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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #39
71. The reason religious home schooling of any kind should be dismissed
is that it primarily teaches religion, and does so at the expense of other more important things.

Its only a matter of time before these home schoolers start demanding their own test (every answer, BTW, is (d): God did it)

I'm not a big fan of catholic or Christian private schools, but at least we know they are teaching the basic subjects.

Religious home schools are often just as bad as Christian Universities (Diploma Mills) like Pat Robertson's school.
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  -Evangelicals intensify calls for parents to pull kids from public schools MikeNearMcChord  Sep-03-06 07:27 PM   #0 
  - Good.  tallahasseedem   Sep-03-06 07:30 PM   #1 
  - Only problem is  proud2Blib   Sep-03-06 07:34 PM   #2 
  - don't they still pay taxes anyway? So does it matter?  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 07:48 PM   #9 
     - Yes it matters  proud2Blib   Sep-03-06 07:52 PM   #11 
        - yeah, good point.  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 08:00 PM   #12 
        - So-called "progressives" are doing the same here  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 08:31 PM   #18 
        - sorry - but -  mzteris   Sep-03-06 08:54 PM   #24 
           - Yeah, it still sounds fair nt  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 08:57 PM   #26 
           - so you'll be doing all I suggested, then, eh?  mzteris   Sep-03-06 08:58 PM   #28 
              - For all you know, I'm doing it now  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 08:59 PM   #29 
                 - So ARE you?  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:02 PM   # 
                    - I believe firmly that my community's kids are my obligation  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:04 PM   #32 
                       - So you DON"T have kids. . .  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:10 PM   #34 
                       - Interesting how defensive you are about this  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:14 PM   #36 
                       - For what it's worth  Blue_In_AK   Sep-03-06 09:18 PM   #38 
                       - how does taking a learning disabled kid out of public school harm...  readmoreoften   Sep-03-06 09:24 PM   #42 
                       - Again, see post number 9  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:27 PM   #44 
                          - I don't see money as the main issue here  The Straight Story   Sep-03-06 09:52 PM   #54 
                          - Public schools have many expenses home schoolers and other schools  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:27 AM   #92 
                          - For a school to do what your local school did  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 01:54 PM   #143 
                             - Homeschooling aids in the movement toward privatization of education nt  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 03:21 PM   #171 
                          - You are being more than a little dense here  dsc   Sep-03-06 10:06 PM   #55 
                          - The fact is that most homeschooling parents aren't doing so  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 10:10 PM   #58 
                             - I am hardly advocating that  dsc   Sep-03-06 10:20 PM   #62 
                             - The poster I'm "berating" is, in fact, one of those  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 10:26 PM   #67 
                             - ld is learning disabled  dsc   Sep-03-06 10:44 PM   #75 
                             - The LD part WAS  mzteris   Sep-04-06 11:19 AM   #138 
                             - You don't fight NCLB by pulling your genius out of the public schools  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 03:02 PM   #162 
                             - Oh puhleeze.......  mzteris   Sep-04-06 11:17 AM   #137 
                             - 99% of the kids I know who have been pulled out of public schools  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:31 AM   #93 
                             - Yeah, I've seen that, too  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:39 PM   #149 
                             - "They're doing it because li'l Johnny is just too gosh darn smart..."  Zhade   Sep-04-06 01:04 AM   #102 
                          - So your saying... That the SCHOOL is more important  Spangle   Sep-03-06 10:12 PM   #60 
                             - That is the poorest example of writing I've read on DU  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 10:20 PM   #63 
                             - Your point being?  Spangle   Sep-03-06 10:38 PM   #73 
