadowknows69 |
Sep-16-06 12:52 PM |
#40 |
| -
Well written, and thank you!! All this moaning from those who |
bobbolink |
Sep-16-06 12:55 PM |
#42 |
| -
gads, even 40k/year isn't poor! |
ananda |
Sep-16-06 12:55 PM |
#43 |
| -
So who called a $80K income poor? |
MUSTANG_2004 |
Sep-16-06 12:59 PM |
#44 |
| -
That was my question. |
donco6 |
Sep-16-06 01:55 PM |
#54 |
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I agree. $80,000 a year is enough to make ends meet for a |
Cleita |
Sep-16-06 01:04 PM |
#46 |
| -
Not True. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 01:57 PM |
#56 |
| -
Wow, calling me a liar are you? |
Cleita |
Sep-16-06 02:08 PM |
#61 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-16-06 02:14 PM |
#65 |
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Yup, that's his M.O. |
bobbolink |
Sep-16-06 03:43 PM |
#94 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-16-06 03:56 PM |
#98 |
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What Are You Talking About? Please Elaborate. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 07:29 PM |
#123 |
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I am poor now but I think that when compared to Billionaires they |
jwirr |
Sep-16-06 01:11 PM |
#47 |
| -
"In Context" would be helpful. $80,000 can be called "working class poor |
Tigress DEM |
Sep-16-06 01:16 PM |
#49 |
| -
Yeah, I've heard people here on DU complaining that 100K |
TheGoldenRule |
Sep-16-06 01:37 PM |
#50 |
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Excuse You, But We Bring In Over 100,000 And We're Still Struggling. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 01:51 PM |
#51 |
| -
you don't need to take it so personally |
mark414 |
Sep-16-06 01:55 PM |
#55 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-16-06 02:03 PM |
#59 |
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My Reply Wasn't Limited To Being Personal. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 07:37 PM |
#126 |
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I can see with your mortgage and child care where you would |
Cleita |
Sep-16-06 02:13 PM |
#64 |
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Ok, You Don't Have To Answer My Post Above Then. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 02:19 PM |
#67 |
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Keep your house even though it's a trial right now. |
Cleita |
Sep-16-06 02:25 PM |
#72 |
| -
used to live in chicago |
datasuspect |
Sep-16-06 02:47 PM |
#78 |
| -
Well Thankfully We Got The House Right Before The Boom. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 02:49 PM |
#80 |
| -
30 miles or so from NYC? |
datasuspect |
Sep-16-06 02:51 PM |
#81 |
| -
You're Right. We Can't Go More East At All. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 02:55 PM |
#82 |
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That's a $1200 mortgage - not $1800 |
sandnsea |
Sep-16-06 03:10 PM |
#88 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-16-06 03:20 PM |
#90 |
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Of course |
sandnsea |
Sep-16-06 03:57 PM |
#99 |
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A $183,00 = annual local tax of $4812/year |
rainbow4321 |
Sep-16-06 04:44 PM |
#107 |
| -
And taxes in Hopatcong |
sandnsea |
Sep-16-06 05:09 PM |
#110 |
| -
You Have No Idea What You're Talking About When It Comes To MY Mortgage. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 07:23 PM |
#120 |
| -
Don't Tell Me What My Own Mortgage Is Nor Assume You Have Any Idea |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 07:34 PM |
#124 |
| -
OMC! Dude, Cool off before you pop an artery! |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 07:49 PM |
