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Wed Aug-30-06 11:46 AM
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| 26. Haven't read the paper |
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and it's been a few years since I worked as a chemist however the qualifications sound about right. I'd have to have one of my more up to date friends take a look at it for a real educated response since I haven't read a professional journal in that area in about 6 years.
But creating a real large explosion is not as easy as McGyver makes it look. Starting fires on the other hand aren't that difficult but then you don't need to worry about toothpaste do ya.
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| -Chemists: TATP Liquid Bombs Impossible to Make In Jet Lavatory--Huge Hoax |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 10:36 AM |
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if i had to fly during that "terra crisis" i'd be totally pissed |
nashville_brook |
Aug-30-06 10:48 AM |
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Am I mistaken that the concept of a "liquid bomb" is a realistic scenario? |
Straight Shooter |
Aug-30-06 10:51 AM |
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It's only realistic if you were able to stay in a jet lavatory |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 10:55 AM |
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Not a realistic scenario. |
TheWraith |
Aug-30-06 11:41 AM |
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It 100% realistic--if the device is crammed in a checked bag, under |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 11:53 AM |
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I heard Ramzi Joseph tried this & actually brought down a Phillippine plan |
librechik |
Aug-30-06 12:49 PM |
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He did not mix that explosive onboard |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 01:15 PM |
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It didn't work because of the placement |
groovedaddy |
Aug-30-06 08:36 PM |
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Ist he JonBenet Ramzi's Dad? OMG. He's even nastier than I thought! |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 01:54 PM |
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omg--I just read that aloud--ROFL!!! |
librechik |
Aug-30-06 05:58 PM |
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That's of course assuming Ramzi Yousef wasn't a CIA asset in the..... |
MikeyJones |
Aug-30-06 05:07 PM |
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Thanks for the replies. |
Straight Shooter |
Aug-30-06 12:55 PM |
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Answer; too logical! You sciencey logical liberals....sheesh. Annoying. |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 02:44 PM |
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I hang my head in shame. |
Straight Shooter |
Aug-30-06 04:08 PM |
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I can already see THIS coming |
warrens |
Aug-30-06 10:51 AM |
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Oh! But they could blurt the phoney directions all over the earth.. |
Joanne98 |
Aug-30-06 11:09 AM |
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Oh. Come. On. A trained monkey could make a molotov with |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 11:55 AM |
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the booze |
leftchick |
Aug-30-06 01:30 PM |
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Yes, at least three quarters of the time. lol |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 01:52 PM |
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They could have plugged every drain on the plane with a box of |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-30-06 03:58 PM |
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I liked this comment on the Washington Monthly blog |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 10:58 AM |
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Really? Take a look at Tannerite - a manufactured binary explosive. |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 10:58 AM |
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You googled "Binary Explosive"? You're braver than me!! |
Bonobo |
Aug-30-06 11:05 AM |
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No kidding! Welcome to the Terra Watch List! |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-30-06 11:10 AM |
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! |
Blue State Native |
Aug-30-06 12:01 PM |
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Ever worked in a lab? |
Protagoras |
Aug-30-06 11:08 AM |
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Did you look at the links? Please do, and comment. NT |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 11:09 AM |
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Yup |
Protagoras |
Aug-30-06 11:17 AM |
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Simple question: Do you agree with the Journal of American |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:24 AM |
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Haven't read the paper |
Protagoras |
Aug-30-06 11:46 AM |
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I will have to agree with you about TSA. |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 11:31 AM |
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Tannerite is detonated by a hot bullet, not electronic detonation |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:10 AM |
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An electric blasting cap does the same thing. NT |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 11:14 AM |
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If you can smuggle blasting caps onboard, why not dynamite? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Aug-30-06 11:21 AM |
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Size. A blastin cap is tiny, a stick of dynamite isn't. |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 11:28 AM |
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Then why didn't they ban Tannerite years ago? |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:35 AM |
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OK. Looks like what the Islamists were planning was impossible. |
OldSiouxWarrior |
Aug-30-06 11:44 AM |
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I agree. But the point is Bush and Blair lied |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:57 AM |
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"Islamists"? I think you mis-spelled "terrorists" |
rman |
Aug-31-06 05:12 AM |
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Didn't you get the memo? |
Ignis |
Aug-31-06 12:53 PM |
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But a blasting cap is nothing more than a battery |
Pawel K |
Aug-31-06 08:25 AM |
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Nice try, but detonation caps are banned too. |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:21 AM |