                             - zero?  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:42 AM   #95 
                             - My point was that, if this is what private education produces,  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:36 PM   #148 
                             - Your point was to insult the poster. You know very well that the  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:19 PM   #183 
                             - Whereas you're arguing that this person should be teaching  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 08:48 PM   #197 
                             - No, I'm not, and neither is the poster. The poster never said  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 09:11 PM   #202 
                             - Well, at least one PS teacher seemed to feel insulted  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 09:14 PM   #203 
                             - That is that teacher's problem.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 09:35 PM   #204 
                             - "Me, I can write well."  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:15 PM   #181 
                                - It's all thanks to a public education! nt  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 08:49 PM   #198 
                             - teachers get continuing education all the time  dsc   Sep-03-06 10:23 PM   #64 
                             - Wow, quite a public school  countingbluecars   Sep-03-06 10:44 PM   #76 
                             - Not ment to be  Spangle   Sep-03-06 11:10 PM   #78 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-04-06 02:59 PM   #161 
                             - You have a very poor understanding of school finances  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:40 AM   #94 
                             - "Education is a product [sic]" - that's where your argument falls apart.  Zhade   Sep-04-06 01:08 AM   #104 
                                - However, levels of success can be measured and should be  Solo_in_MD   Sep-04-06 01:15 AM   #107 
                                   - I don't disagree with that.  Zhade   Sep-04-06 05:10 PM   #178 
                       - I get defensive because hs'ers are continuously attacked  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:28 PM   #45 
                       - There are publicly funded educational opportunities for  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:33 PM   #48 
                       - How many have you fostered/adopted?  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:41 PM   #50 
                       - No, you should pull your little angels out, and let only poor kids  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:44 PM   #51 
                          - Are you being argumentative and rude for a reason  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:48 PM   #52 
                          - What about kids without your resources?  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:50 PM   #53 
                          - You still haven't explained  Spangle   Sep-03-06 10:43 PM   #74 
                          - Kids don't fall through the cracks when parents insist that their needs be  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:50 AM   #97 
                          - Way to tell the reader that they just haven't "fought hard enough"  readmoreoften   Sep-04-06 12:58 AM   #99 
                          - Well I would have gone to the police  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 01:17 AM   #108 
                          - My parents ALREADY moved to get me out of an unsafe school district.  readmoreoften   Sep-04-06 01:27 AM   #109 
                          - And they didn't think to call the cops?  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 01:58 AM   #113 
                          - The school itself called the cops. Who do you think cleared us  readmoreoften   Sep-04-06 02:03 AM   #115 
                          - Bomb threats are federal offenses  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 02:08 AM   #119 
                          - Twenty years ago laws weren't enforced with such gusto.  readmoreoften   Sep-04-06 03:52 AM   #123 
                          - Your argument basically boils down to the following:  Zhade   Sep-04-06 01:13 AM   #106 
                          - actually no, it doesn't  mzteris   Sep-04-06 11:40 AM   #140 
                          - Sure it is  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:42 PM   #151 
                          - Obviously your ability to read and interpret  mzteris   Sep-04-06 05:06 PM   #175 
                          - What's even stranger is that you refer to PS as "dumbing down" kids...  Zhade   Sep-04-06 05:12 PM   #180 
