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Response to Reply #130
180. When he had the opportunity to get elected the first time he proved
that while he may have at one point had something, he is tired and unwilling to be a real fighter. Soory, I voted for him last election and instead of being a fighter he simpered. Rather than facing attacks he allowed chickenhawks to pain him as a coward.

While I agree with much of what John Kerry may be saying he has proven to me that when the chips are down he hesitates. Sorry, I've had one prsident too many who hesitated. That was on 9-11 and I want him fired with that being on the top of the list of why.

Thank you for displaying your Republican choice to attack my choice of free speach for disagreement rather that bringing up an intellectual argument, please, you can blame the other medicines I have in my cocktail. I have stage 4 metasticized appendiceal carcanoma - AKA Cancer - I face my challenges every day and I keep going in spite of them. If I quit like Kerry did I'd have let myself be turned into an invalid. I want a leader who has enough backbone to fight back and a real leader who knows how to make America a strong dynamic and benevolent country, not an empire to be feared.

Please go back to your simple snipes and easy answers though, it is much easier to throw out a generic easy insult that demeans me as a human being without any actual investigation into the reasons behind a statement. It's much easier to live in a world where you don't have to think.
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  Kerry alleges misconduct in 2004 Ohio vote kpete  Aug-29-06 12:13 PM   #0 
   too late, john  rusty charly   Aug-29-06 12:14 PM   #1 
   Too late to warn about election fraud? Would Aug 2002 have been too late  blm   Aug-29-06 12:16 PM   #2 
   BRAVO blm!! Too late for 2004 but NOT for 2006, 2008, ...  helderheid   Aug-29-06 12:22 PM   #5 
   You're right. I think that a lot of people who worked hard  sfexpat2000   Aug-29-06 03:58 PM   #58 
   you are so VERY right! We need all dems to speak up!  robinlynne   Aug-29-06 04:05 PM   #64 
   To late  rrasile   Aug-29-06 04:22 PM   #71 
      And if Gore warned of election fraud in 2002 it would've been too late?  blm   Aug-29-06 04:56 PM   #76 
         Kerry & Gore too late... need new blood!  Imagevision   Aug-30-06 08:18 PM   #166 
            That new blood has a 13yr record of quietly sitting on the sidelines, even  blm   Aug-31-06 09:08 AM   #173 
   he has brought up these allegations before, along with other Dem's.  wisteria   Aug-29-06 12:43 PM   #7 
   Take a Walk Kerry,and bring Hillary With You  bigluckyfeet   Aug-29-06 05:20 PM   #84 
   This isn't a new statement  LittleClarkie   Aug-29-06 06:49 PM   #92 
   Agreed.  Benfea   Aug-31-06 12:39 PM   #177 
   2 Years Too Later  ThomWV   Aug-29-06 12:17 PM   #3 
   Would Aug2002 have been too late for Gore to warn Dems on election fraud?  blm   Aug-29-06 12:19 PM   #4 
   you're missing "for 2004". Not for 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, etc., etc.  helderheid   Aug-29-06 12:23 PM   #6 
   You haven't be paying attention, yet you feel you have a right to  wisteria   Aug-29-06 12:47 PM   #9 
   All judgments about Kerry aside  PATRICK   Aug-29-06 12:46 PM   #8 
   You're so right. Authorized Propoganda is connected  sfexpat2000   Aug-29-06 03:07 PM   #35 
   Apparently not - they're sucked into mocking Kerry as the article intended  blm   Aug-29-06 07:29 PM   #98 
      Kerry obviously struck a nerve!  ProSense   Aug-29-06 07:32 PM   #99 
      Kerry obviously struck a nerve!  ProSense   Aug-29-06 07:32 PM   #100 
   However, combined with posts like yours - great material for LTTEs!  redqueen   Aug-29-06 03:58 PM   #57 
   You're so right.  femmedem   Aug-29-06 09:06 PM   #122 
   and that's why we can't give him another chance to throw an election.  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 12:50 PM   #10 
   agreed. he can and should play a powerful role tho in cleaning up the  Kashka-Kat   Aug-29-06 12:59 PM   #13 
   I would encourage him to follow Al Gore's lead.  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 01:56 PM   #20 
      I heard Gore repeatedly warned Dems about election fraud in 2001 and 2002  blm   Aug-29-06 02:30 PM   #25 
         I honestly don't remember that - but I take you at your word  karynnj   Aug-29-06 02:41 PM   #28 
         Actually, he didn't - I was making a point that election fraud was OFF the  blm   Aug-29-06 03:57 PM   #56 
         Then where was he while hundreds of thousands of citizens were in the  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 03:50 PM   #49 