#132 |
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You're Right Bro. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 08:15 PM |
#133 |
| -
Here Ya Go. Now You Can Give Me An Apology. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 08:42 PM |
#135 |
| -
That's just crazy! |
calmblueocean |
Sep-17-06 02:13 AM |
#181 |
| -
My Wife And I Ask That All The Time. How The Hell Do They Do It? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-17-06 02:36 AM |
#184 |
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I didn't see this post with figures before I posted on the other...n/t |
Finder |
Sep-16-06 04:23 PM |
#101 |
| -
Oh Ok, Fair Enough. :o) |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 07:25 PM |
#121 |
| -
So who said this? |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-16-06 01:55 PM |
#53 |
| -
Less than $3,000,000 + house is NOT upper middle class. $80K is upper is |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 12:07 AM |
#165 |
| -
It depends |
Herman Munster |
Sep-16-06 01:59 PM |
# |
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A family with $80K is gloriously comfortable. |
SmokingJacket |
Sep-16-06 01:59 PM |
#57 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-16-06 02:07 PM |
#60 |
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You are dead on. As I said in my previous post, there is NO WAY... |
Union Thug |
Sep-16-06 02:21 PM |
#68 |
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Who the hell thinks $80k a year is poor?? |
CarlVK |
Sep-16-06 02:00 PM |
#58 |
| -
where do you live? |
Herman Munster |
Sep-16-06 02:12 PM |
#63 |
| -
Ah, so you're saying "lower mid class" in some areas. That's different |
CarlVK |
Sep-16-06 02:46 PM |
#77 |
| -
Even the Average American Earning Half That |
Jcrowley |
Sep-16-06 02:15 PM |
#66 |
| -
The middle class... |
skids |
Sep-16-06 05:50 PM |
#114 |
| -
It's a very bad idea |
Jcrowley |
Sep-16-06 09:18 PM |
#138 |
| -
Let me get this straight. |
skids |
Sep-17-06 02:27 AM |
#183 |
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Do you think $40,000 a year is "lower class with delusions of lucor"? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 12:40 AM |
#170 |
| -
No, that's not what I said. |
skids |
Sep-17-06 02:12 AM |
#180 |
| -
I'm with You (nt) |
stepnw1f |
Sep-16-06 02:23 PM |
#69 |
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Add my name to the list of people asking who said $80k/year was poor. |
Marr |
Sep-16-06 02:24 PM |
#71 |
| -
Judy Barr Topinka n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 12:47 AM |
#171 |
| -
stop ignoring the post by asking "who says that?!?!" and start talking |
mark414 |
Sep-16-06 02:27 PM |
#73 |
| -
Because if it's not happening, it's sort of dumb to get outraged |
Marr |
Sep-16-06 02:34 PM |
#75 |
| -
I am offended when someone says squids teach algebra. |
Marr |
Sep-16-06 02:33 PM |
#74 |
| -
Salary calculator (compares cities/states) |
rainbow4321 |
Sep-16-06 02:39 PM |
#76 |
| -
excellent resource---thanks eom |
deek |
Sep-16-06 02:57 PM |
#84 |
| -
In some circles, you are poor at 80,000, but "poor" is relative |
Selatius |
Sep-16-06 02:48 PM |
#79 |
| -
I don't see how anyone can make it on $80k |
AngryAmish |
Sep-16-06 03:45 PM |
#95 |
| -
mine is 12,000 per month |
datasuspect |
Sep-16-06 03:47 PM |
#96 |
| -
they do! |
AngryAmish |
Sep-16-06 03:50 PM |
#97 |
| -
This is why we Democrats have problems...the peasants fight amongst |
bleedingheart |
Sep-16-06 04:34 PM |
#105 |
| -
Okay. |
LWolf |
Sep-16-06 04:37 PM |
#106 |
| -
Apparently not. But suggesting so makes for great flame wars. |
tuvor |
Sep-16-06 06:01 PM |
#115 |
| -