                          - you don't think NCLB is  mzteris   Sep-04-06 08:46 PM   #196 
                          - I've been quite clear about my objections to homeschooling  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 08:50 PM   #199 
                          - Exactly  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:41 PM   #150 
                          - actualy, this isn't the way it works.  Spangle   Sep-03-06 10:34 PM   #72 
                       - A child not there, costs the school money?  Spangle   Sep-03-06 11:40 PM   #83 
                       - You're wrong on the financial aspects.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:05 AM   #116 
                       - No the homeschoolers continually come on these threads about  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:47 AM   #96 
                       - Community has more than one meaning.  mzteris   Sep-04-06 11:06 AM   #132 
                       - No need to feel defensive.  joe_sixpack   Sep-04-06 07:42 PM   #194 
                       - How does one student getting a non-public education come at the  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 01:57 AM   #112 
                       - I wouldn't say "rich" but most homeschoolers I have known  Momgonepostal   Sep-03-06 11:21 PM   #79 
                       - Okay as a parent  TransitJohn   Sep-04-06 02:30 PM   #145 
                          - Singles without kids get this crap all the time  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:45 PM   #152 
                             - I know, and it totally sucks  TransitJohn   Sep-04-06 02:48 PM   #153 
                                - And there are those who are unable, physically, to have children  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:51 PM   #156 
                       - Glad to see you get it  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:23 AM   #91 
                          - Oh, I do  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:50 PM   #155 
                             - What makes me sad  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 04:54 PM   #173 
           - My school does  countingbluecars   Sep-03-06 09:13 PM   #35 
           - That isn't the way it works  MysteryToMyself   Sep-03-06 10:07 PM   #56 
           - you missed my point  mzteris   Sep-04-06 10:54 AM   #129 
              - I already posted in another post  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 03:39 PM   #172 
                 - You r grandson may have had  mzteris   Sep-04-06 05:00 PM   #174 
           - You are correct  Taoschick   Sep-03-06 10:12 PM   #59 
           - You work to change the system  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:11 AM   #84 
           - Excellent post.  countingbluecars   Sep-04-06 12:22 AM   #90 
              - Thanks CBC  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:58 AM   #98 
           - I'm with you, and I don't understand the argument they're making here.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 01:51 AM   #111 
              - thanks  mzteris   Sep-04-06 11:03 AM   #131 
                 - I wonder how many of the idealists here would actually be willing  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:59 PM   #160 
        - And despite the lose of money the public schools still have to....  BrotherBuzz   Sep-03-06 08:35 PM   #19 
        - Or when they get kicked out of those charter schools  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:14 AM   #85 
           - Well, then there's that  BrotherBuzz   Sep-04-06 12:19 AM   #88 
        - That depends on the state  Solo_in_MD   Sep-03-06 08:57 PM   #27 
        - It depends on how they do their student count.  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:16 AM   #86 
        - Charter schools receive money from the state. Students at private schools  pnwmom   Sep-03-06 10:08 PM   #57 
        - No it is not a wash  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:18 AM   #87 
           - Teachers aren't paid if they are laid off, which is what happens in  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 01:31 AM   #110 
              - The buildings don't shrink  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 02:01 AM   #114 
                 - Unnecessary buildings can be shut down, rented out, or sold.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 06:06 AM   #124 
                    - Okay let's close your neighborhood school first  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 03:03 PM   #163 
                       - That'd be okay with pnwmom  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 03:14 PM   #168 
                       - My neighborhood school in Seattle closed the year we moved there.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:11 PM   #179 
