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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-22-06 12:49 PM
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35. Echostar has been granted a stay at this point...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/tech/article/0,27...

For you that want to sue Echostar, you are following the script that Murdoch wants you to. He wants to KILL Dish Network if he can't buy it. Ultimately the goal is to have a satellite communications monopoly. He's manipulating the system in his favor.

I think a lawsuit against TIVO for not protecting its patents against ALL satellite providers would also be in order. DirecTV has a newer line of DVRs that AREN'T TIVO DVR's too. WHY isn't Tivo suing DirecTV too? Maybe, just maybe, because DirecTV owns a big chunk of them?

For a patent infringement to be granted, you also have to show that you are protecting your patents against ALL infringement, not being selective on who you enforce it. Otherwise, courts may rule that since you've allowed other companies to violate it, you shouldn't be allowed to sue certain companies for violating it. I might expect Echostar to challenge this ruling based on that.

Check out this note about newer DVRs that DirecTV is coming out with that TIVO is NOT suing DirecTV over. DirecTV/Murdoch knows that once they've had TIVO do it's dirty work in destroying Dish Network, then it will basically move most of its customers over to its newer DVR systems that TIVO hasn't tried to sue them over yet because DirecTV still has offered some TIVO based systems it sells. Once Dish Network's out of the way, you know they'll kill Tivo too and have complete control over the satellite/DVR monopoly.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2006/04/directv-tivo-exten...
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  -Government says... Thou shalt not record Free Speech TV any more! calipendence  Aug-22-06 12:30 AM   #0 
  - bastids!!  Viva_La_Revolution   Aug-22-06 12:32 AM   #1 
  - Small towner here  KT2000   Aug-22-06 01:00 AM   #2 
  - Just get a tv-tuner card (ATI-Elite) and record whatever you want  Imagevision   Aug-22-06 11:28 AM   #27 
  - ahhh crap  AZDemDist6   Aug-22-06 01:38 AM   #3 
  - kick  The Sushi Bandit   Aug-22-06 03:40 AM   #4 
  - k&r. . . . . n/t  annabanana   Aug-22-06 04:48 AM   #5 
  - Murdoch rules...  Everybody   Aug-22-06 05:46 AM   #6 
  - Murdoch is not the problem here.  yibbehobba   Aug-22-06 05:57 AM   #7 
  - I don't see the how "no DVR = out of biz" for Dish.  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 08:11 AM   #8 
  - I agree  michreject   Aug-22-06 09:06 AM   #9 
  - It's not NEARLY the same as TiVo, but a nice thing. NT  NYCGirl   Aug-22-06 09:13 AM   #10 
     - From what I read, the Dish PVR ain't nothin like TiVo, neither!  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 11:19 AM   #19 
        - Yeah... TIVO's WORK. n/m  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 11:20 AM   #21 
  - I WILL switch.  Xithras   Aug-22-06 12:17 PM   #31 
     - Rupert Murdoch is counting on folks like you!  calipendence   Aug-22-06 12:27 PM   #32 
     - Well, it's DirectTV or Comcast.  Xithras   Aug-22-06 12:46 PM   #34 
     - If Dish can't have it's own PVR service but DirecTV can, that's a problem.  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:05 PM   #37 
     - DISH can have a PVR service.. just DON'T STEAL THE TECHNOLOGY..  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:40 PM   #48 
        - Then why isn't TIVO suing NDS foir stealing their technology?  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:56 PM   #55 
           - BECAUSE DIRECTV(Newscorp) OWN NDS!!!!!!  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 02:02 PM   #57 
              - When DirecTV first entered into partnership with NewsCorp...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 02:31 PM   #60 
     - Comcast is in the process of rolling out TIVO based DVR's...  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:42 PM   #49 
     - MURDOCH DOES NOT OWN TIVO.  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:39 PM   #47 
     - ER... yes you CAN hook a TiVo up to a Dish Receiver..  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:19 PM   #39 
