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Sat Sep-16-06 02:48 PM
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| 121. Well, of course - Ratzinger is a religious bigot. |
| -Muslim anger grows over pope’s remarks |
Fountain79 |
Sep-15-06 06:16 AM |
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IMO, this is the equivalent of the Pope saying "Bring'em on!" n/t |
no_hypocrisy |
Sep-15-06 06:22 AM |
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Hardly..... |
Fountain79 |
Sep-15-06 06:27 AM |
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Please remind me, |
Xipe Totec |
Sep-15-06 06:45 AM |
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Bingo. |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 06:50 AM |
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The crusades were not fought to annihilate islam. |
patcox2 |
Sep-15-06 01:14 PM |
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If you truly believe that the Crusaders did not believe it was their holy |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 01:50 PM |
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I suppose that explains... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Sep-16-06 04:15 PM |
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The Muslims were as guilty as the Christians |
tenshi816 |
Sep-15-06 07:42 AM |
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And the Christians are as guilty as the Muslims. |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:11 AM |
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Yes, they're as bad as each other, definitely. |
tenshi816 |
Sep-15-06 08:47 AM |
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does his view have anything to do with the fact he is Catholic??? |
bobbieinok |
Sep-15-06 11:03 PM |
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The Crusades were an answer to Muslim incursion into Europe |
cigsandcoffee |
Sep-15-06 07:46 AM |
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Ridiculous! You claim this spurred the 1st Crusade 200 years later!? |
Bonobo |
Sep-15-06 08:52 AM |
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No just 24 years earlier, the battle of Mazikert. in 1071 |
happyslug |
Sep-15-06 09:54 AM |
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Thank you... Will study when I can. ;) |
Bonobo |
Sep-15-06 10:01 AM |
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What you leave out is that the first crusade was basically ordered |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 10:35 AM |
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You ignoring some other history, as who were the majority in Palestine |
happyslug |
Sep-15-06 01:12 PM |
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Its wonderful to see real facts and analysis brought to this. |
patcox2 |
Sep-15-06 01:18 PM |
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It has nothing to do with anti-catholic bias, but rather with facts |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 01:46 PM |
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Catholics did not massacre muslims in their own lands. |
patcox2 |
Sep-15-06 02:52 PM |
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Self-hatred? I don't think so. You know nothing about me or who |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 03:03 PM |
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Unless you aren't Christian, how |
mmonk |
Sep-16-06 07:21 AM |
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Definitely not a Christian. |
ET Awful |
Sep-16-06 11:08 AM |
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And your tree? |
mmonk |
Sep-16-06 11:11 PM |
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To ignore Egypt when it comes to Palestine is to ignore 5000 yr of History |
happyslug |
Sep-15-06 09:37 PM |
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Remind me...how long ago was that? n/t |
Fountain79 |
Sep-15-06 07:26 PM |
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Not quite that cut and dried... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Sep-16-06 04:13 PM |
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There does seem to be some kind of unwritten rule about that. |
cigsandcoffee |
Sep-15-06 07:50 AM |
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Considering the current political situation it makes sense |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:15 AM |
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I don't like the black/white double standard, either. |
cigsandcoffee |
Sep-15-06 08:36 AM |
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Never mind the many thousands of innocent people murdered whnever we get |
leesa |
Sep-15-06 10:22 PM |
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There is extremism on both sides on the past |
Craftsman |
Sep-15-06 08:15 AM |
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They have the US military carrying out their work for them. |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:21 AM |
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Bombs planted outside family planning clinics however are |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 08:43 AM |
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No but they are few and far between |
Craftsman |
Sep-15-06 09:00 AM |
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Mmmmhmmmm, your point? |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 10:25 AM |
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Just a couple of days ago... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-15-06 01:01 PM |
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I don't see Muslims doing that either, to be fair. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 09:08 AM |
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The problem is not that people don't criticize Islam, the problem is that |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 10:29 AM |
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Yes and no. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 06:10 PM |
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The muslims and rest of the world |
CJCRANE |
Sep-15-06 01:03 PM |