        - In Texas, the ADA computes to only $79.00 per child.  Maestro   Sep-03-06 10:14 PM   #61 
           - per what length of time?  dsc   Sep-03-06 10:25 PM   #66 
           - The whole friggin' year  Maestro   Sep-03-06 11:29 PM   #82 
              - that is mind boggling  dsc   Sep-04-06 08:09 AM   #126 
              - Texas doesn't have a state tax  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 03:04 PM   #164 
              - Nope, no state tax  Maestro   Sep-04-06 05:07 PM   #176 
              - Texas doesn't have a state tax  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 03:04 PM   #165 
           - My district has been devastated financially by charter schools  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 12:22 AM   #89 
              - Charter schools are a totally different issue, because  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:08 AM   #118 
                 - Services given to the poor don't benefit you?!  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:55 PM   #159 
                 - I find that most of the homeschooling threads  countingbluecars   Sep-04-06 03:05 PM   #166 
                 - This one certainly does  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 03:10 PM   #167 
                 - You know I already said, multiple times, that I fully support public  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:30 PM   #185 
                 - You are wrong to assume that private or home schooled students  MichiganVote   Sep-04-06 05:28 PM   #184 
                    - That's totally not what I've been saying.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:35 PM   #186 
                       - Trying to define what is a financial burden in the public schools  MichiganVote   Sep-04-06 06:14 PM   #187 
                          - The loss of a student's reimbursement is only a factor if a student  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 07:01 PM   #189 
                             - A school's budget year is not the same as the state/local gov't  MichiganVote   Sep-04-06 07:37 PM   #193 
                                - No, you didn't try to tell me what to do with my child.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 09:07 PM   #201 
                                   - I read the posts pnwmom...but I think its best to confine your objections  MichiganVote   Sep-04-06 09:58 PM   #205 
                                      - Well, we agree on that. I don't favor vouchers or charter schools because  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 10:37 PM   #206 
                                         - Purity, in any form, seems a pretty lost cause among human beings  MichiganVote   Sep-05-06 04:16 PM   #207 
  - Ditto n/t  miketorse   Sep-03-06 07:39 PM   #8 
  - I would agree with you  JitterbugPerfume   Sep-04-06 11:16 AM   #136 
  - There's nothing I'd like more..  sendero   Sep-03-06 07:35 PM   #3 
  - We're dealing with just that in my family right now. My niece has just  SoyCat   Sep-03-06 09:02 PM   #31 
  - That guy's a Moran!  rfranklin   Sep-03-06 07:36 PM   #4 
  - These fascists do want any other religion other than their own.  AX10   Sep-03-06 07:36 PM   #5 
  - They have no alternative other than to ram their religion down your throat  nolabels   Sep-04-06 06:30 AM   #125 
  - This is part of the Xtian Nationalist Movement...  and-justice-for-all   Sep-03-06 07:36 PM   #6 
  - That person holding his hand sounds familiar. Who could it be.... maybe  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 07:51 PM   #10 
  - Thankyou For Giving Voice to My Deepest Fear  Wiley50   Sep-03-06 10:47 PM   #77 
     - "These people are like the walking dead on meth"  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 01:02 AM   #101 
  - That's fine. Ithink that's probably a good thing.  napi21   Sep-03-06 07:38 PM   #7 
  - "Christian" home school programs should not be recognized  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 08:00 PM   #13 
  - But Christian, Buddist, Islam day schools should be?  Solo_in_MD   Sep-03-06 09:02 PM   #30 
  - well, obviously "atheist" day schools wouldn't teach the Bible  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 09:09 PM   #33 
     - Religious home schools should not be dismissed based soley because they  Solo_in_MD   Sep-03-06 09:19 PM   #39 
        - The reason religious home schooling of any kind should be dismissed  ComerPerro   Sep-03-06 10:33 PM   #71 
        - It seems inconsistent to claim that the private schools are tolerable  Solo_in_MD   Sep-04-06 01:13 AM   #105 
           - Especially in states where a home school is a private school  LeftyMom   Sep-04-06 11:13 AM   #135 
        - Its all part of their plan.....  and-justice-for-all   Sep-04-06 02:09 AM   #120 
