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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:46 PM
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142. Cesare had more class.
Both are bastards, though.

Excellent comparison, McCamy Taylor. It is said Karl Rove reads "The Prince" every year, believed to be based in part on the life of young Cesare. Your appreciation of history helps us all move toward a different -- and much better -- future.

Here's the past I fear we're repeating, starting with one guy I wished the late Simon Wiesenthal would have been able to bring to justice was Reinhard Gehlen. The record shows that particular investigation was stymied P.D.Q by Bush Family Evil Empire. The reason – they (the Secret Government) needed the NAZI spy in the new “Cold War” against the commie Soviets and Red Chinese.



Well, I would do whatever was needed to defend America. I believe, if needed, I would be willing to sacrifice my self in the defense of my country, the Constitution and We the People. I hope I would never, however, forgive an enemy who had killed millions of innocent people – including hundreds of thousands of my countrymen – in the name of fascism for "patriotism."

So, who was Gehlen? He was the German master spy who…



The Case of Nazis in the CIA

The Gehlen Org: From OSS to CIA


EXCERPT...

On April 1, 1945, a convoy of eleven trucks wound its way through Bavaria, traveling south from Berlin, away from the advancing Red Army who was at that moment conducting their own blitzkrieg through eastern Germany. Aboard the trucks were hand-picked German intelligence officers who guarded a very special cargo. Inside crates that had been carefully stacked and hidden under the canvas tops of the trucks were the most valued prizes of the head of German military intelligence: the files on Russia.

The purpose of the convoy was not to transport the documents to the Last Redoubt, but to remove them from harm's way altogether for use as future bargaining chips with the advancing Allies. For the files, which were the fruit of five years of intensive intelligence gathering on Russia, were now the personal property of a youthful 40 year-old general named Reinhard Gehlen. And with them, he planned on bargaining his way to a very special arrangement--with the Americans

SNIP...

At the same time, Gehlen's existence in Allied hands quite coincidentally became known to General "Wild Bill" Donovan, head of the OSS, and his station chief in Europe, Allen Dulles. In August, Gehlen and three assistants were covertly flown to Washington and secreted away at Camp David for interviews with both Military Intelligence and the OSS. Apparently the OSS offered the best deal, for within a eighteen months the Gehlen Org, resurrected from the original Nazi spy network, had been installed in West Germany to act as the eyes and ears of the newly-created CIA.

The story that Captain Bokor, using great foresight and planning, managed all of these feats of clandestine operations on his own is too incredible to be true. It is not probable that a company-grade officer would risk his career to protect a Nazi war criminal, or put himself personally in jeopardy by wantonly violating international agreements. In any normal case, such activity would earn him a courts martial. It is even more improbable that Gehlen would stumble into the one American in a thousand that would quickly see the value in what Gehlen purported to offer and immediately begin work to protect not only Gehlen, but his officers.

What is more believable is that Gehlen had made these arrangements far in advance. By using certain trusted contacts within the German High Command who had both pre-war and current business dealings across national boundaries, Gehlen had coordinated a deal with a specified contact within the American intelligence community. Namely Allen Dulles.

CONTINUED…

http://www.riflewarrior.com/case_of_nazis_in_the_cia.htm



So where does the BFEE fit in?

Follow the money… Prescott Bush’s business chum was Allen Dulles, the guy who one day would head of the CIA and later “serve” the country on the Warren Commission.




Sen. Prescott Bush (on the right) straightens out his young chum Sen. Tricky Dickie's hat.

Back to the subject: Here's the way the BFEE -- the Secret Government -- greased the way for Gehlen and his incoming NAZI horde...



Operation Paperclip Casefile

EXCERPT…

Convinced that German scientists could help America's postwar efforts, President Harry Truman agreed in September 1946 to authorize "Project Paperclip," a program to bring selected German scientists to work on America's behalf during the "Cold War"
However, Truman expressly excluded anyone found "to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Naziism or militarism."

The War Department's Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) conducted background investigations of the scientists. In February 1947, JIOA Director Bosquet Wev submitted the first set of scientists' dossiers to the State and Justice Departments for review.

The Dossiers were damning. Samauel Klaus, the State Departments representative on the JIOA board, claimed that all the scientists in this first batch were "ardent Nazis." Their visa requests were denied.