            Exactly!  mongo   Aug-29-06 03:56 PM   #54 
            Hundreds of thousands?  MH1   Aug-29-06 08:05 PM   #104 
               No you wouldn't, because there was NO COVERAGE at all.  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 02:41 PM   #150 
   Who is that?  blm   Aug-29-06 02:24 PM   #23 
   I don't know. Who was Huey Long before he took up the cry and  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 03:54 PM   #52 
      So work against the Dem with the BEST record of any lawmaker in office  blm   Aug-29-06 04:00 PM   #60 
         Who's working against him? As far as I know the voters in Massachusetts  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 04:04 PM   #63 
            HAHA - you don't accrue the record exposing govt corruption that Kerry has  blm   Aug-29-06 04:17 PM   #69 
               Hmmm, seems to me that he was a Senator in 2000 when the  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 04:24 PM   #73 
                  When it really mattered means different times to different people.  blm   Aug-29-06 04:27 PM   #75 
                  Since you have apparently forgotten what was written five lines up,  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 05:01 PM   #77 
                     There still isn't a one who's put his ass on the line more than Kerry has.  blm   Aug-29-06 05:08 PM   #80 
                        "Laws grind the poor, and rich men rule the law" - Oliver Goldsmith  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 05:49 PM   #85 
                        Because Gore asked them not to do it - Gore was not in the position to  blm   Aug-29-06 05:57 PM   #88 
                           No, it's never easy to be a hero, that's why we have so few.  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 03:02 PM   #151 
                              Completely untrue - one senator could have done it but all that would have  blm   Aug-30-06 03:50 PM   #153 
                                 You're just wrong. If he, or any Senator, had signed on to the challenge  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 04:08 PM   #156 
                                    I agree it would've prolonged the issue - but to WHAT POINT? To the point  blm   Aug-30-06 05:37 PM   #160 
                                       As I said, it would've forced their hand and utterly crippled his  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 05:49 PM   #162 
                                          In what mediaworld do you think that is what would have gone down?  blm   Aug-30-06 07:57 PM   #165 
                                             You're right about the media, that's why the resolution, or whatever  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 11:43 PM   #170 
                        I like Kerry well enough but you go to far......  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 07:07 PM   #93 
                           The team of election lawyers said there was no legal case to continue, and  blm   Aug-29-06 07:15 PM   #94 
                              I am not going to dignify that specious remark (n/t)  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 08:36 PM   #117 
                  Kerry was one of the few publicly supporting Gore's fight  karynnj   Aug-29-06 08:15 PM   #108 
                     So what? What Gore wanted or didn't want is irrelevant, they carried  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 03:17 PM   #152 
   Who do you propose as that mythical savior?  karynnj   Aug-29-06 02:57 PM   #29 
   I'm sure both Gore and Kerry are exceptionally decent men.  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 03:59 PM   #59 
      Kerry never waded in the sewer and if you read the congressional record,  blm   Aug-29-06 05:14 PM   #82 
         Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-29-06 05:52 PM   #86 
            No she believes in spreading the truth and refuting lies about Dems  politicasista   Aug-29-06 05:56 PM   #87 
            I'm an anti-corruption, open government Democrat - so that makes me  blm   Aug-29-06 05:59 PM   #89 
            Wow, that's an insulting post. Just wow. nt  MH1   Aug-29-06 08:07 PM   #105 
            Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-29-06 11:07 PM   #137 
               Let's IGNORE Kerry's actual record of service so we can feel superior to  blm   Aug-30-06 09:20 AM   #141 
                  How about we just recognize that Too Late John is unproductive  PresidentWar   Aug-30-06 04:07 PM   #155 
