Odin2005
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Mon Aug-07-06 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #18 |
| 31. You're expecting the nucleophobes to have logic? |
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The word "radiation" srikes fear into people more then any other enviromental hazard as a result of the nuclear arms race, hence people act as if it is qualitatively different then any other hazard.
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| -Nuclear near disaster in Sweden |
greenman3610 |
Aug-06-06 10:10 PM |
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Shit! n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Aug-06-06 10:27 PM |
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WHOAH!!! |
lovuian |
Aug-06-06 11:21 PM |
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One more scenario that |
blogslut |
Aug-06-06 11:31 PM |
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Yes, and the fact that many of the rivers used to cool the reactors |
Lindacooks |
Aug-06-06 11:39 PM |
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No to nukes! |
longship |
Aug-07-06 01:01 AM |
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Issues with spent fuel? |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 04:51 AM |
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Nobody said it's better. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 10:30 AM |
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I understand your concerns, but I don't agree. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 11:18 AM |
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You're expecting the nucleophobes to have logic? |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 12:40 PM |
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Excuse me? |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 02:53 PM |
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I understand that you view this as a personal and emotional issue. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 07:48 AM |
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we CAN reduce the nuclear waste problem dramatically |
index555 |
Aug-08-06 12:52 AM |
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Reprocessing is uneconomic, dirty and dangerous. |
jpak |
Aug-08-06 11:17 AM |
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The thing is... |
Codeblue |
Aug-08-06 01:02 AM |
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I agree, but excess CO2 will be in the atmosphere for over 100.000 years |
Jeroen |
Aug-07-06 12:13 PM |
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Precisely why... |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 01:04 PM |
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And you think three MILLION years is better? |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 02:55 PM |
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No, but I believe that we have to reduce CO2 emmissions now |
Jeroen |
Aug-07-06 05:00 PM |
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I believe that too! |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 05:05 PM |
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The last few nuclear power plants actually built in the US |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 05:13 PM |
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Thanks for that info! |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 09:44 PM |
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Hmm... |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 07:49 AM |
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That was the end result of economies of scale |
jpak |
Aug-08-06 10:56 AM |
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I guess you are right. Nuclear is dangerous and has longterm problems |
Jeroen |
Aug-07-06 05:27 PM |
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Thanks, Jeroen. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 09:54 PM |
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yikes! |
index555 |
Aug-07-06 11:21 PM |
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And entirely unnecessary. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 10:07 AM |
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Yucca Mountain will cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 02:14 PM |
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Thank you. You're right. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 02:56 PM |
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That's what I'm saying! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 04:19 PM |
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and they had Dick Cheney's Energy Task Force too |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 06:13 PM |
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Yes, it sure is. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 09:54 PM |
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The results of global warming will bring down Western Civilization. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 06:33 PM |
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And after the fall of Western Civilization who would take care |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 06:43 PM |
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Ludicrous response |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 02:23 PM |
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Forsmark is 60 miles north of Stockholm |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-06-06 11:43 PM |
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I keep hitting the Recommend button but it only registers once. |
Poll_Blind |
Aug-06-06 11:46 PM |
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Rec'd |
there-s a |
Aug-07-06 04:10 AM |
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K&R.. n/t |
converted_democrat |
Aug-07-06 04:17 AM |
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Do I trust Republicans to run a nuclear reactor? No. |
w4rma |
Aug-07-06 03:12 AM |
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Another excellent reason to just say no to nukes! n/t |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 02:25 PM |
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Yes, we read here in Europe at the time (two days later) |
Ghost Dog |
Aug-07-06 05:11 AM |
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More info for those interested |
Stockholm |
Aug-07-06 05:31 AM |
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from the article you posted... |
marions ghost |
Aug-07-06 07:20 AM |
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I'd like to hear the responses from the pro-nuclear crowd here at DU.... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-07-06 10:36 AM |
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OK, I'll give it a shot. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 11:16 AM |
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How about anti fossil and nuke? |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 11:22 AM |
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Let me be more specific. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 11:45 AM |
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Well then let's put our eggs into several different |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 11:59 AM |
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Fools who think wind and solar will save everything... |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 12:14 PM |
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nothing saves everything... n/t |
druidity33 |
Aug-07-06 12:42 PM |
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LOL, and those who think our current energy production model |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 12:58 PM |
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I never said I wanted nuclear only. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 01:17 PM |
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Sorry, but from the tone of your posts, it was sounding like |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 01:23 PM |
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Excellent post! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 03:10 PM |
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22 states currently have Renewable Portfolio Standards |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 01:28 PM |
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How about the fantasy of risk-free nuclear power? |
Ignis |
Aug-07-06 02:16 PM |
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not entirely risk-free but far better than what's current |
index555 |
Aug-08-06 04:06 AM |
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Spent fuel can be reprocessed multiple times. |
Massacure |
Aug-08-06 08:56 AM |
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As opposed to pro-nuke apologists that tell us there's nothing wrong... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-07-06 02:26 PM |
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How about pro-actually-having-energy? |
JVS |
Aug-07-06 09:46 PM |
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How many people CAN nuclear power plants kill? |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 02:58 PM |