Wev was furious. He wrote a memo warning that "the best intrests of the United States have been subjugated to the efforts expended in 'beating a dead Nazi horse.'" He also declared that the return of these scientists to Germany, where they could be exploited by America's enemies, presented a "far greater security threat to this country than any former Nazi affiliations which they may have had or even any Nazi sympathies that they may still have."

When the JIOA formed to investigate the backgrounds and form dossiers on the Nazis, the Nazi Intelligence leader Reinhard Gehlen met with the CIA director Allen Dulles. Dulles and Gehlen hit it off immediatly. Gehlen was a master spy for the Nazis and had infilitrated Russia with his vast Nazi Intelligence network. Dulles promised Gehlen that his Intelligence unit was safe in the CIA.

CONTINUED...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Operation_Paperclip_file.html



The Dulles-Bush connection goes way back. Dulles and Prescott Bush worked together, along with Averell Harriman. So, today, it's not a stretch to see which families and organizations seem to have benefited the most in post-war America. Can you say "Military-Industrial Complex?"



Nazis and Bush family history:

Government investigated Bush family's financing of Hitler


By Carla Binion
December 21, 2000

This article on Nazis in the Republican party was originally published in Online Journal on 1/28/00. However, the following includes additional information regarding George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert (Bert) Walker, and the fact that the U. S. government investigated their financing of Adolf Hitler.

One book referenced here, Christopher Simpson's "Blowback," was praised by journalist Seymour Hersh as "the ultimate book about the worst kind of cold war thinking." Nora Levin, Director, Holocaust Archive, Gratz College, said "The full story of this country's shameful, cynical collaboration with Nazi criminals has not been told until now with the publication of Simpson's book." Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman said, 'Blowback' is a must read for anyone who wants to understand postwar policy on Nazi war criminals and the cold war."

In another Simpson book, "The Splendid Blonde Beast," the author wrote about George H. W. Bush's father, Prescott, and his maternal grandfather, George Herbert Walker. Both Bert Walker and Prescott Bush were powerful financial supporters of Adolf Hitler.

Walker was president of Union Banking Corporation, a firm that traded with Germany and helped German industrialists consolidate Hitler's political power. Simpson says Union Banking became a Nazi money-laundering machine.

Walker helped take over North American operations of Hamburg-Amerika Line, a shipping line and cover for I. G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the U. S. Hamburg-Amerika smuggled in German agents, and brought in money for bribing American politicians to support Hitler. A 1934 congressional investigation showed Hamburg-Amerika subsidized Nazi propaganda efforts in the U. S.

CONTINUED…

http://www.govsux.com/nazisandbushfamilyhistory.html



Now what’s the problem with using some ex-NAZIs in the fight against the commies? After all, the Soviets and the Red Chinese don’t play fair and would stab us in the back in a minute.

Well, it turns out that the Gehlen Org wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. In fact, the Soviets had infiltrated it with their own spies. So, when the US forgave all the war criminals and let them into the country to spy on the commies, they also brought in a bunch of Soviet spies. No wonder James Jesus Angleton worried so much about moles in the CIA.



Intelligence / Agencies / Counterintelligence

EXCERPT…

Trento, Joseph J. The Secret History of the CIA. Roseville CA: Prima Publishing (Forum), 2001. 542 pages.

Joseph Trento has been an investigative reporter on the national security beat since 1968. He had some scoops in the 1970s, and kept at it through the 1980s and 1990s by cultivating insiders such as James Angleton, William Corson, and Robert Crowley. Through them he managed to interview dozens of other retired spooks. Now he is president of the Public Education Center in Washington DC.
This book covers roughly three intermingled topics. The first is the CIA's early years at the Berlin base, where high-flying corruption and Soviet penetration was rampant, and even seemed to help one's CIA career. William Harvey was a key player here. The second involves the migration of some of these players to Vietnam, and also to Chile. The primary source on Chile is Edward Korry, whose story is told here in some detail. The third aspect of this book is the mole wars, where Angleton plays a major role. Trento makes a strong case that Igor Orlov and George Weisz deserve top billing as moles, but is less convincing when he describes Angleton's theories about Oswald. In the end, the point of the book -- that the Soviets consistently ran circles around a corrupted and incompetent CIA -- is rock solid. It wasn't our self-serving Keystone Cops who won the Cold War; it was simply that our arms race outlasted the Soviet economy.