                     I'd say that determination was made by someone else. Everyone knows I can  blm   Aug-31-06 09:14 AM   #174 
                        Changing the subject won't help you, blm  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 05:26 PM   #185 
                           You whined, I replied. Your PREMISE is crap. AFTER the vote is too late  blm   Aug-31-06 08:57 PM   #191 
                              Nice ad hom, but lets look at the facts instead....  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 09:15 PM   #196 
                                 You want a civics course in how elections work and who is responsible for  blm   Aug-31-06 09:23 PM   #201 
                                 I've read some more of your posts - you attack ALOT of Dems.  blm   Aug-31-06 09:53 PM   #207 
   Before the election the Kerry campaign acknowledged the  petgoat   Aug-30-06 03:58 PM   #154 
   Just listening to Gore Vidal on the Randi show and he said it too.  greyhound1966   Aug-30-06 04:32 PM   #159 
   shouldn't he have contested in 2004 when the rest of us were  samsingh   Aug-29-06 12:50 PM   #11 
   Agreed. He had the spotlight in 2004.  edwardsfeingold08   Aug-29-06 01:06 PM   #14 
   Welcome to DU, edwardsfeingold08!  No Surrender   Aug-29-06 01:19 PM   #17 
   he had the lawyers ready. it was very disappointing  samsingh   Aug-29-06 01:50 PM   #19 
   There'd be no mystery if people would comprehend what they choose not to.  blm   Sep-01-06 08:07 AM   #209 
   Welcome indeed.  greyhound1966   Aug-29-06 04:09 PM   #65 
   With NO LEGAL EVIDENCE to continue the contest in court.  blm   Aug-29-06 05:02 PM   #78 
   It's like the old joke about why I couldn't be a comedian...  PurityOfEssence   Aug-29-06 12:55 PM   #12 
   That's harsh.  edwardsfeingold08   Aug-29-06 01:08 PM   #15 
   You are wrong on all accounts. Also, Stevenson's circumstances  wisteria   Aug-29-06 02:09 PM   #21 
   Please cite specifics  PurityOfEssence   Aug-29-06 02:34 PM   #27 
      What the hell are you talking about?  TayTay   Aug-29-06 03:03 PM   #31 
   And the Democrat who has the greatest control of media and can depend  blm   Aug-29-06 02:27 PM   #24 
   Totally agree...  NotGonnaTakeIt   Aug-29-06 03:05 PM   #34 
      Kerry is not damaged goods  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:41 PM   #44 
      How about Wes Clark? n/t  PegDAC   Aug-29-06 08:07 PM   #106 
         Don't fall for the poster's bait n/t  politicasista   Aug-29-06 08:30 PM   #111 
   This pisses me off.  smartvoter   Aug-29-06 01:15 PM   #16 
   No, it means that he did all he could with the proof he had in front of  wisteria   Aug-29-06 02:18 PM   #22 
   The problem is the article which implies that Kerry is saying he won  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:22 PM   #39 
   Perhaps Sen Kerry could go into the Af Am neighborhoods that were  mod mom   Aug-29-06 01:20 PM   #18 
   I just don't understand what's the matter with Kerry, with so many  sfexpat2000   Aug-29-06 03:09 PM   #36 
   What people are you talking about? Kerry has a Senate staff like other  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:34 PM   #42 
      I'm talking about a leadership that hasn't addressed the  sfexpat2000   Aug-29-06 03:46 PM   #46 
         He didn't walk away - he didn't have proof to fight it  karynnj   Aug-29-06 08:11 PM   #107 
            I'm not going to criticize John Kerry for speaking out. I'm glad he did.  sfexpat2000   Aug-29-06 09:09 PM   #124 
   Agree n/t  politicasista   Aug-29-06 09:03 PM   #121 
   "We promised"  Poiuyt   Aug-29-06 02:31 PM   #26 
   This was November 3rd  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:12 PM   #38 
   I vote "too late John", as well.  Spiffarino   Aug-29-06 02:58 PM   #30 
   So, have Feingold or Edwards spoken out as much as Kerry  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:33 PM   #41 
      Yes, why was Bill Clinton silent in 2004, and why does he remain silent?  flpoljunkie   Aug-29-06 03:50 PM   #50 
      WTF has Clinton got to do with any of this?  Spiffarino   Aug-29-06 04:11 PM   #67 
      When I mentioned Clinton, it was because he had the biggest voice  karynnj   Aug-29-06 08:26 PM   #110 
      Bill Clinton works for Clinton... Hillary Clinton  LibraLiz1973   Aug-29-06 10:21 PM   #127 
      Actually there is SOUND REASON to bring Clinton into it - He oversaw the  blm   Aug-30-06 09:29 AM   #143 
         Thanks for responding, blm. Excellent points, as usual!  flpoljunkie   Aug-31-06 01:19 PM   #178 
      It's all politics...  ManWroteTheBible   Aug-29-06 10:39 PM   #131 
