Reply #24: It depends what you mean by defeat

[sweetheart]

If to defeat is to establish long term influence, then treatment of aids, medicines,
and goodwill has an awesome assymetric value, heck, the value of simply bringing the
army home is asymetric for all the trouble it's causing. Bringing institutions of
justice to a people is a tremendous asymmetrical victory of civility.

All methods of learning are viral, they transform consciousness and people towards their
better, and the assymmetric means of learning has been the human way, of wishing the best
that our children have long life and wealth, and not the spoiled polluted wasteland of war.