SOURCE: http://www.namebase.org/books30.html



Of course, not all American presidents since World War II have been touched by these super-duper-supermen the same way. Eisenhower was the one who actually warned us about the “Military-Industrial Complex” and John F. Kennedy actually tried to do something about them -- in addition to his work enlightening the masses through public education, the arts and good government. We all know how that story ended...





Gen. Charles Willoughby

The Nazi Connection to the John F. Kennedy Assassination

by Mae Brussell (from The Rebel, November 22, 1983)

1940-1945: The Nazi Connection to Dallas:General Reinhard Gehlen


SNIP…

"Sir" Charles Willoughby -- a Franco-German-American

He was a bull of a man who spoke with a German accent, wore a custom-tailored general's uniform and affected a monocle. A fellow officer in the U.S. army under his true name of Adolph Charles Weidenbach, born in Heidelberg, March 8, 1892. But by the time he became Douglas MacArthur's chief of intelligence for the war in the Pacific, he was Major General Charles A. Willoughby. Behind his back he was derisively tagged "Sir Charles."

For a man of such Teutonic traits it was odd that Willoughby preferred his fascism with a Spanish accent. But this was an accident of geography. While serving as a military attache in Ecuador, he had received a decoration from Mussolini's government -- the Order of Saints Maurizio and Lazzaro. After delivering an impassioned paean to Spanish dictator Generalissimo Francisco Franco at a lunch in Madrid, he was toasted by the secretary general of the Falangist Party, "I am happy to know a fellow Falangist and reactionary.

MacArthur's pre-war headquarters were in the Philippines, whose commerce was dominated by resident Spaniards. The Daddy Warbucks of this crowd was Andres Soriano, who owned an early-day conglomerate of airlines, mines, breweries ("Of course!") and American distributorships. During the Spanish Civil War Soriano was one of Franco's principal money-bags. When the Rising Sun flag was raised over the Philippines Soriano fled to Washington to become finance minister of the government-in-exile. But there was such a fuss over his fascist reputation that he flew off to Australia to become a colonel on MacArthur’s staff.

Willoughby accompanied the Supreme Commander to Tokyo for the occupation of Japan. His preferences remained the same; when military police shook down his hotel looking for a fugitive, they found Willoughby at dinner with the stranded Italian fascist ambassador to Japan and members of his staff. He became a heavy-handed censor, suppressing unfavorable news to the States. He delighted in falsely labeling correspondents who defied him as "Communists," a tactic Senator McCarthy would adopt with enthusiasm. But the general's priority project was a dressed-up history of the Pacific War in which MacArthur would be the towering hero. Willoughby brought in Japanese military brass for a view from the enemy side, a move that may have had an ulterior motive. The possibility existed that Willoughby was down-playing Japanese war crimes so that the perpetrators could be protected for use against the Soviets later. This was happening in Germany where the top nazis were writing the history of Malmedy. The tight security in which Willoughby wrapped the project only adds to this impression. One woman had a passkey, the wife of Dr. Mitsutaro Araki, a former exchange lecturer in Germany, who was closely tied in with high nazis in Tokyo and the Tojo clique.

Willoughby harbored another secret that only came to light last year. During the war, the Japanese conducted germ warfare experiments with human beings as guinea pigs (at least 3,000 died, including an undetermined number of captured U.S. military). The Pentagon decided that the biological research might prove handy against the Russians, and the Japanese responsible for the experiments were granted immunity from prosecution in return for their laboratory records. On December 12, 1947 the Pentagon acknowledged the "wholehearted cooperation" of Willoughby in arranging the examination of the "human pathological material which had been transferred to Japan from the biological warfare installations."

As his final public gesture to Franco, Willoughby lobbied the U.S. Congress in August, 1952 to authorize $100 million for the anti-Communist dictator's needs. Then he settled down in the U.S. to do battle with the domestic enemy. As Sir Charles and his right-wing allies saw it, Marxism wasn't the real enemy, the Liberals were.

CONTINUED…

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection%20to%20JFK%20Assass.html






So, what’s all this ancient history have to do with me, today?

Well, these same NAZIs are the ones who’ve helped make America into the Fourth Reich.

Don’t believe me?

Ask yourself: “What are we doing in Iraq?” and you’ll see what I mean and how we got there.





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