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This incident, was the only level 2 INES incident in the history of |
NNadir |
Aug-07-06 11:28 AM |
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Trouble is "one bad incident" is one too many |
podnoi |
Aug-07-06 11:32 AM |
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Aug-07-06 11:44 AM |
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Bingo! |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 12:34 PM |
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Chernobyl vs. Minamata |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 01:51 PM |
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LOL! |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 09:51 PM |
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Again, you are caught up in binary thinking |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 01:04 PM |
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You can't get all energy entirely from renewables. |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 01:19 PM |
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Nonsense |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 01:43 PM |
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Oh really? |
NNadir |
Aug-07-06 01:21 PM |
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OK oh so knowledgable one |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 02:18 PM |
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Aug-07-06 02:57 PM |
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The 129I, 131I, 90Sr and 137Cs produced by the so-called Oklo reactor were |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 03:17 PM |
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Geez, and you're calling me out for emoting? |
MadHound |
Aug-07-06 03:43 PM |
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Snake oil! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 04:24 PM |
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The US is limited in its uranium supplies |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 02:25 PM |
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Step away from the Kool-Aid! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 03:16 PM |
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Let's see...um...why do I think that...hmmm...gee...well... |
NNadir |
Aug-07-06 03:39 PM |
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If you think we know all there is to know about renewable |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 04:29 PM |
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Aug-07-06 05:25 PM |
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Look, kid... and I laugh YET AGAIN!! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 05:40 PM |
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No conceivable nuclear accident could kill millions. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 11:49 AM |
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Ummm, so the lingering effects of a massive radiation leak... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-07-06 12:52 PM |
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No, actually. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-07-06 01:00 PM |
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When I say massive, I am talking about a complete meltdown... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-07-06 02:25 PM |
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Yes, but the problem with that... |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 04:07 AM |
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So massive doses of radiation is perfectly fine then? |
truebrit71 |
Aug-08-06 09:20 AM |
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Yes, that's exactly what I said. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 09:50 AM |
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Thanks for bringing the pro-radiation arguments to the fore... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-08-06 10:24 AM |
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Every single one of your posts... |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 11:45 AM |
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Excellent! Mission Accomplished. NO NUKES!!! |
truebrit71 |
Aug-08-06 11:53 AM |
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A nuclear meltdown is fiction? Wow, I'll go tell the guys in ops |
MadHound |
Aug-08-06 09:21 AM |
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Fine, perhaps fiction isn't the correct word. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 09:53 AM |
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Nuclear meltdown is just one human error away, |
MadHound |
Aug-08-06 10:15 AM |
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Hasn't killed a million... yet |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 03:22 PM |
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Gee. We're running out of time. |
NNadir |
Aug-07-06 03:52 PM |
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guess they didn't check with you first |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 04:10 PM |
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Aug-07-06 09:29 PM |
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Fission product equilibrium??? Not so. |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 04:30 PM |
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Um, have you noticed millions of killed people by Chernobyl? |
NNadir |
Aug-07-06 01:02 PM |
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That is an ignorant response |
podnoi |
Aug-07-06 03:00 PM |
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Aug-07-06 03:31 PM |
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No, it wouldn't |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 01:20 PM |
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Then why do we have a Price Anderson Act that limits the liability |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 04:09 PM |
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Nuclear plant meltdowns arn't nuclear detonations |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 12:27 PM |
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Aug-07-06 01:08 PM |
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And the Titanic was unsinkable |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 04:15 PM |
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"Meltdown-proof?" |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 04:37 PM |
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"I'll believe Greenpeace" |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 06:21 PM |
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Greenpeace rules |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 06:27 PM |
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When the CO-FOUNDER of Greenpeace supports nulcear energy... |
Odin2005 |
Aug-07-06 07:24 PM |
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Patrick Moore cofounder of Greenpeace, Stewart Brand (Whole Earth Catalog) |
jpak |
Aug-08-06 10:44 AM |
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Nope. There's YOUR problem. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-07-06 09:48 PM |
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I would. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 04:49 AM |
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Good for you. You're one in a million, probably a billion. |
Lindacooks |
Aug-08-06 12:58 PM |
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I'm not advocating a nuclear-only solution. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-08-06 01:13 PM |
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you asked for it... |
druidity33 |
Aug-07-06 12:47 PM |
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Solar and wind. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-07-06 11:28 AM |
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NO NUKES!!!! |
Juniperx |
Aug-07-06 02:19 PM |
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When high temperature pebble bed reactors replace conventional |
gbrooks |
Aug-07-06 02:26 PM |
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Not so |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 02:34 PM |
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Thanks for the info. Question do the new Chinese PBMR's represent a |
gbrooks |
Aug-07-06 03:03 PM |
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They are all rather small, <120 MW and share the same problems |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 03:38 PM |
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Well you just ruined my happy face Uranium mining story......... |
gbrooks |
Aug-07-06 03:48 PM |
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Just doin' my part.... |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 03:52 PM |
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jpak, if you're going to beat the crap out of me I'd prefer that you do it |
gbrooks |
Aug-07-06 04:22 PM |
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LOL! - sorry |
jpak |
Aug-07-06 04:38 PM |
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thank you |
index555 |
Aug-08-06 05:30 AM |
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The problem is that this planet.... |
eviltwin2525 |
Aug-07-06 07:07 PM |
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