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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:43 AM
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99. It is not as impossible as you think
Here is the problem.

1.- Hisbollah (and many in the Arab world, not unique to them) see Israel as a product of Imperialism, never mind that the whole map of the ME is a product of Western Imperialism.

2.- Any European force meant to disarm them, (the central government does not have the capacity), will be seen as Imperialism 101, and partly it is.

3.- Even though this is the case, they MUST BE disarmed, as well as Hamas and any other irregular militia in the area (Yes I include settlers here)

Speaking of Settlers, they will have to be given a choice, back to behind the green line, or now you are a citizen of a new arab state, that will have to GUARANTEE your rights as a minority,

But in the short term, sections of this will be seen as imperialism in the area and will inflame passions. One way, partially, out of this, is to have those international troops go down with Lebanese forces.
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  -? for the DU armchair pundits on targeting Hezbollah sloppyliberal  Jul-31-06 03:18 PM   #0 
  - I'm curious to hear the replies as well  dwickham   Jul-31-06 03:22 PM   #1 
  - well, I hope you realize the difference between a "rocket launcher"  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:25 PM   #58 
  - I'd make the prisoner swap and then abide by the UN resolutions  John Q. Citizen   Jul-31-06 03:23 PM   #2 
  - Sometimes I agree, but I have long term reservations  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 04:51 PM   #42 
     - Well, what they have been doing hasn't been working so well.  John Q. Citizen   Aug-01-06 02:29 AM   #90 
  - This question gets asked over and over and we answer over  treestar   Jul-31-06 03:27 PM   #3 
  - But if they don't like the solutions they ignore them and say  WakingLife   Jul-31-06 03:30 PM   #12 
  - NPR had a man in Qana who saw NO Hezbollah rocket launchers...  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-06 03:27 PM   #4 
  - That would not be surprising.  ThomCat   Jul-31-06 03:30 PM   #11 
  - I would have addressed the root problem long ago.  WakingLife   Jul-31-06 03:28 PM   #5 
  - I agree  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:01 PM   #45 
  - False assumption.  ThomCat   Jul-31-06 03:28 PM   #6 
  - that's an ANTIAIRCRAFT GUN parked next to the apartment block....  mike_c   Jul-31-06 03:28 PM   #7 
  - Why must you point out facts that help tha terrrrists?  Bretttido   Jul-31-06 03:34 PM   #16 
  - Apologies for the wrong picture  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 04:40 PM   #37 
  - The "rocket launcher" is an anti-aircraft gun.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-31-06 03:29 PM   #8 
  - It's not a rocket launcher  Marie26   Jul-31-06 03:29 PM   #9 
  - I'm in charge defending Israel? Then I move my forces the fuck out....  truebrit71   Jul-31-06 03:29 PM   #10 
  - Then I'd finally agree to UN Resolution  malaise   Jul-31-06 05:04 PM   #47 
     - ...and release political prisoners of all stripes(including children)  librechik   Aug-01-06 10:54 AM   #102 
  - Pictures have been debunked  LA lady   Jul-31-06 03:32 PM   #13 
  - has this picture been debunked?  catmother   Jul-31-06 03:42 PM   #23 
     - What Is Supposed To Be Debunked?  jayfish   Jul-31-06 03:49 PM   #27 
        - hey i don't know anything about weapons. someone sent me  catmother   Jul-31-06 04:14 PM   #32 
  - I would have made the exchange of prisoners  QuestionAll...   Jul-31-06 03:32 PM   #14 
  - I just finished listening to Robert Fiske,  pennylane100   Jul-31-06 03:33 PM   #15 
  - I read that as well.  breakaleg   Jul-31-06 03:41 PM   #20 
  - Indeed  magellan   Jul-31-06 05:22 PM   #55 
  - what you say here doesn't make sense...  QuestionAll...   Jul-31-06 03:34 PM   #17 
  - i would not want to be in that position. but if i was i would do  catmother   Jul-31-06 03:37 PM   #18 
  - Send in a battalion task force on an airmobile assault.  tabasco   Jul-31-06 03:38 PM   #19 
  - Boy, that is pretty sloppy.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-31-06 03:41 PM   #21 
  - That's pretty sloppy too. Did you even *read* the post?  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:14 PM   #51 
     - Yeah, I read your post.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-31-06 05:19 PM   #54 
        - thank you for such an intelligent answer  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:50 PM   #67 
           - So, sloppy...  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-31-06 06:28 PM   #74 
              - I was on a school trip to Israel when I was 14 years old  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:38 PM   #77 
  - First of all, I still have not seen any proof  Karmakaze   Jul-31-06 03:42 PM   #22 
  - You make some great points  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 06:15 PM   #72 
     - The thing is...  Karmakaze   Aug-01-06 07:00 AM   #91 
  - Discredited picture in a hit & run post...  SidDithers   Jul-31-06 03:47 PM   #24 
  - Hit and Run, or poster with a life  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 04:37 PM   #36 
     - "what to my eyes looks like a rocket launcher"  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:27 PM   #59 
        - I never said I knew squat about weapons. Did you READ the OP?  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:36 PM   #60 
           - I am sick of seeing the same propaganda BS reposted continuously  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:41 PM   #61 
              - Its not propaganda, its a question open to debate.  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:40 PM   #78 
  - As pointed out elsewhere in this thread  The Deacon   Jul-31-06 03:48 PM   #25 