     - Why should I be forced to buy both, and DirecTV customers not!  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:28 PM   #42 
        - PAY ATTENTION WHY DON"T YOU????  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:31 PM   #44 
        - Here's why (and a mutually beneficial resolution, if Tivo is smart)  Xithras   Aug-22-06 02:22 PM   #59 
           - I agree with this...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 02:42 PM   #62 
     - Do this, instead.  kgfnally   Aug-22-06 02:32 PM   #61 
  - SWEET JEEBUS PEOPLE! All is not a conspiracy...  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 09:51 AM   #11 
  - Yep, this is a non-issue  Texas Explorer   Aug-22-06 11:26 AM   #26 
  - Plus  PunkPop   Aug-22-06 01:39 PM   #46 
  - Where's Free Speech TV?  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:59 PM   #56 
  - Thanks for the rundown..  sendero   Aug-22-06 02:14 PM   #58 
  - What's so great about TiVo anyway?  electropop   Aug-22-06 10:34 AM   #12 
  - You're paying for the Guide data and the extra functionality ...  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 10:41 AM   #13 
  - I guess if I had time for much TV it'd be more important.  electropop   Aug-22-06 10:43 AM   #15 
     - That's the POINT... YOU make the schedule of what YOU want to watch..  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 10:48 AM   #16 
        - And you can  Jawja   Aug-22-06 11:28 AM   #28 
  - Pausing live TV. Never channel surfing again.  rinsd   Aug-22-06 11:09 AM   #17 
  - I have a DirecTivo. It's pretty great. Just type in your favorite actor  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 11:21 AM   #22 
  - Not the government, was a lawsuit filed by TIVO.  karlrschneider   Aug-22-06 10:43 AM   #14 
  - Just get a DVD-RW  Xenotime   Aug-22-06 11:14 AM   #18 
  - Not. Even. Close.  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 11:19 AM   #20 
     - Just get MythTV. Its free. http://www.mythtv.org/  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 11:23 AM   #24 
  - Well, I just have to give a big "fuck you" to Tivo, then!  EOO   Aug-22-06 11:22 AM   #23 
  - Ahh.. .so you support DISH stealing their technology ????  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 11:24 AM   #25 
  - Well, I don't support them aligning monetarily with DirecTV...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 11:52 AM   #29 
     - Exactly, I refuse to support any Murdoch-owned business  EOO   Aug-22-06 12:11 PM   #30 
     - GOOD. Murdoch DOES NOT OWN TIVO.  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:33 PM   #45 
     - You REALLY like to look under rocks don't You... you need some facts..  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:25 PM   #40 
  - Get mythtv (see above)  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 08:45 PM   #64 
  - I smell a customer class action lawsuit against Echostar as well.  Xithras   Aug-22-06 12:28 PM   #33 
  - Echostar has been granted a stay at this point...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 12:49 PM   #35 
     - I never said I wanted to sue them.  Xithras   Aug-22-06 01:16 PM   #38 
     - GHOD, you love to spew inaccurate information don't you???  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:27 PM   #41 
     - But they ARE selling NON TIVO DVRs too!  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:42 PM   #50 
        - SO WHAT?  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:46 PM   #52 
        - BTW.. Here's one you missed...  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:53 PM   #54 
     - How much does Murdoch own... 4%? nt  BlueEyedSon   Aug-22-06 08:46 PM   #65 
  - Clarence Thomas joins this media cabal effort to shut down Dish Network...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 12:59 PM   #36 
  - Oh. Brother.  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:30 PM   #43 
     - Umm.. DirecTV was the first "violator" of this...  calipendence   Aug-22-06 01:45 PM   #51 
        - Try getting out of market, distant locals from DirecTV now a days..  Rosco T.   Aug-22-06 01:48 PM   #53 
  - Bottom LIne - They stole the technology and they can't keep using it.  cyberpj   Aug-22-06 07:22 PM   #63 
  - There's been a stay, pending appeal.  Maat   Aug-22-06 11:39 PM   #66 
 

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