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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:06 AM
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89. I am well aware of the First Amendment
I am also aware that shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater is not considered protected speech.

The effectiveness of institutional violence greatly exceeds that of the random nutcase.
1 jewish person murdered. The rest are crimes against property.


1 Jewish person killed who was not a member of the IDF, 5 others wounded who are also not members of the IDF. That the rest are crimes against property has nothing to do with the fact that they are based on hate; moreover it has nothing to do with the fact that such incidents haven risen remarkably since the beginning of the online slander of Israel.

Now, do yourself the favor of comparing this + the civilians killed in Israel, with the death toll in Lebanon + death toll in Gaza. And no, you are not allowed to say that Israel does not intentionally target civilians....because they have killed so many by now, that the opposite is quite obivous.

Really? Is it quite obvious? How many civilians would be dead if Israel wasn't dropping leaflets, wasn't taking out Hezbollah sites only with surgical strikes. Yes there are misses and yes innocent people do die by mistake. That is the nature of war. To say that they are intentionally targeting civilians however is slander of the highest order and it is remarks like those that circulate around the internet and then someone who already has a nascent hatred of Jews turns around destroys a Jewish business because they believe that Israel is actually targeting helpless civilians. To be fair though I must make it clear that I am not accusing you of intentionally doing anything like that, you have been as misled by Hezbollah's propaganda as others. They are quite good at manipulation and fomenting hatred of Israel and Jewish people.

And then ask yourself: Aren't you being overly tribal, and being a bit over the top in demanding that all people support *your* tribe in an unquestioning manner?

Which tribe exactly is it that I belong to? The tribe of all humanity? The tribe of rational persons? I do not think I have asked for unquestioned support of my "tribe" whichever that may be. I have asked for people to not state as fact things that they cannot prove. I have asked for people to not use inflammatory rhetoric that is unproven and sounds very much like what groups like Islamic Jihad and StormFront have said for years.

Because this is what you are doing by formulating, as you just have, this excuse of an excuse for censorship.

As for this last point I am afraid I cannot fathom what exactly you are saying. As I read it, you seem to be saying that I am endorsing censorship because I don't think Jewish people should be attacked for Israel's actions.

Is that what you are saying?
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