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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:08 AM
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11. Then you start growing commercial quanties of biodiesel feedstock
I highly reccomend that we start growing oil bearing algae myself, since we can grow enough of it to fuel the entire country.<http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html > Yup, all the fuel we need can be grown on 15,000 square miles of water. We can grow most of it in the holding ponds at every wastewater treatment plant across the country, thus not only growing our own fuel, but efficiently cleaning up sewage water, a twofer :think:

All we really need to do is to mandate that every new vehicle, from trucks to motorcycles are manufactured with a diesel engine. The infrastructure for distribution is in place, refining plants are being set up across the country(I've got two being set up within 125 miles of me). And it makes sense. Biodiesel is ninety percent less polluting than gas engines, and the waste products from its manufacture are glycerin, which could go into making soap, and water :shrug: Sounds great to me. It would also give our farmers a boost.

We also need to switch our electrical generation over to renewables, a combination of wind and solar. A 1991 DOE report found that there is enough havestable wind energy in three states, North Dakota, Kansas and Texas to fill all of our electrical needs, including the growth factor, through the year 2030. Not that I'm saying we should cover those states in wind turbines, but just to show you how abundant wind power is in this country. No nukes, no coal, no fossil fuels needed, just wind.

The sooner this country becomes energy self sufficient the better off we'll be. Alternatives like biodiesel, wind and solar power are off the shelf technologies that will help us achieve that goal. Past time we started using them, don't you think?
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  -$0.70/gallon to make homemade biodiesel, wow! NickB79  Aug-26-06 02:27 PM   #0 
  - 70 cents plus the cost to procure the oil...  HypnoToad   Aug-26-06 02:34 PM   #1 
  - 70 cents a gallon to produce sounds like gouging....  CanSocDem   Aug-26-06 02:43 PM   #3 
  - You also need methanol and lye as imputs, plus a small amount of  John Q. Citizen   Aug-26-06 03:03 PM   #5 
  - No, China was paying $2.19 back in March 2006  muriel_volestrangler   Aug-27-06 05:28 AM   #9 
     - I'd Pay That  ThomWV   Aug-27-06 06:24 AM   #13 
  - My neighbor makes it.  Jackpine Radical   Aug-26-06 02:39 PM   #2 
  - They already sell "white grease" or used fry oil on the Chicago  John Q. Citizen   Aug-26-06 02:58 PM   #4 
  - What's she gonna do when...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-26-06 04:18 PM   #6 
  - biodiesel isn't chicken fat, white grease, tallow, etc. Biodiesel won't  John Q. Citizen   Aug-26-06 06:11 PM   #8 
  - Bingo! One or two other little difficulties as well ...  ThomWV   Aug-27-06 05:52 AM   #10 
  - Then you start growing commercial quanties of biodiesel feedstock  MadHound   Aug-27-06 06:08 AM   #11 
     - I Just Read The Paper - What Undergrad Wrote That?  ThomWV   Aug-27-06 06:31 AM   #14 
        - That would be professor of physics at UNH Michael Briggs  MadHound   Aug-27-06 06:44 AM   #16 
  - Sustainable? OK, what would you propose? I think bio-diesel is  lectrobyte   Aug-27-06 10:51 AM   #20 
  - Good on him and good on her. but why so many want to find fault  madokie   Aug-26-06 04:29 PM   #7 
  - Because So Many Of Us Have The Habit Of Calling "Bullshit"  ThomWV   Aug-27-06 06:36 AM   #15 
     - it doesn't take long to paint something when you use such a large brush  madokie   Aug-27-06 06:49 AM   #17 
  - What about the cost of energy inputs...  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-27-06 06:22 AM   #12 
     - We can do it,,if we set our minds to it  focusfan   Aug-27-06 08:36 AM   #18 
     - Growing algae in wastewater treatment ponds costs next to nothing  MadHound   Aug-27-06 10:05 AM   #19 
 

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