      You solidly missed the point  Spiffarino   Aug-29-06 04:03 PM   #62 
         That's nonsense!  ProSense   Aug-29-06 04:13 PM   #68 
         He needed ELECTION LAWYERS to question the validity and none  blm   Aug-31-06 05:03 PM   #181 
   A day late and a dollar short  depakid   Aug-29-06 03:03 PM   #32 
   Gee John, thanks for the heads up on that whole election fraud  Nebulous Abstraction   Aug-29-06 03:04 PM   #33 
   Kerry came to the same conclusion then too  karynnj   Aug-29-06 03:28 PM   #40 
   I know  DUBYASCREWEDUS   Aug-29-06 03:10 PM   #37 
   We need ALL dems on this issue.  politicasista   Aug-29-06 03:40 PM   #43 
   and this is what important right now.  BlueCentrist   Aug-29-06 03:45 PM   #45 
   He made mistakes, but he is learning from them  politicasista   Aug-29-06 03:47 PM   #47 
      Good that he learned from them- now he can apply that knowledge to a new  LibraLiz1973   Aug-29-06 10:22 PM   #128 
   Right!!  ladym55   Aug-29-06 11:03 PM   #135 
   Uh oh.  neuvocat   Aug-29-06 03:47 PM   #48 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-29-06 03:50 PM   #51 
   Wow! That's a lot of  ProSense   Aug-29-06 04:02 PM   #61 
   I understand your rage  DemEtienne   Aug-29-06 04:10 PM   #66 
   To all y'all who are taking this as an opportunity to bash kerry ...  redqueen   Aug-29-06 03:55 PM   #53 
   It's ok  politicasista   Aug-29-06 03:56 PM   #55 
   Hey Redqueen  mongo   Aug-29-06 04:19 PM   #70 
      You tell them it mattered, it still matters, and it always will matter.  MH1   Aug-29-06 08:35 PM   #115 
      Wouldn't the head of the Ohio Democratic Party be a far better  karynnj   Aug-29-06 08:46 PM   #119 
      You tell them that you NEVER GIVE UP, that's what.  redqueen   Aug-30-06 12:43 PM   #147 
         I hear you too  mongo   Aug-30-06 01:37 PM   #149 
            The hour is getting late, indeed...  redqueen   Aug-30-06 05:44 PM   #161 
               Yeah but you wouldn't believe  mongo   Aug-31-06 11:52 AM   #175 
                  I always forget how freaking stupid they are.  redqueen   Aug-31-06 12:35 PM   #176 
   Good Ol' John, late to the party as always  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 04:22 PM   #72 
   Why bother to slam him then, if he's so irrelevant?  ginnyinWI   Aug-29-06 04:27 PM   #74 
   Because we need better.  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 08:34 PM   #113 
   What Democrats HAVE been leading the party on election fraud issue?  blm   Aug-29-06 06:06 PM   #90 
      Before or AFTER it was even relevent and needed?  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 10:22 PM   #129 
         Did the GOPs steal the election on Nov 2, or did they work at it for 4yrs?  blm   Aug-30-06 10:28 AM   #146 
            Did Too Late John fight election fraud WHEN it happened  PresidentWar   Aug-30-06 04:09 PM   #157 
               Kerry's been speaking out about election fraud since Jan2005 when more  blm   Aug-30-06 09:57 PM   #168 
                  Did Too Late John fight election fraud WHEN it happened, blm?  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 05:28 PM   #186 
                     WHEN it happened was the duty of the Dem party infrastructure. Democratic  blm   Aug-31-06 06:15 PM   #187 
                        Ahh, so help Too Late John duck the blame!  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 09:12 PM   #195 
                           You see facts as something to avoid. You are NOT a machine fraud expert  blm   Aug-31-06 09:40 PM   #206 
   Nice spin, assholes  LittleClarkie   Aug-29-06 05:04 PM   #79 
   yes  savemefromdumbya   Aug-31-06 09:21 PM   #200 
   as I heard Mark Crispin Miller say a few weeks ago...  LSK   Aug-29-06 05:10 PM   #81 
   That is conjecture  karynnj   Aug-29-06 08:35 PM   #114 
   If that's it, then I feel safer that SOMEONE woke up & smelled the fascism  blm   Aug-31-06 05:13 PM   #184 
   Anyone care to comment?  ProSense   Aug-29-06 05:18 PM   #83 
   Ever hear of too little too late?  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 06:39 PM   #91 
   Tell me about the battles that brave others have taken on through  blm   Aug-29-06 08:02 PM   #102 
      I was waiting for that question...  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 08:32 PM   #112 
         I would say they are very good, but still behind in the REALLY STICK YOUR  blm   Aug-30-06 10:04 AM   #145 
   A little late w/ the barn door John.  Botany   Aug-29-06 07:16 PM   #95 
   Why don't you target Dems that are silent  politicasista   Aug-29-06 07:17 PM   #97 
   I live in Columbus, OH  Botany   Aug-29-06 07:57 PM   #101 
