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Mon Jan-23-06 11:24 AM
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| 59. But Europe *isn't* backing our military posturing. |
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What they're doing is pushing forward on the diplomatic efforts. Like with Iraq, they do not want war. And as of today, war is wholly unjustified, as Iran is many years away from having a bomb.
Further, re: the oil bourse, of course it won't destroy the U.S. economy, but instead would trigger a timely U.S. recession that, in turn, would very much hurt the Republican Party in November. And this would cause long-term damage to the aims of PNAC. On top of that, consider how high the price of oil will go with Iran unable to export its oil. Bush's oil industry buddies will *really* like that scenario.
Therefore, for its own political survival, PNAC will push for Iran to be attacked. And Bush has his own reasons: help to his favored oil industry and paving the way to Republicans maintaining control of Congress, so more of his regressive legislation can be passed.
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| -If Iran War about euro bourse, why is Europe backing us? |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 08:27 AM |
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Because that theory is incorrect. |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 08:35 AM |
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So which "theory" is correct? nt |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-23-06 08:57 AM |
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It's A Lot Simpler Than This Convoluted Nonsense |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-23-06 09:04 AM |
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So the theory that they guys in charge are going to invade Iran |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-23-06 09:17 AM |
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Double Edged Question |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-23-06 09:24 AM |
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LMFAO!!! thx! nt |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-23-06 10:19 AM |
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ProfessorGAC |
davekriss |
Jan-23-06 09:45 AM |
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Please explain why we changed heads of gov't in Panama and |
FloridaPat |
Jan-23-06 09:55 AM |
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The Data Itself, Refute The Concern |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-23-06 10:07 AM |
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If geniuses like Wolfie, Perle, and Kristol believe it, i'm sure its wrong |
BlueEyedSon |
Jan-23-06 10:23 AM |
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I Do Hope You Understand |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-23-06 10:32 AM |
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My feeble understanding..... |
rustydad |
Jan-23-06 10:35 AM |
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Read The Part Of One Of My Replies. . . |
ProfessorGAC |
Jan-23-06 11:04 AM |
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Good question. |
Burning Water |
Jan-23-06 08:35 AM |
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It is |
Marie26 |
Jan-23-06 09:16 AM |
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It's another of the culmination of events, one world market, one world |
lonestarnot |
Jan-24-06 04:03 AM |
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Interesting question........ |
AGENDA21 |
Jan-23-06 08:37 AM |
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That's a softball question. |
Birthmark |
Jan-23-06 08:39 AM |
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That's a bit extreme. |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 08:43 AM |
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No not because Iran gets paid in Euros... |
Birthmark |
Jan-23-06 08:50 AM |
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I agree to a point, but not the end result |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 08:59 AM |
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So demand would have no effect on the dollar's worth? |
Birthmark |
Jan-23-06 09:03 AM |
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I didn't say that. |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 09:14 AM |
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If we print fewer dollars... |
Birthmark |
Jan-23-06 09:20 AM |
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Nothing |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 09:48 AM |
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actually, as nations build reserves in Euros, they'd quit buyng US T-bills |
HereSince1628 |
Jan-23-06 09:44 AM |
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The Great Depression didn't just affect the US... |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Jan-23-06 09:02 AM |
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which is why other countries would be unlikely to attack us. |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 09:15 AM |
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I Used To Think This, Until I Read 'Guns Of August' And Sir John Keegans |
loindelrio |
Jan-23-06 09:30 AM |
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and we've got it--at least the Bushies do |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 10:10 AM |
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They all have interests in the Middle East. |
yibbehobba |
Jan-23-06 08:44 AM |
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Pakistan has the bomb already and an unstable gov. |
savemefromdumbya |
Jan-23-06 10:33 AM |
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Big difference between Iran & Pakistan..... |
BigYawn |
Jan-24-06 01:34 AM |
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"handful of nukes that would never be a threat to us" |
enigma000 |
Jan-23-06 08:46 AM |
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"Never" is too big a word |
Birthmark |
Jan-23-06 08:51 AM |
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and a reason to deliver and a possibility of surviving counter-attack... |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 09:00 AM |
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Do you think a nation would commit suicide? We have 10,000 warheads |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 08:58 AM |
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Iran's nukes aren't a threat to us, period. Too far away. |
Zynx |
Jan-23-06 10:37 AM |
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If Iran attacks Israel with nukes, Israel will surely retaliate with nukes |
BigYawn |
Jan-24-06 01:36 AM |
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Europe is concerned about Iran developing nuclear weapons |
meganmonkey |
Jan-23-06 08:58 AM |
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given the likely course of US and Israeli action, it's hard to see long |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 09:11 AM |
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Exactly. Right now, on the surface, |
meganmonkey |
Jan-23-06 09:17 AM |
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Nobody wants Iran to have the bomb, but the EU-3 are only going to |
leveymg |
Jan-23-06 09:18 AM |
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I hope you are right, that it is all a bluff |
meganmonkey |
Jan-23-06 09:21 AM |
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Iraq displayed our real weakness: we can't win through airpower |
leveymg |
Jan-23-06 09:36 AM |
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that is the trump card Iran has if we attack, they could saboutage |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 10:12 AM |
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and if it's the Bourse, of course- then why is Iran going nuclear NOW? |
QuestionAll |
Jan-23-06 09:02 AM |
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I would agree. |
Heewack |
Jan-23-06 09:05 AM |
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it all seems like part of a bizarre script... |
QuestionAll |
Jan-23-06 09:23 AM |
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Look what happened to Iraq when Saddam switched to the Euro |
meganmonkey |
Jan-23-06 09:05 AM |
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um....No. |
QuestionAll |
Jan-23-06 09:21 AM |
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It seems to me |
meganmonkey |
Jan-23-06 09:30 AM |
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but it's a stupid time for that kind of posturing- |
QuestionAll |
Jan-23-06 09:38 AM |
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Iran's biggest friends are the Russians and the Chinese. By... |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-23-06 11:03 AM |
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Some further thoughts.....what ifs..... |
Dover |
Jan-24-06 12:47 AM |
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and it that happens, they will also instantly become the big bad |
okieinpain |
Jan-24-06 01:10 AM |
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"something more " - Maybe this? |
LunaC |
Jan-24-06 03:45 AM |
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my guess is they would like nukes for the same reason all countries want |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 09:10 AM |
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they can't wait 6 months...? |
QuestionAll |
Jan-23-06 09:13 AM |
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One interesting Fail Safe is the Russian and Columbian and |
WCGreen |
Jan-23-06 09:22 AM |
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Good point |
leveymg |
Jan-23-06 09:49 AM |
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good point--the drug dealers and mafia will save us |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 10:13 AM |
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I didn't say that. |
leveymg |
Jan-23-06 10:17 AM |
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They won't save us.... |
WCGreen |
Jan-23-06 12:04 PM |
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I meant it ironically |
yurbud |
Jan-23-06 05:55 PM |
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No one wants a disruption in the oil supply. They could be paying |
FloridaPat |
Jan-23-06 09:51 AM |
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If we attack, there would be multiple forces pushing the Dollar down: |
leveymg |
Jan-23-06 10:24 AM |
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But Europe *isn't* backing our military posturing. |
stevietheman |
Jan-23-06 11:24 AM |
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The Euros are afraid of Russian and Chinese influence in Iran. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-23-06 11:45 AM |
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Please stop viewing Europe as a single country |
Stockholm |
Jan-24-06 03:51 AM |
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