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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 10:30 AM
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44. There is no reason Gays shouldn't be allowed to serve

The whole situation is beyond ridiculous. Gays have always been in the military. Why we continue to cater to homophobic assholes is beyond me. Why it's even an issue is beyond me. Evidently it needs to be explained that being gay is not an just as act of sex. Goddam.

My daughter served for nearly 9 years and never had a problem with the gays in the military. In fact she had more of a problem with HETEROSEXUAL males and-- sometimes females--being inappropriate, or just plain shitheads.

She tells stories of very racist white young men being thrown together with the black young men in the military. There is no time or room for fucked up attitudes like that. She watched the generational, ingrained racism fade into the background as camaraderie and understanding between human beings developed in her unit.

The same thing would happen with Gays. Does anyone care who someone is with, or what color they are if they are going to be the one to save thier ass? Fuck no. Not when it gets down to life and death, not when they're going through an experience together that no one else is going to understand.
It's a bullshit destructive attitude that the world needed to outgrow yesterday. God some people are dumbassess.

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  -Do you feel the ban on gays in the U.S. military SHOULD be changed? cboy4  Aug-14-06 03:35 AM   #0 
  - As a veteran currently on active duty, I don't have a problem with it...  ALiberalSailor   Aug-14-06 03:44 AM   #1 
  - That's cool to hear about your viewpoint. But why is it that "many, many"  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:55 AM   #2 
  - Well, my philosophy on this is not a popular one, nor one that...  ALiberalSailor   Aug-14-06 04:41 AM   #11 
     - We all have our own values, but that doesn't mean we should be able to  cboy4   Aug-14-06 05:12 AM   #17 
  - isn't it tiresome, always having to cater to the bigots?  Skittles   Aug-14-06 04:34 AM   #8 
  - what kind of asswipes think gays should not serve ?  Skittles   Aug-14-06 04:08 AM   #3 
  - !  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:11 AM   #4 
  - I'm a veteran, I served with plenty of gay folk  Skittles   Aug-14-06 04:29 AM   #6 
     - I am gay and served proudly.  im10ashus   Aug-15-06 03:30 PM   #117 
  - The kind that won't out themselves n/t  Nicole   Aug-14-06 04:32 AM   #7 
  - see response #8  Skittles   Aug-14-06 04:34 AM   #9 
     - Very well said  Nicole   Aug-14-06 04:39 AM   #10 
     - I'm sick of it Nicole, just sick of it  Skittles   Aug-14-06 04:51 AM   #13 
        - I'm sick of it too  Nicole   Aug-14-06 05:06 AM   #15 
           - apparently du also has a big tent  orleans   Aug-14-06 10:38 PM   #103 
              - No tent should be big enough to allow room for bigotry and the opposition  cboy4   Aug-15-06 02:13 AM   #104 
     - Yeah, I want to hear from those folks  theHandpuppet   Aug-14-06 05:27 AM   #20 
        - I'm still waiting  Skittles   Aug-14-06 05:42 AM   #21 
           - Skittles...  foreigncorrespondent   Aug-14-06 07:14 AM   #28 
  - I agree -- freaking cowardly homophobes  LostinVA   Aug-14-06 08:58 AM   #36 
  - They're easy to out.  Kerrytravelers   Aug-14-06 09:24 AM   #42 
  - the freak republic is FILLED with cowards  Skittles   Aug-14-06 03:54 PM   #57 
  - Quite a poll... almost 10% trolls! nt  Jed Dilligan   Aug-14-06 11:46 AM   #46 
  - Gays SHOULD be allowed to serve but.....  Nicole   Aug-14-06 04:26 AM   #5 
  - I totally understand you point. However, it's not just signing up to go to  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:41 AM   #12 
  - You're a much better person than I am  Nicole   Aug-14-06 05:01 AM   #14 
  - Nope....I'm not better than you :)  cboy4   Aug-14-06 05:16 AM   #18 
  - I agree with your point, but...  Jamastiene   Aug-14-06 05:09 AM   #16 
     - I know......even though you and I can't understand why anyone in their  cboy4   Aug-14-06 05:25 AM   #19 
        - If you really want them to respond...  weeksbr1   Aug-14-06 05:48 AM   #23 
           - Why don't you think I want them to respond? And I've not called any  cboy4   Aug-14-06 05:59 AM   #24 
           - Huh?  Jamastiene   Aug-14-06 06:53 AM   #25 