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I thought Hindu was the sacred cow... |
deaniac21 |
Sep-15-06 10:33 AM |
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Islam is not a sacred cow |
CJCRANE |
Sep-15-06 01:00 PM |
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A critique from the 14th century is valid today? |
Clark2008 |
Sep-15-06 08:18 AM |
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Der Popenfuhrer just called Islam evil. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-15-06 12:58 PM |
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no he didn't. n/t |
Henny Penny |
Sep-15-06 05:44 PM |
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No it isn't. The clown in a dress was quoting one of his ancient |
MADem |
Sep-15-06 07:32 AM |
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You're right, of course, but wouldn't you just |
tenshi816 |
Sep-15-06 08:06 AM |
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It would be worth seeing, for sure...and even more so if he wore |
MADem |
Sep-15-06 08:59 AM |
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Sunglasses would be good too, |
tenshi816 |
Sep-15-06 09:04 AM |
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"Clown in a dress." What does the Dalai Lama have to do with this? |
cigsandcoffee |
Sep-15-06 03:51 PM |
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The Dalai Lama doesn't wear a dress. He wears curtains. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-16-06 02:58 PM |
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I find all religious costumes goofy and manipulative |
MADem |
Sep-16-06 05:19 PM |
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you might like to reconsider your opinion! |
Henny Penny |
Sep-15-06 05:44 PM |
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Are the people being stirred up regular Muslims |
magellan |
Sep-15-06 06:27 AM |
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Exactly, what is it about one Muslim fanatic that gets Americans |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:16 AM |
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Organized religion - the #1 cause of bloodshed in the world |
Number9Dream |
Sep-15-06 06:43 AM |
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i guess the millions killed in pogroms in Soviet |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-15-06 08:16 AM |
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Sure they do. There was something religious about the Soviets |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:18 AM |
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Try "dogma." And take a look at this: |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 08:21 AM |
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The Soviets had control of the press, too. |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:32 AM |
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Communism WAS a religion |
doubleplusgood |
Sep-15-06 08:30 AM |
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ok...as long as people see that |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-15-06 08:37 AM |
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religion isn't the cause, more the means to war. . . |
Hamlette |
Sep-15-06 09:01 AM |
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I guess he forgot about his predecessors who suggested |
ET Awful |
Sep-15-06 06:45 AM |
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Even part of the same faith |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:33 AM |
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Well, Benedict ran the Spanish Inquisition |
dmesg |
Sep-15-06 03:33 PM |
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Oh really? How amazing! |
Ripley |
Sep-15-06 06:50 AM |
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How many burn embassies of muslim countries though? |
dmesg |
Sep-15-06 03:37 PM |
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What I want to knowis |
NC_Nurse |
Sep-15-06 07:16 AM |
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They have a long memory |
notmypresident |
Sep-15-06 07:22 AM |
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Because the history of Catholicism is all warm and fuzzy, right? |
philosophie_en_rose |
Sep-15-06 07:54 AM |
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It's not like we make any attempt to understand them |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:10 AM |
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They make no attempt to understand the West, either. |
Codeine |
Sep-15-06 10:08 PM |
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So, if a top Jewish cleric says Jesus brought the Inquisition |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 08:16 AM |
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There probably are some "Christians" who would bomb a |
treestar |
Sep-15-06 08:20 AM |
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Firebombings of Catholic churches will probably start |
geek tragedy |
Sep-15-06 08:17 AM |
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That's probably what Pope Ratzi wants. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 08:19 AM |
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Pope Ratzo is a rightwinger and is incredibly intolerant. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-15-06 08:23 AM |
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Well, the attacks on Christian Churches have already begun. |
geek tragedy |
Sep-16-06 12:25 PM |
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That's a holy man for you.... |
dogday |
Sep-15-06 08:21 AM |
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Double Standards |
Woolwich |
Sep-15-06 08:49 AM |
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he`s an old fool |
madrchsod |
Sep-15-06 08:51 AM |
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Islam should be ridiculed at every |
genie_weenie |
Sep-15-06 09:00 AM |
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Agreed. |
Taxloss |
Sep-15-06 01:10 PM |
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Well said! |
Codeine |
Sep-15-06 10:09 PM |
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*No Sacred Cows* sounds good and |
genie_weenie |