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The hoax was about TATP, not Tannerite |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 11:12 AM |
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heyyyy....you are now on the NSA terror watch list..SHHHHH N/T |
flyarm |
Aug-31-06 02:50 AM |
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Not That Easy |
ProfessorGAC |
Aug-31-06 07:04 AM |
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I googled it just for friggin fun. Like throwing * should be dead into ra |
DWilliamsamh |
Aug-31-06 10:52 AM |
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So the bush admin lied to us about a terror threat? |
Botany |
Aug-30-06 11:17 AM |
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I'll just pat myself on the back a little... |
TheWraith |
Aug-30-06 11:33 AM |
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I did too... |
orwell |
Aug-30-06 11:48 AM |
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Me too. Even though I made it up it sounded plausible! LOL |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 11:56 AM |
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/me proudly adjusts his Tin Foil Crown. |
Beelzebud |
Aug-30-06 12:06 PM |
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well, I want to go on record as saying I didn't think it was BS |
NJCher |
Aug-31-06 07:16 AM |
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The hysteria was nutso because TATP is impractical, and |
petgoat |
Aug-30-06 12:09 PM |
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As a chemist who works for the defense industry.... |
Sal316 |
Aug-30-06 12:09 PM |
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Thank you for this immensely! |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 12:20 PM |
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Kick it up for yet another *BOGUS* terra 'lert. |
Raster |
Aug-30-06 12:35 PM |
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Duh! |
malaise |
Aug-30-06 01:18 PM |
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Right! I remember them mixing two liquids and saying "It's that easy!" |
Dems Will Win |
Aug-30-06 01:22 PM |
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Vinegar and Baking Soda ? nt |
EVDebs |
Aug-30-06 10:31 PM |
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Technically that's a liquid and a powder... |
Solon |
Aug-31-06 11:20 AM |
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Sorry. Same chemistry as the coke and mentos we're seeing on TV nt |
EVDebs |
Aug-31-06 01:25 PM |
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Glycerin in hand sanitizers and homemade nitro is what MSM is leading to |
EVDebs |
Aug-31-06 01:31 PM |
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Well, there's always the mixing of Bleach and Vinegar... |
Solon |
Aug-31-06 02:43 PM |
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Between this & JBR, Rove must feel confident he owns the media. |
spanone |
Aug-30-06 01:35 PM |
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Ramsey (JonBenet) Ramzi (Youssef) Whoa! So THAT'S why DHS was involved. |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 03:05 PM |
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Yes, the whole story has kind of drifted off to the shores of Loch Ness |
Justice Is Comin |
Aug-30-06 06:24 PM |
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Uh oh. Karr just confessed to being Nessie. |
elehhhhna |
Aug-30-06 08:09 PM |
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Bruce Schneier's security newsletter: |
TrueStory |
Aug-30-06 02:34 PM |
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Some pay-off. |
Kailassa |
Aug-30-06 03:26 PM |
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The scam? |
LUHiWY |
Aug-31-06 01:47 PM |
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Yeah, and some of us here knew that and didn't buy into the scam. |
Zhade |
Aug-30-06 03:29 PM |
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i hope those here who did will be more inquisitive next time.. |
frylock |
Aug-30-06 03:49 PM |
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Hey, I became more inquisitive after I realized they were lying to us... |
Zhade |
Aug-30-06 05:02 PM |
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some are able to take that lesson with them.. |
frylock |
Aug-30-06 06:17 PM |
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It's a great rule-of-thumb, works pretty much every time! |
Zhade |
Aug-30-06 08:31 PM |
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Damn...sounds like being a terraist is "Hard Work!" |
Hubert Flottz |
Aug-30-06 03:46 PM |
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Neoconitis is holistically a big hoax on this Republic and we the people |
indepat |
Aug-30-06 03:59 PM |
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Nothing to see here-back to your Celebrity News-Terror Alert 5.1 next week |
Supersedeas |
Aug-30-06 04:10 PM |
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Now they tell us! |
jmowreader |
Aug-30-06 05:22 PM |
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What's probably a greater risk is thermite placed over the |
petgoat |
Aug-30-06 05:26 PM |
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Simple box cutters did the job |
lumpy |
Aug-30-06 05:38 PM |
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Did they? |
WinkyDink |
Aug-30-06 05:42 PM |
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I'm stunned - you mean they lied to us |
goddess40 |
Aug-30-06 08:10 PM |
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So TATP liquid bombs may be impossible, but... |
WestMichRad |
Aug-30-06 09:21 PM |
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Now if only myth busters would take this on... |
rosebud57 |
Aug-30-06 09:26 PM |
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Didn't they actually |
Marie26 |
Aug-30-06 10:45 PM |
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Yes, indeed |
DemReadingDU |
Aug-31-06 07:00 AM |
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So how is it impossible? |
Marie26 |
Sep-01-06 08:17 AM |
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It Was Different |
ProfessorGAC |
Sep-01-06 08:23 AM |
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Thanks for posting |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-31-06 05:54 AM |
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Trust Me On This Folks: It's Even Harder Than This Suggests |
ProfessorGAC |
Aug-31-06 05:59 AM |
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I took chemistry and organic in college, I knew this was bogus unless they |
oc2002 |
Aug-31-06 08:38 AM |
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One Other Note |
ProfessorGAC |
Aug-31-06 11:09 AM |
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I'd be a lot more worried about somebody mixing up a binary nerve agent |
benEzra |
Aug-31-06 11:03 AM |
#85 |
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