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| 85. You can't defeat a tactic but... |
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... regarding the extreme RW bastardization of Islam, the first step would be to admit to and understand the West's own involvement in creating and encouraging this form of religious extremism. Greg Palast makes some very interesting points about the fall of Mossadegh in Iran (how declassified documents demonstrate the CIA's role in convincing conservative Islamic groups that democracy is "unislamic" when there are Islamic concepts that encourage democracy) and Big Oil's role in shaping the Middle East (listen to Palast explain the creation of the Iraqi state). Watch Palast here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-36410438307779... Additionally, I highly recommend a series of five articles by Brian Whitaker, Middle East Editor of the Guardian, on "Democracy & the Middle East." In each of his articles, he tackles a topic that needs to be solved for democracy to work. The Colonialist legacy, the problem of sitting on a valuable resource, Israel/Palestine, and the bastardization of Islam. http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,... |
| -How would you recommend we stop terrorism? |
The Straight Story |
Aug-10-06 07:22 PM |
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Funny, we can't even stop US gangs, why |
JAYJDF |
Aug-10-06 07:24 PM |
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Live by the golden rule |
C_U_L8R |
Aug-10-06 07:24 PM |
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Spot on. |
Blackthorn |
Aug-10-06 08:00 PM |
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99% of the terrorism is fabricated by Western "intelligence" agencies |
respublicus |
Aug-10-06 08:46 PM |
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Damn, I want to know what you're smoking. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-10-06 11:12 PM |
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For starters I wouldn't let them get away with it for FIVE FUCKING |
rzemanfl |
Aug-10-06 07:25 PM |
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Stop washing your hair until Bin Laden is caught. |
rug |
Aug-10-06 07:26 PM |
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Aug-10-06 07:28 PM |
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Did I just warp into |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-10-06 07:31 PM |
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Regardless, do you think it will work? n/t |
fuzzypolitics |
Aug-10-06 07:41 PM |
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How can you see the screen with that hood over your head? |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 07:43 PM |
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I cut holes in the front :) |
fuzzypolitics |
Aug-10-06 07:44 PM |
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For a nice person like you - anytime. |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 07:47 PM |
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Wow. That would require opposable thumbs. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-10-06 07:48 PM |
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Thumbs? That's plural. I manage with just one... |
fuzzypolitics |
Aug-10-06 07:50 PM |
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Ha ha. Fuzzy.blog. Fat chance pal. I wouldn't waste a click. |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 07:55 PM |
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No one's asking you to. It's still a free country n/t |
fuzzypolitics |
Aug-10-06 07:58 PM |
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heh heh heh, you might be wrong there. |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 08:48 PM |
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Dubya, is that you? |
Der Blaue Engel |
Aug-10-06 07:36 PM |
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Don't tax the man. He's on vacashun. |
sfexpat2000 |
Aug-10-06 07:43 PM |
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and what "Muslim terrorists" have we "caught," exactly? |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-10-06 07:44 PM |
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What about the Christian Terrorists? |
Wheezy |
Aug-10-06 07:46 PM |
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gay porn mags :) (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Aug-10-06 08:05 PM |
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That's much funnier. :) n/t |
Wheezy |
Aug-10-06 09:12 PM |
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OK....... |
FearofFutility |
Aug-10-06 08:04 PM |
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I always miss the good stuff. |
Blue State Native |
Aug-10-06 08:35 PM |
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make it a law enforcement priority |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:28 PM |
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A winner. Thank you for your participation. Give this person |
4MoronicYears |
Aug-10-06 07:31 PM |
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Send the police after them? |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:34 PM |
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with the bush cabal in charge |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:40 PM |
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Surely you don't think 9-11 was planned after Bush came to office? |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:44 PM |
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yeah. uh huh. |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:48 PM |
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your solution? |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:04 PM |
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I don't really have one. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:06 PM |
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what about christian fundamentalism? |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:10 PM |
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Indeed, fundamentalism is bad in all its stripes. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:14 PM |
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"Terrorism=Islamic Fundamentalism" is too easy. |
Hatalles |
Aug-10-06 08:14 PM |
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But that's not what I said. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 11:18 PM |
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This might actually work :) How far-sighted and thoughtful - nice n/t |
Sinti |
Aug-10-06 07:38 PM |
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i didn't know osama bin laden was poor or disenfranchised |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:44 PM |
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OBL flew one of the 9-11 planes? |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:50 PM |
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he provided funds and training |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:51 PM |
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why do you assume the "poor" in question have to be the actors? |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:56 PM |
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my argument is stop blaming the poor |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 08:01 PM |
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I did not blame the poor |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:03 PM |
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It's not a matter of saying that poverty isn't |
igil |
Aug-10-06 08:23 PM |