  - I agree  MATTMAN   Sep-03-06 09:30 PM   #46 
  - Creepy Control Freaks  stepnw1f   Sep-03-06 08:02 PM   #14 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-03-06 08:05 PM   #15 
  - From July of this year:  diamidue   Sep-03-06 08:10 PM   #16 
  - I could've told you that: have you read their curricular materials?  knitter4democracy   Sep-03-06 08:39 PM   #20 
     - I went to a Baptist school,  Wise Child   Sep-03-06 09:22 PM   #40 
     - Welcome to DU, Wise Child!  sfexpat2000   Sep-03-06 10:33 PM   #70 
     - I went to a Nazarene college.  knitter4democracy   Sep-04-06 10:45 AM   #127 
        - And there are now more Evangelical colleges than ever  riderinthestorm   Sep-04-06 02:54 PM   #158 
           - That sounds like some kids I knew.  knitter4democracy   Sep-04-06 07:28 PM   #190 
     - They have a Christian home school curriculum that is just horrible  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 01:05 AM   #103 
        - I've seen parts of that.  knitter4democracy   Sep-04-06 10:46 AM   #128 
        - Some of the "Christian" texts are really quite bad  LeftyMom   Sep-04-06 11:28 AM   #139 
           - Hey, I like Saxon.  knitter4democracy   Sep-04-06 07:29 PM   #191 
  - They'll pose a real threat to immigrant labor.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-03-06 08:14 PM   #17 
  - not all homeschoolers  mzteris   Sep-03-06 08:44 PM   #21 
  - See post number 9 nt  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 08:46 PM   #22 
  - We all need to remember to be more respectful of each  brer cat   Sep-03-06 09:15 PM   #37 
     - You paid taxes, but  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 09:25 PM   #43 
     - What You Seem to Not Understand About Public Schools  Crisco   Sep-03-06 10:24 PM   #65 
     - What I understand is that homeschooling and private schooling  mycritters2   Sep-03-06 10:28 PM   #68 
        - As a good Democrat, when my child needs to go to the emergency room,  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:27 AM   #122 
        - The only hospital I have easy access to is a public hospital  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 02:34 PM   #147 
           - You didn't answer my question about private health insurance.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:49 PM   #154 
              - I volunteer a good many hours each week  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 03:18 PM   #169 
                 - Good for you. But it sounds like you have or have had health insurance.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 05:08 PM   #177 
        - Wealth? Puhleeze.....  Ikonoklast   Sep-04-06 11:45 AM   #141 
     - We don't "get" it, because you're wrong.  pnwmom   Sep-04-06 02:17 AM   #121 
     - thanks.  mzteris   Sep-03-06 09:30 PM   #47 
  - "everything i BELIEVE is disallowed"  JI7   Sep-03-06 08:53 PM   #23 
  - and when the fundies take over the school boards  mzteris   Sep-03-06 08:54 PM   #25 
  - exactly  MATTMAN   Sep-03-06 09:35 PM   #49 
  - He's peeved that he can't force those beliefs on others  thecatburgler   Sep-03-06 11:25 PM   #80 
  - So now we have our own madrassahs?  mainer   Sep-03-06 09:24 PM   #41 
  - Hey, MORAN!  sakabatou   Sep-03-06 10:33 PM   #69 
  - We are supposed to have  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 02:32 PM   #146 
  - I have been saying that for years.  LostInAnomie   Sep-03-06 11:28 PM   #81 
  - I don't get it. Do they believe they're all flying up to heaven soon  Kurovski   Sep-04-06 12:59 AM   #100 
  - Hello!!!  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Sep-04-06 02:05 AM   #117 
  - Public Schools take a lot of criticism from all sides.  LWolf   Sep-04-06 11:03 AM   #130 
  - This is so sad. I know some people can do homeschooling, but most cannot  leesa   Sep-04-06 11:07 AM   #133 
  - The Bush Mullahs have really stepped over a line.  DemEtienne   Sep-04-06 11:10 AM   #134 
  - GOP needs more money  OzarkDem   Sep-04-06 11:48 AM   #142 
  - Actually, vouchers are really a way for the taxpayers to pay  proud2Blib   Sep-04-06 05:16 PM   #182 
  - Here is a win win idea  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 02:15 PM   #144 
  - I wouldn't want that.  LeftyMom   Sep-04-06 02:52 PM   #157 
     - That is what my grandson gets in public school  MysteryToMyself   Sep-04-06 03:20 PM   #170 
  - Good News !!!...take those little kooks away from my kids !!!!!  Ragazz68   Sep-04-06 07:01 PM   #188 
  - Yes, please do  bluestateguy   Sep-04-06 07:32 PM   #192 
  - May be a way of creating a critical mass for a vastly expanded VOUCHER  Nikki Stone 1   Sep-04-06 07:56 PM   #195 
     - Progressives who homeschool and use private ed are helping  mycritters2   Sep-04-06 08:52 PM   #200 
 

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