  - This Thread And Others.  jayfish   Jul-31-06 03:53 PM   #28 
  - Well then you'd be better than me to actually answer the question then  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 04:46 PM   #39 
  - Ground Troops. Use Drones and ground troops.  xultar   Jul-31-06 03:48 PM   #26 
  - Never!  jayfish   Jul-31-06 03:56 PM   #29 
  - I'm always amused by the deflection of this sort of argument  Lerkfish   Jul-31-06 03:56 PM   #30 
  - I also like the deflection of 'its the wrong picture, Quick IGNORE the ?"  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:11 PM   #50 
     - did I use that deflection?  Lerkfish   Jul-31-06 05:45 PM   #62 
  - Get rid of Hezbollah. They make those people stay and  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-31-06 03:57 PM   #31 
  - i totally agree with you.  catmother   Jul-31-06 04:15 PM   #33 
  - I Do Too n/t  Southpawkicker   Jul-31-06 05:15 PM   #52 
  - Hyperbole and wishes for ethnic cleasing aside...  newyorican   Aug-01-06 11:20 AM   #105 
  - I do wish Israel the best, really.  Joe for Clark   Jul-31-06 04:30 PM   #34 
  - assisting a democratic country against terrorists isn't our fight  dwickham   Jul-31-06 04:37 PM   #35 
     - There are a lot of bad guys out there.  Joe for Clark   Jul-31-06 04:55 PM   #44 
        - they're not trying to bring democracy  dwickham   Jul-31-06 08:45 PM   #87 
  - Hezbollah are the good guys in all of this. I wish their leadership  deaniac21   Jul-31-06 04:45 PM   #38 
  - Well I guess since most of us think *co are terrorists, they probably are.  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 04:48 PM   #41 
  - You're reply makes no sense.  deaniac21   Jul-31-06 04:54 PM   #43 
     - Why, you don't think Hezbollah are terrorists?  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:04 PM   #48 
        - You aren't good at defecting sarcasm.  deaniac21   Aug-01-06 09:48 AM   #92 
  - Aren't we doing pretty well already with Bush?  Crunchy Frog   Jul-31-06 05:07 PM   #49 
  - I'm Hoping You Are Sarcastic  Southpawkicker   Jul-31-06 05:16 PM   #53 
  - WTF???  rockymountaindem   Jul-31-06 05:50 PM   #68 
  - Not me  Marie26   Aug-01-06 10:34 AM   #96 
  - Weren't there a bunch of posts  Lurking Dem   Aug-01-06 10:42 AM   #98 
  - To answer two of your questions...  Chulanowa   Jul-31-06 04:47 PM   #40 
  - I would understand that  Crunchy Frog   Jul-31-06 05:04 PM   #46 
  - ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUNS = DEFENSIVE WEAPONS  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:24 PM   #56 
  - CAN YOU READ? OR DO YOU JUST LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:46 PM   #63 
     - I don't need you to tell me how or what to post, thanks  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:47 PM   #64 
        - IMAGINE THE PICTURE IS A ROCKET LAUNCHER  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:59 PM   #70 
           - okay, just so you are perfectly clear on this  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 06:01 PM   #71 
           - Crystal  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:27 PM   #75 
           - IMAGINE THE PICTURE IS A NUCLEAR WARHEAD AIMED AT TEL AVIV  datasuspect   Jul-31-06 07:32 PM   #76 
              - except for the fact the OP is about a rocket launcher  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:43 PM   #80 
              - i was imitating you  datasuspect   Jul-31-06 07:45 PM   #81 
                 - I was imitating Ms. Clio  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:50 PM   #83 
                    - eh, i at least wanted to try it out  datasuspect   Jul-31-06 07:53 PM   #85 
                    - on your best day you could not imitate me, ducky n/t  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 08:54 PM   #89 
              - Can I IMAGINE IT'S GODZILLA, PICKING UP A SUBWAY TRAIN?  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-01-06 10:50 AM   #101 
  - Do you take responsibility for your actions?  Rex   Jul-31-06 05:25 PM   #57 
  - I think that is right.  Joe for Clark   Jul-31-06 05:48 PM   #65 
  - You have to. But you have to be sure you did everything you could  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 05:49 PM   #66 
     - That is the crux of the problem; war isn't used as the last resort.  Rex   Jul-31-06 05:57 PM   #69 
        - It seems to be that whenever peace comes to be talked about  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:55 PM   #86 
           - No idea.  Rex   Jul-31-06 08:47 PM   #88 
  - 20 to 30 elite fighters  Mythsaje   Jul-31-06 06:26 PM   #73 
  - Thank You. The Obvious Solution For Anyone REALLY Concerned  DistressedAmerican   Jul-31-06 07:42 PM   #79 
  - That is a much much better plan.  sloppyliberal   Jul-31-06 07:47 PM   #82 
  - Unfortunately this is the Hollywood solution to the  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-01-06 10:33 AM   #95 
  - Then you DO it once or twice  Mythsaje   Aug-01-06 05:30 PM   #109 
  - can we get Steven Seagal to lead the team...  k_jerome   Aug-01-06 10:45 AM   #100 
     - He's too fat now...n/t  Mythsaje   Aug-01-06 05:27 PM   #108 
  - What did the British do when they were being terrorised--  eridani   Jul-31-06 07:50 PM   #84 
  - Another lecture from an armchair pundit on armchair pundits  wtmusic   Aug-01-06 09:52 AM   #93 
  - The cycle has to be broken  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-01-06 10:10 AM   #94 
  - Sounds good.  Marie26   Aug-01-06 10:37 AM   #97 
     - It is not as impossible as you think  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-01-06 10:43 AM   #99 
  - It depends  JNelson6563   Aug-01-06 11:01 AM   #103 
  - Yuo realize that K'yat Shmona and Haifa  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-01-06 11:04 AM   #104 
     - Pardon me but  JNelson6563   Aug-01-06 01:05 PM   #107 
  - Can you justify...  Everybody   Aug-01-06 11:48 AM   #106 
 

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