| 179. I saw Toobin on CNN responding to this, but I heard it differently. |
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Does that wording even make sense?  Check my post 177 in this thread to see what I reported as my understanding of Toobin's comments. I'll admit he certainly didn't seem to think it would all shake out with an upholding of Judge Taylor's ruling, but the details are where the devil often is and the details on this one are manifest and many.... BTW, I'd like to hear what Jonathan Turley has to say about it too. |
| -!BREAKING: FED DISTRICT COURT RULES NSA WIRETAPPING UNCONSTITUTIONAL! |
kpete |
Aug-17-06 11:07 AM |
#0 |
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Try this link instead. |
Nickster |
Aug-17-06 11:08 AM |
#1 |
| -
Yes! |
Botany |
Aug-17-06 11:09 AM |
#2 |
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Oh yeah, they gotta love |
zidzi |
Aug-17-06 02:13 PM |
#94 |
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Great news, but I'm sure they'll take it to the Supremes |
SharonRB |
Aug-17-06 11:09 AM |
#3 |
| -
They need a basis to appeal. |
hootinholler |
Aug-17-06 01:52 PM |
#84 |
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Their grounds for appeal is that the program is constitutional... |
MrCoffee |
Aug-17-06 05:27 PM |
#141 |
| -
They'll appeal. |
Laelth |
Aug-17-06 09:10 PM |
#165 |
| -
Why? |
John Gauger |
Aug-17-06 04:13 PM |
#125 |
| -
Exactly! "So it's unconstitutional--so what!" they'll say. |
ktowntennesseedem |
Aug-17-06 05:33 PM |
#142 |
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I think that BushCo WANTS the case to get kicked to the Supremes.... |
Drum |
Aug-18-06 01:19 AM |
#170 |
| -
SCOTUS will affirm the district court at least 6-3 |
MrCoffee |
Aug-18-06 09:49 AM |
#185 |
| -
check your link kpete |
seemslikeadream |
Aug-17-06 11:09 AM |
#4 |
| -
Busted link, here's a better one |
WilliamPitt |
Aug-17-06 11:10 AM |
#5 |
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The link does not work for me. |
EST |
Aug-17-06 11:10 AM |
#6 |
| -
how does one spell "Y I P P E E "? |
antifaschits |
Aug-17-06 11:11 AM |
#7 |
| -
It's also a sad day for our country... |
file83 |
Aug-17-06 02:33 PM |
#106 |
| -
QUICK!! More Jon Benet Updates Or People Might Actually Hear About This! |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 11:11 AM |
#8 |
| -
Yep, I just turned on cnn to see if they were covering the real news... |
me b zola |
Aug-17-06 11:19 AM |
#23 |
| -
Frist raises JonBenet from the dead... |
wryter2000 |
Aug-17-06 02:17 PM |
#97 |
| -
Gonzo should be booted for failing to comply with the judges ruling |
Imagevision |
Aug-17-06 03:23 PM |
#120 |
| -
This just in!!! Jon Benet is still dead!!! |
ktowntennesseedem |
Aug-17-06 05:36 PM |
#143 |
| -
Stupid activist judges |
kurth |
Aug-17-06 11:12 AM |
#9 |
| -
Can we put some people in Jail, NOW? |
Nimrod2005 |
Aug-17-06 11:12 AM |
#10 |
| -
Starting with the judge. |
Bleachers7 |
Aug-17-06 12:38 PM |
#70 |
| -
Oh those "Activist" judges! Why do they support terrorism? |
devilgrrl |
Aug-17-06 11:13 AM |
#11 |
| -
Woo Hoo! |
TheGoldenRule |
Aug-17-06 11:13 AM |
#12 |
| -
Don't get too happy. This is just the first step. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-17-06 11:13 AM |
#13 |
| -
If it says they need to stop... it would be illegal to continue |
Oreo |
Aug-17-06 11:17 AM |
#20 |
| -
It's definitely a good sign, but legality has never stopped Bush before. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-17-06 11:23 AM |
#27 |
| -
actually it is a little better than that. |
spooky3 |
Aug-17-06 11:19 AM |
#24 |
| -
True. But there are conservative district courts as well. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-17-06 11:26 AM |
