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Thu Aug-24-06 02:16 PM
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| 5. Sen. Kerry wasn't promoted by the establishment early on in the campaign. |
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In fact they didn't really get on board until they figured out that Sen. Kerry was the *only* candidate left who could beat Gov. Dean.
The "establishment" was behind Sen. Lieberman for the most part. The DLC had more power then.
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| - Establishment Dems treat their party like a house in the fucking Hamptons |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 01:59 PM |
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a 'must read', IMO |
ixion |
Aug-24-06 02:04 PM |
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Nah, this article is mostly ignorant. (nt) |
w4rma |
Aug-24-06 02:18 PM |
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but, it's oh so much fun! |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 02:29 PM |
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huh... care to be more specific? |
ixion |
Aug-24-06 03:19 PM |
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If you're a "with the party or against us" guy, sure |
CollegeDUer |
Aug-24-06 03:22 PM |
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Horseshit from Matt - The party didn't get Kerry the money, they helped |
blm |
Aug-24-06 02:08 PM |
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blm....didn't Kerry end up with a 14 Million surplus? Which caused many |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 02:21 PM |
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That money came in around the time he HAD to transition from his own |
blm |
Aug-24-06 02:25 PM |
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Can you give me a "link" as to verification of that RULE Kerry had to |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 06:41 PM |
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Is this for REAL? Everyone knows that once a nominee accepts they can |
blm |
Aug-24-06 07:15 PM |
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I agree on Kerry. His ascendance was the voter's choice |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 02:25 PM |
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"...the Democratic Party has been operating for |
babylonsister |
Aug-24-06 02:08 PM |
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Oh thanks!!! |
MrPrax |
Aug-24-06 02:10 PM |
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Sen. Kerry wasn't promoted by the establishment early on in the campaign. |
w4rma |
Aug-24-06 02:16 PM |
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That isn't really true |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 02:36 PM |
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Don't underestimate the DLC's power. Or actually, don't underestimate |
w4rma |
Aug-24-06 02:51 PM |
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The DLC has very little power as a stand-alone organization |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 03:09 PM |
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DLC hired Carville and Begala to get Clinton Elected their "War Room" |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 07:16 PM |
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Please list the "many" who supported Kerry prior to the first primary |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-25-06 12:11 PM |
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I'm glad to see they treat their house so well. |
William769 |
Aug-24-06 02:18 PM |
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Proud to be the 5th rec, wish I could recommend 20 more times |
me b zola |
Aug-24-06 02:21 PM |
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I hate that guy, to be frank |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 02:24 PM |
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he is really strident. |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 02:28 PM |
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I have no problem with stridency |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 02:44 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Aug-24-06 02:30 PM |
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Rahm Emmanuel quote... ("an amoral, showboating cock.") & My Rant!! |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 02:34 PM |
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what DID Rahm Emmanuel mean by that quote about Sharpton? |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 02:44 PM |
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lol's..but at least Sharpton hasn't publically dissed grassroots, activist |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 02:56 PM |
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I found the complete interview |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 02:58 PM |
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Check Again.....I went to the article you link and here's the quote: |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 03:05 PM |
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Did you read what I wrote? |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 03:14 PM |
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what do you think he meant by that quote? |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 03:24 PM |
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Uh, how? |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 03:56 PM |
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good for you |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 04:15 PM |
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Well then...what do YOU think is the future of the Dem Party? |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 06:31 PM |
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How was it "edited out" when I just posted the direct quote from the |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 03:31 PM |
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We obviously have a misunderstanding |
DemPopulist |
Aug-24-06 03:55 PM |
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huh? Taibi's article quotes the line? I don't get it.....n/t |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 05:26 PM |
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"an essentially oligarchic system of government" like the rest of America |
kenny blankenship |
Aug-24-06 02:36 PM |
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Here's a point that has not been lost on many of us... |
me b zola |
Aug-24-06 02:36 PM |
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and I'll never forget Chuck Schumer's comment about Grassroots Activists |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 02:46 PM |
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Your headline is just a degree short of totally perfect. K&R n/t |
autorank |
Aug-24-06 02:41 PM |
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AMEN! Thank Gawd somebody finally said it out loud! |
Joanne98 |
Aug-24-06 02:49 PM |
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But in All Fairness... |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-24-06 02:57 PM |
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there is a timidity that has clearly cut off our opposition at the knees |
bigtree |
Aug-24-06 03:32 PM |
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Bravest of the brave! |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-24-06 03:56 PM |
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No, they haven't. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-25-06 12:44 PM |
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I do believe they will be aiming the guns |
dogday |
Aug-24-06 04:19 PM |
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As "OTT" as Matt Taibbi is....I'll Give a Kick for GRASSROOTS DEMS! |
KoKo01 |
Aug-24-06 05:33 PM |
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Would have been good if Taibbi had named NAMES. |
tomreedtoon |
Aug-25-06 12:29 AM |
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This is categorically bullshit. Taibbi is a joke of a "journalist" |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-25-06 12:14 PM |
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great post, WEL |
paulk |
Aug-25-06 12:31 PM |
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That's a scary damned generation |
sandnsea |
Aug-25-06 12:40 PM |
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"...it used the commercial media to enforce its policy positions..." |
Kurovski |
Aug-25-06 02:16 PM |
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Taibbi is far more correct than the Kerry Defenders |
Senator |
Aug-25-06 03:39 PM |
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