           - I do want them to respond -=- and they are bigots if they voted this way  LostinVA   Aug-14-06 09:02 AM   #38 
           - we already knew there was never a chance the little bastards would emerge  Skittles   Aug-14-06 03:59 PM   #59 
           - So why don't you want gays in the military?  haruka3_2000   Aug-14-06 05:03 PM   #74 
  - Exactly.  guinivere   Aug-14-06 07:28 PM   #91 
  - 3 voted against.  xchrom   Aug-14-06 05:44 AM   #22 
  - 5 unclear on the concept of human rights and equality.  Warren Stupidity   Aug-14-06 07:03 AM   #26 
  - Of course not!  foreigncorrespondent   Aug-14-06 07:13 AM   #27 
  - Personally, I don't see why they can't serve, but I do have a question  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-14-06 07:14 AM   #29 
  - There are fraternizing rules for superior officers  mitchtv   Aug-14-06 04:22 PM   #63 
  - Two in my son's company got married as  Breeze54   Aug-14-06 05:16 PM   #75 
  - Sure doesn't make sense why they'd allow heterosexuals to  The Backlash Cometh   Aug-14-06 06:50 PM   #84 
     - I think it should be equal.  Breeze54   Aug-14-06 10:25 PM   #102 
  - No different than I feel about 2 soldiers of opposite sex  donheld   Aug-15-06 07:00 AM   #113 
  - The hypocritical line of reason.  AndyA   Aug-14-06 07:35 AM   #30 
  - If they want to serve,  bigwillq   Aug-14-06 07:50 AM   #31 
  - If there is a Draft reinstituted, America will be swamped in gays  opihimoimoi   Aug-14-06 07:50 AM   #32 
  - It will, for the most part, be easy to tell who the fakes are.......  Kingshakabobo   Aug-14-06 06:31 PM   #83 
     - LOL,,,,,Yellow Elephants indeed....  opihimoimoi   Aug-15-06 03:04 AM   #107 
     - LOL!!! Good point  cboy4   Aug-15-06 05:05 AM   #111 
  - Yet another example of why I LOVE THE BOSS  libnnc   Aug-14-06 09:02 AM   #37 
  - And I love you Dear  BOSSHOG   Aug-14-06 10:52 AM   #45 
     - I agree. My dear friend Em thinks it's funny that some  guinivere   Aug-14-06 07:45 PM   #95 
  - Exactly! I'm supposed to pay taxes to pay for a new Humvee that  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:34 PM   #51 
  - The ban on gays in the military is just ridiculous. My bet is that  Arkansas Granny   Aug-14-06 08:25 AM   #34 
  - lol! Like THAT'S ever stopped America before!  BlooInBloo   Aug-14-06 08:27 AM   #35 
  - We all know who the 9 voters are.  LincolnMcGrath   Aug-14-06 09:11 AM   #39 
  - Thanks Lincoln for writing! Always wonderful to hear from a  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:30 PM   #48 
  - Republican arguments are bullshit  zcflint09   Aug-14-06 09:20 AM   #40 
  - EVERYONE should serve.  TahitiNut   Aug-14-06 09:20 AM   #41 
  - I personally think that gay people should be given the same rights  madokie   Aug-14-06 09:27 AM   #43 
  - There is no reason Gays shouldn't be allowed to serve  ismnotwasm   Aug-14-06 10:30 AM   #44 
  - Huh come those who want gays BANNED can't even type a sentence about  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:28 PM   #47 
  - Because maybe there AREN'T ANY  sandnsea   Aug-14-06 03:47 PM   #56 
     - I think it's just the Ku Klux Klan syndrome.  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:55 PM   #58 
        - Nah,  sandnsea   Aug-14-06 04:07 PM   #62 
           - Oh I don't know.....It wouldn't surprise me that in a community as large  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:27 PM   #64 
  - Of course they should be allowed to serve. But why in God's name would  impeachdubya   Aug-14-06 03:31 PM   #49 
  - I would hope nobody would want sign up to participate in Bush's  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:38 PM   #53 
     - Absolutely.  impeachdubya   Aug-14-06 03:42 PM   #54 
  - They should be allowed to serve but they shouldn't do it.  MrSlayer   Aug-14-06 03:32 PM   #50 
  - Your point is very well taken. One of the things I said earlier is that  cboy4   Aug-14-06 03:42 PM   #55 
  - Yep...of course they should be...  SaveElmer   Aug-14-06 03:37 PM   #52 
  - Apparently it does require too much thought to explain why gays should  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:03 PM   #60 
     - Seriously, I can think of two reasons  One_Life_To_Give   Aug-14-06 04:48 PM   #70 
        - Just to add to what you said...  haruka3_2000   Aug-14-06 05:01 PM   #73 
  - Gays should be banned!  One_Life_To_Give   Aug-14-06 04:07 PM   #61 
  - Oh, nice stereotyping, you jerk  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:29 PM   #66 