#28 |
| -
I agree that people should not get too excited at this |
spooky3 |
Aug-17-06 11:42 AM |
#40 |
| -
Will bush care I wonder? |
Philosoraptor |
Aug-17-06 11:14 AM |
#14 |
| -
you wonder? |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Aug-17-06 01:55 PM |
#87 |
| -
Kick this until November!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Imagevision |
Aug-17-06 02:34 PM |
#107 |
| -
Oh thank goodness SOMEONE remembers the Constitution! |
GloriaSmith |
Aug-17-06 11:14 AM |
#15 |
| -
Why do they hate Bush's Freedom to hate our Freedom? |
paparush |
Aug-17-06 11:15 AM |
#16 |
| -
That is freakin' hilarious! |
cool user name |
Aug-18-06 10:27 AM |
#187 |
| -
Wait a minute.....doesn't doing something UnConstitutional while President |
Nickster |
Aug-17-06 11:16 AM |
#17 |
| -
Actually, no. Truman's attempt to nationalize the steel industry |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-17-06 08:24 PM |
#159 |
| -
Since the court is in Detroit... |
NewJeffCT |
Aug-17-06 11:16 AM |
#18 |
| -
FUCKING JONBENET PRESS CONF JUST IN TIME |
mikelgb |
Aug-17-06 11:16 AM |
#19 |
| -
Judge: Bush Surveillance Program Violates Constitution |
chat_noir |
Aug-17-06 11:18 AM |
#21 |
| -
I don't think the Supremes will back Bush on this one.... |
rateyes |
Aug-17-06 11:18 AM |
#22 |
| -
Hamdan undermines the executive case on this I thought. The |
caligirl |
Aug-17-06 11:23 AM |
#25 |
| -
Scalia will go along with * |
wryter2000 |
Aug-17-06 02:21 PM |
#98 |
| -
I wonder how much influence US v. Reynolds had? |
sofa king |
Aug-17-06 11:23 AM |
#26 |
| -
From the link to Judge Taylor’s judgment and order for permanent injunction |
Emit |
Aug-17-06 06:19 PM |
#150 |
| -
Brilliant tactical move by the ACLU |
MrCoffee |
Aug-18-06 01:14 PM |
#189 |
| -
More on Judge Anna Diggs Taylor |
Oreo |
Aug-17-06 11:26 AM |
#29 |
| -
Jimmy Carter...the President who keeps on giving! n/t |
brer cat |
Aug-17-06 05:05 PM |
#137 |
| -
Yes, Virginia... There IS a Santa Claus! |
Patsy Stone |
Aug-17-06 11:27 AM |
#30 |
| -
Attorney General Gonzalez should be fired ASAP!! |
Imagevision |
Aug-17-06 02:07 PM |
#92 |
| -
Impeachment for George and Dick |
Patsy Stone |
Aug-17-06 03:05 PM |
#118 |
| -
Here Comes The Judge! Go! YES! |
goclark |
Aug-17-06 03:33 PM |
#121 |
| -
In yo face, fascists |
warrens |
Aug-17-06 11:28 AM |
#31 |
| -
UN. CON. STITUTIONAL. |
derby378 |
Aug-17-06 11:29 AM |
#32 |
| -
But will the President listen? |
originalpckelly |
Aug-17-06 11:29 AM |
#33 |
| -
I refuse to read this.."its real new"s and not about Jon Benet.. |
flyarm |
Aug-17-06 11:34 AM |
#34 |
| -
cnn talking about it now |
me b zola |
Aug-17-06 11:35 AM |
#35 |
| -
oops, back to JBR |
me b zola |
Aug-17-06 11:43 AM |
#41 |
| -
watch as CNN becomes the all Jon Benet all the time Network |
Supersedeas |
Aug-17-06 11:36 AM |
#36 |
| -
at least MSNBC is covering news (jab, jab) ..n/t |
AntiFascist |
Aug-17-06 04:09 PM |
#124 |
| -
Great news! But, will it survive an appeal to the repuke Supreme Court? |
Jim__ |
Aug-17-06 11:39 AM |
#37 |
| -
this is the 2nd slap on the WH--recall the Gitmo ruling!! |
rodeodance |
Aug-17-06 11:39 AM |
#38 |
| -
cnn saying the WH will fire back saying they need the tools to get the |
rodeodance |
Aug-17-06 11:40 AM |
#39 |
| -
Greatest 'tool' is common sense (and they ain't got none in Shrubland) nt |
EVDebs |
Aug-17-06 01:30 PM |
#81 |
| -
I thought the tools were already in the WH |
Olney Blue |
Aug-18-06 07:11 AM |
#176 |
| -
I just hope |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 11:46 AM |
#42 |
| -
*Sigh* That's A Load Of Crap |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 11:50 AM |
#44 |