   Would you say the same if Gore repeatedly warned of election fraud c2002?  blm   Aug-29-06 08:04 PM   #103 
      No... because Gore actually faught until the Supremes stepped in.  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 08:41 PM   #118 
         Not exactly how it happened!  ProSense   Aug-29-06 09:08 PM   #123 
            But Kerry had the reports of irregularities.  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 09:52 PM   #125 
               That's not accurate!  ProSense   Aug-29-06 10:19 PM   #126 
                  Thanks.... I appreciate the citations.... I concede the point  DWilliamsamh   Aug-29-06 10:52 PM   #134 
   Give them hell Senator-give them hell! /nt  nam78_two   Aug-29-06 07:17 PM   #96 
   WAy too late John, you lost your presidency and showed you  Selteri   Aug-29-06 08:17 PM   #109 
   BRAVO.  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 08:36 PM   #116 
   Change your bong water, dude...  zulchzulu   Aug-29-06 10:24 PM   #130 
      When he had the opportunity to get elected the first time he proved  Selteri   Aug-31-06 04:55 PM   #180 
         Great post. Spot on.  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 09:16 PM   #197 
   Never too late to bring public attention to electrion fraud happening NOW.  McCamy Taylor   Aug-29-06 09:00 PM   #120 
   Sure, but don't expect people to....  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 10:41 PM   #132 
      Read what John Conyers said about Kerry's efforts...  zulchzulu   Aug-29-06 10:46 PM   #133 
         With all due respect to Conyers,  PresidentWar   Aug-29-06 11:14 PM   #138 
            Actually, Kerry took the longest time to concede in any recent election...  vcotts   Aug-30-06 02:39 AM   #139 
            LOL, that's some consolation!  PresidentWar   Aug-30-06 04:10 PM   #158 
            Welcome to DU!  zulchzulu   Aug-30-06 07:31 PM   #164 
            Perhaps Kerry should have transformed into friggin' Godzilla on Nov. 3  zulchzulu   Aug-30-06 07:28 PM   #163 
   IF ONLY JOHN KERRY HUNG OUT AT DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND!  undeterred   Aug-29-06 11:05 PM   #136 
   If I'm not mistaken...  laundry_queen   Aug-30-06 02:46 AM   #140 
   He's been saying most of this since Jan2005 and has been adding details as  blm   Aug-30-06 09:33 AM   #144 
   Well it's about damn time!  lonestarnot   Aug-30-06 09:27 AM   #142 
   Ohio Voting  GusConsultore   Aug-30-06 01:23 PM   #148 
   Rip Van Kerry just woke up, eh? Talk about day late, dollar short!  FighttheFuture   Aug-30-06 08:22 PM   #167 
   He's been saying this since Jan 2005 - many times - even on senate floor  blm   Aug-31-06 05:05 PM   #182 
      BFD! When he had the chance, on $election night, to stand up, he  FighttheFuture   Aug-31-06 08:24 PM   #189 
         Where did you get that FAIRY TALE? It was the Dem team of ELECTION LAWYERS  blm   Aug-31-06 09:12 PM   #194 
            Hup - see?? PASS THE BUCK...  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 09:18 PM   #198 
               HAHAH - by your standard, Bush ran a great campaign, and beat Kerry in  blm   Aug-31-06 09:29 PM   #203 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-30-06 11:17 PM   #169 
   You blew it in three posts  magellan   Aug-31-06 06:05 AM   #172 
   Why in the world should Kerry pursue this any farther?  bling bling   Aug-31-06 04:31 AM   #171 
   Best post of the day - too many check their common sense at the door.  blm   Aug-31-06 05:07 PM   #183 
   Too Little too late!  demo dutch   Aug-31-06 01:26 PM   #179 
   Kerry is the BEST at doing the right thing too late  CollegeDUer   Aug-31-06 06:16 PM   #188 
   Well put!!!  FighttheFuture   Aug-31-06 08:25 PM   #190 
   If you believe that, PROVE IT - use the congressional record.  blm   Aug-31-06 08:59 PM   #193 
   Prove it. Use his record and prove what you claim. I say you're no student  blm   Aug-31-06 08:58 PM   #192 
   It's unreal to watch anyone defend THAT characteristic of John  PresidentWar   Aug-31-06 09:20 PM   #199 
      Yeah - only people who have READ the congressional record defend Kerry.  blm   Aug-31-06 09:35 PM   #204 
         National Security Archives  GodHelpUsAll2   Aug-31-06 11:06 PM   #208 
            Not a chance - the BFEE loathes the very existence of the NSA. It's a  blm   Sep-01-06 10:19 AM   #210 
   but wait a minute, the general public don't know anytihg about this fraud  savemefromdumbya   Aug-31-06 09:23 PM   #202 
   I Want To Post Here... But I Think It Needs To Be Brief So As Not. To  ChiciB1   Aug-31-06 09:40 PM   #205 
 

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