Judy Barr Topinka, and many other political figures |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 12:57 AM |
# |
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Yes. But I'm also offended when $80,000 per year for a couple means debt- |
1932 |
Sep-16-06 06:48 PM |
#119 |
| -
Hear! Hear! |
Prag |
Sep-16-06 07:36 PM |
#125 |
| -
Exactly right. |
1932 |
Sep-16-06 11:24 PM |
#159 |
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What infuriates me is when these people that make 80K vote Republican |
AllieB |
Sep-16-06 07:43 PM |
#130 |
| -
That's the democrats' fault for not making the obvious arguments to |
1932 |
Sep-16-06 10:49 PM |
#156 |
| -
No opportunities for what? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 01:04 AM |
#176 |
| -
Please provide a reference, otherwise this is just a straw man |
BlueEyedSon |
Sep-16-06 07:29 PM |
#122 |
| -
Thanks for sounding the Strawman Klaxon BlueEyedSon. |
Prag |
Sep-16-06 07:38 PM |
#128 |
| -
Hardly a klaxon, just a question |
BlueEyedSon |
Sep-16-06 07:47 PM |
#131 |
| -
Judy Barr Topinka |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 01:09 AM |
#177 |
| -
Thank you |
thecatburgler |
Sep-16-06 07:37 PM |
#127 |
| -
The phrase 'poor graduate student' sends me off the deep end |
Gormy Cuss |
Sep-16-06 09:05 PM |
#137 |
| -
Yeah, no kidding... |
COSPRINGS |
Sep-16-06 09:54 PM |
#141 |
| -
Uh, what field would that be in? |
alittlelark |
Sep-16-06 10:04 PM |
#147 |
| -
Engineering... |
trekbiker |
Sep-17-06 02:38 AM |
#185 |
| -
Not to mention that the truly poor will never be able to get a |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 01:15 AM |
#178 |
| -
I make 80k and I'm not poor but I'm not living large either |
nini |
Sep-16-06 08:31 PM |
#134 |
| -
Nikia, I am with you |
Jim Warren |
Sep-16-06 09:46 PM |
#139 |
| -
This is the STUPIDEST 'some people say' thread I've seen in a long time |
Husb2Sparkly |
Sep-16-06 09:46 PM |
#140 |
| -
"Some People Say" Shades of Faux News |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 10:11 PM |
#150 |
| -
huh? |
Husb2Sparkly |
Sep-16-06 10:20 PM |
#151 |
| -
It really doesn't matter who said it ( or really if it was ever said ) |
Wiley50 |
Sep-16-06 11:47 PM |
#163 |
| -
Answer: Numerous political activists have said this, especially in DC |
Leopolds Ghost |
Sep-17-06 12:25 AM |
#167 |
| -
Amen, Nikia!!! Anyone who makes $80k a year is |
ikojo |
Sep-16-06 10:06 PM |
#148 |
| -
I don't recall anyone saying $80000 a year is poor |
doc03 |
Sep-16-06 10:35 PM |
#152 |
| -
Who said that? |
lectrobyte |
Sep-16-06 10:41 PM |
#154 |
| -
Who told you that $80K a year was poor? |
bleedingheart |
Sep-16-06 10:48 PM |
#155 |
| -
80K aint that much in New York.... |
Singular73 |
Sep-16-06 10:53 PM |
#157 |
| -
Well Said. n/t |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Sep-16-06 11:25 PM |
#160 |
| -
Or Los Angeles |
Nikki Stone 1 |
Sep-17-06 12:57 AM |
#175 |
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I live in the Keys. My husband and I combined make close to 80. |
tinfoilinfor2005 |
Sep-16-06 11:35 PM |
#161 |
| -
I actually know someone who |
greccogirl |
Sep-17-06 12:30 AM |
#168 |
| -
For two years |
hyphenate |
Sep-17-06 12:55 AM |
#173 |
| -
$80,000/yr is poor compared to $150,000/hr |
rman |
Sep-17-06 12:56 AM |
#174 |
| -
True, however-- |
eridani |
Sep-17-06 01:57 AM |
#179 |
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Considering that the MEDIAN household income is only $43k or so, |
entanglement |
Sep-17-06 03:22 AM |
#188 |
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We are ALL working class bros & sis.... |
GreenTea |
Sep-17-06 03:38 AM |
#189 |
| -
Locking |
petersond |
Sep-17-06 06:53 AM |
#192 |
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