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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:02 PM
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28. Here's where we again get into the difference between a 'right' and
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 10:04 PM by TahitiNut
... an entitlement. The only person with a 'right' to know a person's medical condition is the person. Others may be entitled (i.e. lawful access) to know by virtue of their role in providing effective and safe care for the person, or by virtue of a Durable Power of Attorney or other grant (under law) of such access.

Again, 'rights' exist no matter what the law says or how large the police force becomes. Rights are inalienable. Infringements on rights do not eliminate the existence of those rights. An entitlement, on the other hand, requires the force of the state (e.g. law coupled with police powers) to exist.

Just MHO - IANAL. :shrug:
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  -regarding illnesses who has a right to know? RGBolen  Aug-07-06 08:19 PM   #0 
  - I don't like editing the poll answers even before voting  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 08:21 PM   #1 
  - A right? No one, but if you keep it from a spouse that's dangerous  Gormy Cuss   Aug-07-06 08:23 PM   #2 
  - It doesn't affect your relationship if your spouse/SO considers  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 08:24 PM   #3 
  - It affects your spouse if you have an illness that will have a negative  Gormy Cuss   Aug-07-06 09:49 PM   #25 
     - you do not give up any control over your body or health by  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 09:51 PM   #26 
        - No, but you have entered into a legal agreement to act in accord  Gormy Cuss   Aug-07-06 09:59 PM   #27 
           - our "marital contract" as many is amended by ourselves regarding  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 10:03 PM   #29 
              - Your marital contract had better be amended in writing  Gormy Cuss   Aug-07-06 10:16 PM   #30 
                 - my spouse doesn't have any such right  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 10:21 PM   #31 
                    - .  fudge stripe cookays   Aug-08-06 05:28 AM   #35 
                       - She has all the rights of a citizen, most people dread making end of life  RGBolen   Aug-08-06 08:22 AM   #37 
  - how can you not tell your employer, they know  MissWaverly   Aug-07-06 08:24 PM   #4 
     - Not all do. If you're covered through a spouse's plan, for example.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-07-06 08:33 PM   #6 
        - well, that's true, but with the high cost of care most could not  MissWaverly   Aug-07-06 08:52 PM   #12 
  - I just miss the days when you need a license to practice medicine.  DanCa   Aug-07-06 08:25 PM   #5 
  - No one has a "right" to know  salvorhardin   Aug-07-06 08:34 PM   #7 
  - There's only rare circumstances where anyone else has a "right"  pinto   Aug-07-06 08:44 PM   #8 
  - This was kind of getting at the people who think they have a right  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 08:47 PM   #9 
     - I know. Sorry. The simple answer is no. You own your health  pinto   Aug-07-06 08:51 PM   #11 
  - I have a hard time understanding your question  tyedyeto   Aug-07-06 08:47 PM   #10 
  - She obviously is allowing you to know such information  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 08:52 PM   #13 
     - So, your poll is flawed since it doesn't have a...  tyedyeto   Aug-07-06 08:56 PM   #15 
        - The person has given you the right to know information and act on  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 08:58 PM   #16 
           - No, it only says spouse or S/O  tyedyeto   Aug-07-06 09:04 PM   #17 
              - I did add people to one choice in the first post.  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 09:17 PM   #18 
                 - It still does not say:  tyedyeto   Aug-07-06 09:20 PM   #19 
                    - no, the poll is about someone who doesn't want someone to know something  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 09:23 PM   #20 
                       - No! Your poll states "Who has a "right" to know?"  tyedyeto   Aug-07-06 09:28 PM   #22 
                          - You don't have a right to know, she has GIVEN you that right  RGBolen   Aug-07-06 09:31 PM   #24 
  - Your sex partner if it's an STD.  Crunchy Frog   Aug-07-06 08:54 PM   #14 
  - Depends, are you contagious?  Susang   Aug-07-06 09:27 PM   #21 
  - You.  two gun sid   Aug-07-06 09:29 PM   #23 
  - Here's where we again get into the difference between a 'right' and  TahitiNut   Aug-07-06 10:02 PM   #28 
  - I agree TN  Ravenseye   Aug-08-06 10:46 AM   #43 
  - I would wonder what kind of relationship you would have with your spouse  eyesroll   Aug-07-06 10:22 PM   #32 
  - A little disturbing, isn't it?  Susang   Aug-07-06 11:19 PM   #34 
  - Keep This In Mind -.....  Ragazz68   Aug-07-06 10:29 PM   #33 
  - A better question is who gets to decide which course of treatment you take  DanCa   Aug-08-06 05:37 AM   #36 
  - The consensus is: No one has a RIGHT but YOU, but it would seem common  Mayberry Machiavelli   Aug-08-06 08:37 AM   #38 
  - It's probably better that..  fudge stripe cookays   Aug-08-06 09:23 AM   #40 
  - What incident inspired this lovely poll?  Bridget Burke   Aug-08-06 08:45 AM   #39 
  - a friend of my wife's found out that her husband has cancer and  RGBolen   Aug-08-06 10:39 AM   #41 
     - Your wife's friend will have her whole life affected by the cancer.  Bridget Burke   Aug-08-06 10:46 AM   #42 
        - I understand she was upset, both over his health condition  RGBolen   Aug-08-06 10:48 AM   #44 
           - So what's the deal? Guy was going to have surgery and chemo and tell his  Mayberry Machiavelli   Aug-08-06 10:44 PM   #46 
  - If it is a highly contagious disease...  Nederland   Aug-08-06 10:52 AM   #45 
 

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