| -
Yeah I know |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 12:02 PM |
#47 |
| -
Oy |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 12:32 PM |
#63 |
| -
I can't agree with that |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 12:45 PM |
#73 |
| -
Have You Ever Read The Constitution? |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 01:31 PM |
#82 |
| -
Easy now |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 01:55 PM |
#86 |
| -
But You're Wrong |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 02:07 PM |
#91 |
| -
You miss my point |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 02:25 PM |
#101 |
| -
That's Total Bullshit |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 03:19 PM |
#119 |
| -
strawman |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 04:02 PM |
#123 |
| -
LOL! Umm, The Strawman Is Yours |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 04:25 PM |
#127 |
| -
Ok |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 04:38 PM |
#131 |
| -
"I can't see how this can be true." Oh Brother! |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 04:42 PM |
#132 |
| -
Yeah you're right |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 04:45 PM |
#134 |
| -
No Problem |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 04:47 PM |
#135 |
| -
Well |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 04:56 PM |
#136 |
| -
Heh |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 06:09 PM |
#147 |
| -
He was saying that people will simply violate the Constitution |
FiveGoodMen |
Aug-17-06 07:33 PM |
#156 |
| -
Heh |
Beetwasher |
Aug-17-06 09:42 PM |
#167 |
| -
At the risk of getting my butt in a crack... :-) |
krispos42 |
Aug-18-06 03:45 AM |
#174 |
| -
Just to let you know, |
quantessd |
Aug-17-06 02:06 PM |
#90 |
| -
Uh... |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 02:32 PM |
#105 |
| -
Welcome to DU |
quantessd |
Aug-17-06 04:33 PM |
#128 |
| -
Thanks |
ryanus |
Aug-17-06 04:45 PM |
#133 |
| -
Welcome! |
sofa king |
Aug-17-06 06:41 PM |
#153 |
| -
Welcome to DU (nt) |
stepnw1f |
Aug-18-06 09:23 AM |
#181 |
| -
Good Job everyone at DU |
rabbit2484 |
Aug-17-06 11:47 AM |
#43 |
| -
pushback has started, FINALLY |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-17-06 11:51 AM |
#45 |
| -
No Shit. The Courts Did What The Democrats Were Scared To Do. |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-17-06 11:57 AM |
#46 |
| -
Yes, Virginia, there IS an independent judiciary. |
bleever |
Aug-17-06 12:10 PM |
#48 |
| -
Hey! |
Patsy Stone |
Aug-17-06 03:03 PM |
#117 |
| -
Every single one of you |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-17-06 12:12 PM |
#49 |
| -
In response to my own post... |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-17-06 12:21 PM |
#55 |
| -
Why do people continue to make the argument that are rights |
OregonDem |
Aug-17-06 12:14 PM |
#50 |
| -
Bush's reply? |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-17-06 12:15 PM |
#51 |
| -
Could be, but his actual response was... |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-17-06 12:23 PM |
#56 |
| -
oh, and kick a whole bunch of folks off the minimum wage guarantee |
librechik |
Aug-17-06 12:54 PM |
#74 |
| -
WooHoo! |
MATTMAN |
Aug-17-06 12:15 PM |
#52 |
| -
Remember we are talking about WARRANTLESS wiretapping |
El Fuego |
Aug-17-06 12:17 PM |
#53 |
| -
Right, like Feingold said Sunday, there's NO REASON they |
johnaries |
Aug-17-06 12:33 PM |
#64 |
| -
The wheeles of justice ,,, exceedingly slow, but sometimes we win one. |
mom cat |
Aug-17-06 12:19 PM |
#54 |
| -
A woman judge shoved it in his face !!!!! |
Az_lefty |
Aug-17-06 12:25 PM |
#57 |
| -