  - Yes, Uncle Sam is ignoring a tremendous amount of talent.  Rex   Aug-14-06 04:28 PM   #65 
  - Oh, who cares what you think? :-)  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:35 PM   #67 
     - LOL!  Rex   Aug-14-06 05:32 PM   #78 
        - The train is a little gay, but what do you expect?? ;)  cboy4   Aug-14-06 06:55 PM   #87 
  - I voted yes  Nutmegger   Aug-14-06 04:37 PM   #68 
  - You voted "yes" to what?? I don't get it. Sorry if I'm a little slow  cboy4   Aug-14-06 04:55 PM   #71 
  - Here's a little something special for the homophobes that say "NO"...  devilgrrl   Aug-14-06 04:43 PM   #69 
  - Har!  Warren Stupidity   Aug-14-06 05:53 PM   #79 
  - That's disgusting!!!  cboy4   Aug-14-06 06:52 PM   #86 
  - Imho, there isn't any good reason for them being left out  Breeze54   Aug-14-06 04:58 PM   #72 
  - Former Army here, never understood throwing out qualified people  Nickster   Aug-14-06 05:22 PM   #76 
  - you know it Nickster  Skittles   Aug-14-06 06:01 PM   #80 
  - You the man Nickster!!!  cboy4   Aug-14-06 06:50 PM   #85 
  - Alexander the Great was one of the most famous military leaders in history  CrushTheDLC   Aug-14-06 05:29 PM   #77 
  - Big fag here.  im10ashus   Aug-15-06 03:44 PM   #118 
  - Of course. The full and equal participation in all aspects  pinto   Aug-14-06 06:04 PM   #81 
  - Where are the DU 13? n/t  greguganus   Aug-14-06 06:20 PM   #82 
  - Make that 14 as of 5:01 PDT. I think they're trying to organize to stop a  cboy4   Aug-14-06 07:01 PM   #88 
     - It's 15 now.  Jamastiene   Aug-15-06 02:38 AM   #106 
  - For their own  raysr   Aug-14-06 07:15 PM   #89 
  - Could you explain what you mean that "for their own safety they  cboy4   Aug-14-06 07:26 PM   #90 
  - That's right. I feel that  raysr   Aug-15-06 08:25 PM   #129 
  - Yes, it's safer not to join the military, but somebody has to do it.  haruka3_2000   Aug-14-06 07:42 PM   #94 
     - I don't feel anyone should  raysr   Aug-15-06 08:31 PM   #130 
  - The military needs all the cannon fodder it can get.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-14-06 07:34 PM   #92 
  - Apparently they do "give a rip," otherwise there would  cboy4   Aug-14-06 07:42 PM   #93 
  - They'll get over it when they run out of bodies.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-14-06 07:46 PM   #96 
     - Why do you think they're going to run out of bodies? I mean, it's not  cboy4   Aug-14-06 07:57 PM   #97 
        - Things are going great for the morticians and gravediggers.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-14-06 08:16 PM   #99 
  - Actually they keep kicking gays who can interpret  Jamastiene   Aug-15-06 02:28 AM   #105 
  - Do you think the 8% is correct for all DUers across the board? n/t  greguganus   Aug-14-06 08:13 PM   #98 
  - In the wars to come...  ChipperbackDemocrat   Aug-14-06 08:22 PM   #100 
  - Are you asking me if I think roughly 8 percent of all DUers are  cboy4   Aug-14-06 08:26 PM   #101 
  - If this war goes on much longer, the whole MI community will become gay  jmowreader   Aug-15-06 03:34 AM   #108 
  - Hey bud, thanks for your post.....but most of all, thank you for what you  cboy4   Aug-15-06 04:37 AM   #110 
     - Cock smokers and muffler divers...  jmowreader   Aug-15-06 03:27 PM   #115 
  - Ever hear of the Spartans?  Cobalt-60   Aug-15-06 04:19 AM   #109 
  - Looks like 15 asses need kicked  donheld   Aug-15-06 06:58 AM   #112 
  - Of course it should be changed.  Spider Jerusalem   Aug-15-06 07:11 AM   #114 
  - Interesting article my friend. Thank you for sharing it  cboy4   Aug-15-06 07:07 PM   #123 
  - WOW!  im10ashus   Aug-15-06 03:28 PM   #116 
  - What does sexual orientation have to do with killing and dying...  porphyrian   Aug-15-06 03:50 PM   #119 
  - It's kinda ironic. The wingnuts would love to see gay people dead . . .  cboy4   Aug-15-06 05:36 PM   #120 
  - It doesn't matter if you are gay or not...  Xenotime   Aug-15-06 06:11 PM   #121 
  - 16 no's huh? Hey, that's cool -- but why can't just one...ONE of you  cboy4   Aug-15-06 07:04 PM   #122 
  - Americans should be allowed in the military (and immigrants too)  Bucky   Aug-15-06 07:08 PM   #124 
  - 16 votes  Texasgal   Aug-15-06 07:28 PM   #125 
  - The military should not be allowed to conduct witchhunts,  wiley   Aug-15-06 08:06 PM   #126 
  - I'm for a ban on gays in the military.  Bornaginhooligan   Aug-15-06 08:08 PM   #127 
     - LOL.......good point!  cboy4   Aug-15-06 08:21 PM   #128 

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