Sep-16-06 06:56 AM |
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Da pope has gone and pooped |
UTUSN |
Sep-15-06 09:04 AM |
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Wake up. Damage from Christian terrorism far exceeds that of Muslim. |
The Stranger |
Sep-15-06 09:08 AM |
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Excuse me? |
Taoschick |
Sep-15-06 11:25 PM |
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How about this? |
Hatalles |
Sep-15-06 11:32 PM |
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Are you unaware of the rampage called The Holy Inquisition? |
CarlVK |
Sep-16-06 04:00 PM |
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This guy just shows how great of a pope JPII was |
noonwitch |
Sep-15-06 09:27 AM |
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Yes, thank Goddess! |
deaniac21 |
Sep-15-06 10:37 AM |
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Anyone attacking the pope for this needs to read what he actually said |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 12:13 PM |
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Sorry. I'm too filled with the Zeal |
genie_weenie |
Sep-15-06 12:16 PM |
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Oh, but you SHOULD follow his suggestion! See below. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 01:02 PM |
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Thanks for the suggestion. I read what he actually said... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 01:01 PM |
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He certainly speaks out against violent conversion. |
Taxloss |
Sep-15-06 01:05 PM |
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My thoughts exactly. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 01:14 PM |
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Yes, because clearly the pope wants to offend Muslims pointlessly. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 05:42 PM |
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No, not pointlessly. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 06:04 PM |
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You'll need more than that to convince me of anything. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 06:15 PM |
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He clearly isn't agreeing with it. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 05:34 PM |
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RW is totally out of control. These fundies are out of control |
Xenotime |
Sep-15-06 12:54 PM |
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Yep, the only people |
CJCRANE |
Sep-15-06 01:15 PM |
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did they condemn Ahmadinejad ? |
JI7 |
Sep-15-06 03:07 PM |
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I, frankly, have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Sep-15-06 03:11 PM |
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This morning I read, "Anyone that accuses Islam of intolerance risks |
retread |
Sep-15-06 03:53 PM |
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Who said that? Somebody from the Taliban? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-15-06 06:07 PM |
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Thankfully, it's not true. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Sep-15-06 06:16 PM |
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Here's some words for you boys: "Gays. Birth Control. Science. Sexuality." |
impeachdubya |
Sep-15-06 04:42 PM |
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Nothing new |
FoxOnTheRun |
Sep-15-06 04:55 PM |
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the Pope's language is an incitement of more violent rhetoric |
Supersedeas |
Sep-15-06 05:04 PM |
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Is there something incorrect about what that emperor said? Was that NOT |
WinkyDink |
Sep-15-06 06:10 PM |
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Yeah Fountain79 I agree |
Cornerstone |
Sep-15-06 06:18 PM |
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Lots of bigots on this thread. |
leesa |
Sep-15-06 10:25 PM |
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lots of self-righteous prisspots, too. n/t |
QC |
Sep-15-06 10:50 PM |
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Apparently the Pope is one of them. |
CarlVK |
Sep-16-06 03:52 PM |
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Give me a break. Why would you excuse inciting Muslims at this time? |
CarlVK |
Sep-15-06 10:12 PM |
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Muslim anger grows over every damned thing! |
Codeine |
Sep-15-06 10:13 PM |
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Maybe because they are the ones getting blown up and murdered by the tens |
leesa |
Sep-15-06 10:24 PM |
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"Islam" is not the problem. Fanaticism is. |
CarlVK |
Sep-16-06 03:58 PM |
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The man isn't worthy of being a pope |
savemefromdumbya |
Sep-15-06 10:27 PM |
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Pope doesnt want war in name of religion.... |
lisainmilo |
Sep-15-06 10:40 PM |
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and how did Charlemagne convert the Saxons??? |
bobbieinok |
Sep-15-06 10:47 PM |
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I'm a little unsure what I think about this right now. |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-15-06 11:06 PM |
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I've read the text of his comments in full |
Dorian Gray |
Sep-16-06 03:48 PM |
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This is a reflection of the world we live in |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-16-06 12:30 PM |
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Well, of course - Ratzinger is a religious bigot. |
Zhade |
Sep-16-06 02:48 PM |
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Sep-16-06 03:53 PM |
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This is NOT an issue where the Catholic Church leaders' hands are clean. |
1932 |
Sep-16-06 11:23 PM |
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