I have one question... |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-17-06 12:25 PM |
#58 |
| -
FUCK! |
Texas Explorer |
Aug-17-06 12:27 PM |
#59 |
| -
If that's the best they can do, they KNOW the judge is right. nt |
blonndee |
Aug-17-06 12:37 PM |
#68 |
| -
not just any Carter appointee |
yodermon |
Aug-17-06 01:29 PM |
#80 |
| -
Well, that was pretty predictable. |
Raksha |
Aug-17-06 05:49 PM |
#145 |
| -
Freepers are upset that a judge stood up to fascism, |
OregonDem |
Aug-17-06 12:27 PM |
#60 |
| -
FREEPERS ARE NAZI'S!! |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-17-06 12:36 PM |
#66 |
| -
Glory, Glory Hallelujah! |
wicket |
Aug-17-06 12:28 PM |
#61 |
| -
WhooHoo. n/t |
myrna minx |
Aug-17-06 12:29 PM |
#62 |
| -
I just heard this on NPR. |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-17-06 12:35 PM |
#65 |
| -
Like courts are going to stop them.... |
LeftHander |
Aug-17-06 12:37 PM |
#67 |
| -
Judges rule Constitution is constitutional Woohoo, whatta surprise!!!!! |
confludemocrat |
Aug-17-06 12:38 PM |
#69 |
| -
WAHOO!!!!! Score one for the people!!!!!! n/t |
negativenihil |
Aug-17-06 12:38 PM |
#71 |
| -
CHIMPEACH! |
Octafish |
Aug-17-06 12:45 PM |
#72 |
| -
So when will we be hearing of a foiled... |
negativenihil |
Aug-17-06 12:58 PM |
#75 |
| -
Can't never trust a Yale grad, can you Bushie? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Aug-17-06 12:59 PM |
#76 |
| -
I think the response on FR |
Heywoodj |
Aug-17-06 01:08 PM |
#77 |
| -
Today was a down day for me until now. |
Freeusfromthechurch |
Aug-17-06 01:09 PM |
#78 |
| -
"I do solemnly swear.." |
threadkillaz |
Aug-17-06 01:26 PM |
#79 |
| -
DIDN'T COUNT? |
d---mad2 |
Aug-18-06 01:25 AM |
#171 |
| -
Glenn Greewald's take on the decision can be found here |
Dudley_DUright |
Aug-17-06 01:31 PM |
#83 |
| -
Bush doesn't follow the same laws as The People. |
Rex |
Aug-17-06 01:54 PM |
#85 |
| -
Bush must preserve and protect and uphold the constitution - it's what |
Imagevision |
Aug-17-06 02:00 PM |
#88 |
| -
Suppose he'll try to do some variation of the signing statements |
Skidmore |
Aug-17-06 02:03 PM |
#89 |
| -
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWW Best News In 6 Years |
ThomWV |
Aug-17-06 02:08 PM |
#93 |
| -
Busholini knew that he and NSA were violating the Law. |
Disturbed |
Aug-17-06 02:28 PM |
#104 |
| -
Faux News crawler |
wryter2000 |
Aug-17-06 02:15 PM |
#95 |
| -
Fox News of course shows a crappy pic of Taylor n/t |
krispos42 |
Aug-17-06 02:17 PM |
#96 |
| -
I'll bet Cheney and his boys are working furiously to discredit the judge |
young_at_heart |
Aug-17-06 02:24 PM |
#99 |
| -
They had a full smear on Rash Limbaugh |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-17-06 06:37 PM |
#151 |
| -
If * doesn't stop, does that mean he is breaking the law? |
Xenotime |
Aug-17-06 02:25 PM |
#100 |
| -
Jeff Toobin explained why the wiretapping would not stop -- YET. |
vickitulsa |
Aug-18-06 08:32 AM |
#177 |
| -
I don't see how SCOTUS can just not take the case |
Jim4Wes |
Aug-18-06 08:54 AM |
#180 |
| -
They do refuse to hear a lot of cases, |
vickitulsa |
Aug-18-06 09:36 AM |
#182 |
| -
damn its good to see some payback |
D23MIURG23 |
Aug-17-06 02:26 PM |
#102 |
| -
Time for Rove to S M E A R this judge....5...4...3...2... |
file83 |
Aug-17-06 02:27 PM |
#103 |
| -
Damn activist judges! |
racaulk |
Aug-17-06 02:34 PM |
#108 |
| -
This whole miserable excuse of a "Presidency" |
Uncle Joe |
Aug-17-06 02:37 PM |
#109 |
| -
Freeper responses: |
Popol Vuh |
Aug-17-06 02:37 PM |
#110 |
| -
Dearbornistan |
Rex |
Aug-17-06 02:40 PM |
#111 |
| -
Republicans saying ruling will endanger more American lives. |
Imagevision |
Aug-17-06 03:37 PM |
#122 |