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BTW, he is not as rich as most believe |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:59 PM |
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do you think these things would not work? |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:00 PM |
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You hit the nail right on the head. |
AusGail |
Aug-10-06 07:49 PM |
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knock on wood that this first step |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 07:57 PM |
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McVeigh was fucked up when he came home from the Gulf War |
Selatius |
Aug-10-06 07:32 PM |
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as we all are, |
madokie |
Aug-10-06 07:34 PM |
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Thats just it, you can't stop terrorists. |
mrcheerful |
Aug-10-06 07:33 PM |
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I agree. |
bigwillq |
Aug-10-06 07:36 PM |
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But even with the 'war on drugs' the spraying that causes lose of crops, |
tnlefty |
Aug-10-06 08:03 PM |
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We can live by the Golden Rule |
bigwillq |
Aug-10-06 08:17 PM |
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Good points. |
Realityhack |
Aug-10-06 07:48 PM |
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You are right, you cant stop terrorists.... |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-10-06 07:51 PM |
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It goes for anyone that replaces bombs for words. |
mrcheerful |
Aug-10-06 08:00 PM |
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good writing. |
uppityperson |
Aug-10-06 10:41 PM |
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Terror has existed thru history |
Rick Myers |
Aug-10-06 07:33 PM |
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Talk to them and find out the reason for hating us and then work on that |
madokie |
Aug-10-06 07:33 PM |
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Let's say a big reason is that your liberalism.... |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:36 PM |
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as if that is a reason to kill, I don't think so. try again |
madokie |
Aug-10-06 08:12 PM |
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It may not be to you, but it sure is to some fundamentalists. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 09:38 PM |
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Terrorism is a method - you will never wipe it out completely |
Sinti |
Aug-10-06 07:35 PM |
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Terrorism in some form has been around forever. |
ocelot |
Aug-10-06 07:36 PM |
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I don't see it as appeasement |
OnionPatch |
Aug-10-06 11:19 PM |
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All you need is love |
Jeanette in FL |
Aug-10-06 07:37 PM |
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Use honest public diplomacy |
sweetheart |
Aug-10-06 07:37 PM |
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This means sanctions: |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:39 PM |
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we need a stick |
sweetheart |
Aug-10-06 07:53 PM |
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Imagine that. |
Jeanette in FL |
Aug-10-06 07:48 PM |
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having to believe |
sweetheart |
Aug-10-06 08:06 PM |
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Aug-10-06 07:39 PM |
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You're suggesting death squads. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:40 PM |
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I was thinking more of total liquidation squads |
Poppyseedman |
Aug-10-06 07:47 PM |
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Works for me... n/t |
fuzzypolitics |
Aug-10-06 07:43 PM |
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oh right, continue the ridiculous so-called war on terror |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-10-06 07:49 PM |
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No, terrorist use terror as a tool to instill fear into a population. |
Poppyseedman |
Aug-10-06 07:57 PM |
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your post is a joke right? |
marions ghost |
Aug-10-06 07:54 PM |
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No, I'm dead serious |
Poppyseedman |
Aug-10-06 08:04 PM |
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killers are killers. Their causes may differ and they may use different |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 08:31 PM |
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You are so wrong, poppyseedman |
davekriss |
Aug-10-06 09:30 PM |
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stop fighting an asymmetric war with the same 'jolly green giant' that... |
bridgit |
Aug-10-06 07:39 PM |
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It's very easy. Stop oppressing people and the oppressed |
Cleita |
Aug-10-06 07:40 PM |
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There has to be economic opportunity and security. Social |
bluerum |
Aug-10-06 07:40 PM |
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Kill everybody who isn't rich? |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-10-06 07:41 PM |
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Osama Bin Ladin is a billionaire. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:46 PM |
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Aug-10-06 07:47 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-10-06 07:50 PM |
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osama is not a billionaire |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:01 PM |
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Fine. Then counter my assertion without smearing me, if you would. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:05 PM |
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I hope no one here is a fucking freeper |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:07 PM |
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lol. Ditto. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:15 PM |
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well said. |
leftofthedial |
Aug-10-06 08:34 PM |
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His family is.... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-10-06 07:48 PM |
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That sounds like an argument for economic globalisation. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:52 PM |
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I'm a Socialist, So kill me. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-10-06 07:58 PM |
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Well, I have a hard time differentiating between a socialist.. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:03 PM |
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Actually, neo-liberals are the proponents... |
davekriss |
Aug-10-06 09:46 PM |
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You do know that most terrorists come from upper class families didn't you |
mrcheerful |
Aug-10-06 08:11 PM |
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Do you have a link to that... |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-10-06 08:20 PM |
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It was on a PBS show about the ME. |
mrcheerful |
Aug-10-06 08:24 PM |
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That is not true |
davekriss |
Aug-10-06 10:17 PM |
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It was on one of the PBS programs abut the middle east. |
mrcheerful |
Aug-11-06 01:41 AM |
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You CANT stop terrorism. |
Realityhack |
Aug-10-06 07:41 PM |
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investigate, arrest, prosecute, convict, strict sentencing |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:42 PM |
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We did that in 1993. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 07:45 PM |
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so your answer is to give up and say "oh woe" |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:53 PM |
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By all means, investigate, try and convict. |
cigsandcoffee |
Aug-10-06 08:00 PM |
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What is terrorism? Who are the terrorists? |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-10-06 07:43 PM |
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Well, I think that may qualify |
The Straight Story |
Aug-10-06 07:49 PM |
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What about the man who was photographed being forced to give oral sex... |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-10-06 08:07 PM |
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If you were raped, who would you kill? |
The Straight Story |
Aug-11-06 01:06 AM |
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So by that standard |
Sinti |
Aug-10-06 09:47 PM |
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By the standard the poster uses my father is a terrorist |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-10-06 10:18 PM |
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War is terror - at least for those caught in it. Your father was doing |
Sinti |
Aug-10-06 10:21 PM |
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"Punishing by proxy as it were" |
davekriss |
Aug-10-06 10:40 PM |
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The sooner we all learn the truth of your words the better off we will be |
NNN0LHI |
Aug-10-06 11:38 PM |
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as noted below, see my other post on this: |
The Straight Story |
Aug-11-06 01:09 AM |
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See my other post on this: |
The Straight Story |
Aug-11-06 01:09 AM |
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Good post, straight |
davekriss |
Aug-11-06 07:21 PM |
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Then the Israelis are guilty of terrorism by your definition...right??? |
U4ikLefty |
Aug-11-06 01:27 AM |
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revenge seekers are pre meditated murderers for sure |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:49 PM |
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A few hundred 50-megatonne bombs. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-10-06 07:44 PM |
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If I was "God". I would |
wurzel |
Aug-10-06 07:45 PM |
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Why do you dismiss the most common sense, wisest, best answers? |
Peace Patriot |
Aug-10-06 07:51 PM |
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well let me explain it to you this way |
pitohui |
Aug-10-06 07:58 PM |
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End poverty and ignorance. |
porphyrian |
Aug-10-06 07:51 PM |
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Stop Meddling in other Countries |
stepnw1f |
Aug-10-06 07:52 PM |
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Ask the IRA |
savemefromdumbya |
Aug-10-06 07:52 PM |
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Stop calling them terrorists and call them what they are - criminals. |
Old and In the Way |
Aug-10-06 07:53 PM |
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You can't defeat a tactic but... |
Hatalles |
Aug-10-06 08:01 PM |
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one more recommendation |
ptolle |
Aug-10-06 11:03 PM |
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And another... |
countryjake |
Aug-11-06 01:57 AM |
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MAKE ECONOMIC OPPRESSION, ANYWHERE, A FELONY!! |
Just Me |
Aug-10-06 08:01 PM |
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Here's my plan. |
readmoreoften |
Aug-10-06 08:04 PM |
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Excellent plan |
B Calm |
Aug-10-06 08:08 PM |
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Terrorism is murder |
dmesg |
Aug-10-06 08:08 PM |
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Thanks to all for replies so far |
The Straight Story |
Aug-10-06 08:10 PM |
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Please look into the Palast vid and Whitaker articles I posted... |
Hatalles |
Aug-10-06 08:18 PM |
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They don't hate our freedoms, they just hate. We need to stop hatred. |
originalpckelly |
Aug-10-06 08:34 PM |
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who are 'they'??? many of 'them' are 'us' if |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-10-06 10:04 PM |
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You can't get rid of terrorism. |
mmonk |
Aug-10-06 08:53 PM |
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^^^ |
mystique |
Aug-10-06 08:58 PM |
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There are some loons for which no |
igil |
Aug-10-06 08:59 PM |
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Stop funding right-wing terrorist nations and allowing them free rein |
LaPera |
Aug-10-06 09:40 PM |
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the same way we stop death- |
Bluerthanblue |
Aug-10-06 09:50 PM |
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We get our troops out of their countries, stop bombing their people, |
leesa |
Aug-10-06 09:58 PM |
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It doesn't stop, but it does grow or shrink in intensity |
Protagoras |
Aug-10-06 10:03 PM |
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I would make it my goal to find Osama Bin Laden and I mean |
Rex |
Aug-10-06 10:23 PM |
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Diplomacy. |
JackBeck |
Aug-10-06 10:25 PM |
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We can't stop it but we can lessen the existence of it by |
AZBlue |
Aug-10-06 10:28 PM |
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1. Creat a viable Palestinian state. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-10-06 11:23 PM |
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All religious extremism is problematic |
fujiyama |
Aug-10-06 11:30 PM |
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Stop looking at the middle east through the eyes of Israel. Broker |
whutgives |
Aug-10-06 11:35 PM |
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Yeah, a lot of those people who want to kill other people are |
treestar |
Aug-10-06 11:47 PM |
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That is fine and dandy |
The Straight Story |
Aug-11-06 01:16 AM |
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A genuinely sovereign and genuinely independent state of Palestine |
Douglas Carpenter |
Aug-10-06 11:54 PM |
#151 |
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The world will never be completely free of terrorism |
me b zola |
Aug-11-06 12:52 AM |
#152 |
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You don't. You reduce it. |
eridani |
Aug-11-06 03:43 AM |
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