| -
WTF? |
racaulk |
Aug-18-06 01:08 PM |
#188 |
| -
This is the best news in a long time! |
Fiendish Thingy |
Aug-17-06 02:49 PM |
#112 |
| -
This is why just ONE MORE BUSHIE JUDGE ON THE SCOTUS would be the end. |
Nothing Without Hope |
Aug-17-06 02:51 PM |
#113 |
| -
The Yahoo story is being freeped... |
Fiendish Thingy |
Aug-17-06 02:51 PM |
#114 |
| -
Big deal, JON BENET RAMSEY! OMG, Shiney thing! |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-17-06 02:54 PM |
#115 |
| -
Judge rules what? |
Blutodog |
Aug-17-06 02:56 PM |
#116 |
| -
TERRA TERRA TERRA In Virginia!!!! |
dapper |
Aug-17-06 04:15 PM |
#126 |
| -
The GOP nazis are pissing their pants over this! |
Independent_Liberal |
Aug-17-06 04:37 PM |
#129 |
| -
Of course the white house disagrees...surprise surprise...but |
twaddler01 |
Aug-17-06 04:37 PM |
#130 |
| -
kick |
countryjake |
Aug-17-06 05:14 PM |
#138 |
| -
John Dean - where are you? |
IWantAChange |
Aug-17-06 05:17 PM |
#139 |
| -
I expect a FindLaw essay from him soon, and appearances |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-17-06 08:26 PM |
#160 |
| -
This was one of three headlines in our evening news. |
BelgianMadCow |
Aug-17-06 05:26 PM |
#140 |
| -
WARRANTLESS Wiretapping !!! NOT wiretapping itself. n/t |
patricia92243 |
Aug-17-06 05:47 PM |
#144 |
| -
So when the decider is convicted; |
greiner3 |
Aug-17-06 06:08 PM |
#146 |
| -
I Wish We Could Hear What Jonathan Turley has To Say |
Dinger |
Aug-17-06 06:14 PM |
#148 |
| -
I saw Toobin on CNN responding to this, but I heard it differently. |
vickitulsa |
Aug-18-06 08:46 AM |
#179 |
| -
I'm sure it'll be overturned, on some lame-ass grounds |
aein |
Aug-17-06 06:19 PM |
#149 |
| -
The ACLU's standing argument is the big vulnerability... |
MrCoffee |
Aug-17-06 06:40 PM |
#152 |
| -
This is a BIG WIN |
Hailtothechimp |
Aug-17-06 06:44 PM |
#154 |
| -
Does that mean they can't spy on Democrats or diplomats anymore, either? |
TheBorealAvenger |
Aug-17-06 06:48 PM |
#155 |
| -
TO THE HAGUE!!! TO THE HAGUE!!! TO THE HAGUE!!! |
Roland99 |
Aug-17-06 07:36 PM |
#157 |
| -
I weep for this justice. |
BullGooseLoony |
Aug-17-06 07:46 PM |
#158 |
| -
But maybe so temporary... I don't trust the Robert's Court to let |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-17-06 08:28 PM |
#161 |
| -
I'm very interested in the implications. Will this stop Bush? |
electron_blue |
Aug-17-06 08:31 PM |
#162 |
| -
Is he now gona break loose into bushitler gone wild? |
lonestarnot |
Aug-17-06 08:35 PM |
#163 |
| -
Can we impeach now? |
MadJohnShaft |
Aug-17-06 08:42 PM |
#164 |
| -
Ahhhh....(nt) |
stepnw1f |
Aug-17-06 09:23 PM |
#166 |
| -
see this : Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald |
flyarm |
Aug-17-06 09:51 PM |
#168 |
| -
Can someone please explain the Specter bill regarding wiretaps? |
sofedupwithbush |
Aug-18-06 02:11 AM |
#173 |
| -
tactfully fighting * here, |
dweller |
Aug-18-06 12:08 AM |
#169 |
| -
Great post, kpete. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-18-06 01:55 AM |
#172 |
| -
Judge Anna Diggs Taylor deserves our thanks |
what now toons |
Aug-18-06 04:45 AM |
#175 |
| -
thanks for the hat tip |
kpete |
Aug-18-06 08:34 AM |
#178 |
| -
With due respect. |
cool user name |
Aug-18-06 09:38 AM |
#183 |
| -
Castigating the Judge |
UncleTomsEvilTwin |
Aug-18-06 08:15 PM |
#190 |
| -
Gotta love this comment from the link: |
cool user name |
Aug-18-06 09:47 AM |
#184 |
| -
Another LIBBBERALL activist judge trying to change our traditions |
brg5001 |
Aug-18-06 10:26 AM |
#186 |
| -
Bush told to appeal - then keep it in appeals court until 2009 |
Imagevision |
Aug-18-06 08:20 PM |
#191 |
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