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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-31-06 02:24 PM
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35. Had enough?
Insist for whatever reasons you must that the IDF has some sort of moral superiority. But don't be outraged when others, who include Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, Jews AND Wiccans, insist that it's a LUDICROUS ASSERTION.
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  -Israel is not deliberately killing Lebanese children oberliner  Jul-31-06 01:55 PM   #0 
  - why is it absurd?  leftofthedial   Jul-31-06 01:57 PM   #1 
  - It's not absurd.  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:01 PM   #7 
  - So Israel is deliberately targeting and killing children?  India3   Jul-31-06 03:10 PM   #69 
  - what blowing up innocent civilians,  alyce douglas   Jul-31-06 06:54 PM   #93 
  - no more than targeting  blue collar welder   Aug-01-06 05:03 AM   #132 
     - Christian Group?  ProfessorGAC   Aug-01-06 10:43 AM   #141 
  - That tin foil hat is on to tight.  Cvortex_10   Jul-31-06 11:12 PM   #124 
  - Because if that was their goal they could kill many many hundreds times  Zynx   Jul-31-06 02:15 PM   #23 
     - I keep reading that justification  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:25 PM   #39 
     - If that guy was a murderer, he would have killed more than one person!  Bretttido   Jul-31-06 02:32 PM   #45 
     - So because they haven't killed *all* the kids in Lebanon  Mandate My Ass   Jul-31-06 02:33 PM   #46 
     - why is it absurd that perhaps they intentionally have killed  leftofthedial   Jul-31-06 03:01 PM   #66 
     - because they are so good at killing innocents right?  Moochy   Jul-31-06 09:40 PM   #117 
  - just too many 'mistakes' have been made...  QuestionAll...   Jul-31-06 01:58 PM   #2 
  - They are bombing deliberately  panader0   Jul-31-06 01:58 PM   #3 
  - What color is the sky in your world?  Beaverhausen   Jul-31-06 01:59 PM   #4 
  - That is absurd.  partylessinOhio   Jul-31-06 01:59 PM   #5 
  - They are not deliberately refraining from it, either. n/t  LWolf   Jul-31-06 02:00 PM   #6 
  - it's not absurd at all-- Israel could stop the killing immediately...  mike_c   Jul-31-06 02:01 PM   #8 
  - And the IDF got its overnight express  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:09 PM   #15 
  - How does Israel stop the rockets without shooting back? n/t  IanDB1   Jul-31-06 02:10 PM   #20 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-31-06 02:17 PM   #26 
     - recklessness can rise to the level of intent  Mandate My Ass   Jul-31-06 02:25 PM   #37 
     - Okay, by comparing them to Nazis you've ended reasonable debate  IanDB1   Jul-31-06 02:27 PM   #40 
        - No, they are shooting AT civilians.  Karmakaze   Jul-31-06 02:40 PM   #54 
        - Maybe stop occupying the palestians and treating them brutally??  Mojorabbit   Jul-31-06 03:43 PM   #75 
        - TALK  Magical   Jul-31-06 03:56 PM   #77 
        - It's actually called asymetric warfare  HongKonger   Aug-01-06 01:12 PM   #143 
           - Is Israel Using Arab Villages as Human Shields?  HongKonger   Aug-01-06 01:15 PM   #144 
     - Easy-peasy. The number you're looking for is 242.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 02:25 PM   #38 
     - exactly correct and the best response in this thread....  mike_c   Jul-31-06 02:27 PM   #42 
     - The negotiations have been going on for years  IanDB1   Jul-31-06 02:30 PM   #44 
     - As long as it took and as short as possible, if there was no alternative.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 02:34 PM   #47 
     - Israel didn't leave Gaza due to negotiations  JackNewtown   Jul-31-06 02:39 PM   #53 
     - So you're saying that Israel is The Evil Zionist Occupier? n/t  IanDB1   Jul-31-06 02:53 PM   #62 
        - The current government all three, the country 33%.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 03:17 PM   #72 
        - uncalled for comment.  NuttyFluffers   Jul-31-06 11:21 PM   #125 
        - thanks, I agree nt  JackNewtown   Aug-01-06 01:14 AM   #131 
        - That is a shameless attack  JackNewtown   Aug-01-06 01:13 AM   #130 
     - And they have been subverted by both sides at various times n/t  Moochy   Jul-31-06 09:41 PM   #118 
     - thanks for this post and others downthread  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 07:01 PM   #96 
     - How about agreeing to a ceasefire?  Karmakaze   Jul-31-06 02:37 PM   #50 
     - The ones that killed  azurnoir   Jul-31-06 02:40 PM   # 
     - an eye for an eye makes the world go blind  TheModernTerrorist   Jul-31-06 10:30 PM   #121 
  - Would you back your car up if children were playing in your driveway?  JCMach1   Jul-31-06 02:02 PM   # 
  - Some people do.  Cassandra   Jul-31-06 02:17 PM   #24 
     - If they do it 500 times, yes, they are charged with murder  MrTriumph   Jul-31-06 02:23 PM   #34 
  - and you know this for a fact on what evidence?  niyad   Jul-31-06 02:02 PM   #9 
  - Those crotchety Lebanese  Mandate My Ass   Jul-31-06 02:02 PM   #10 
  - its a sign of weakness to get 'emotional' over such matters.  QuestionAll...   Jul-31-06 02:07 PM   #13 
  - Yes it is, you're right  Mandate My Ass   Jul-31-06 02:10 PM   #19 
     - what a fuggin bastard.  QuestionAll...   Jul-31-06 02:20 PM   #30 
  - I wouldn't call dead civilians tedious.  alyce douglas   Jul-31-06 06:59 PM   #94 
     - Maybe the OP would?  Moochy   Jul-31-06 09:44 PM   #120 
  - Why would they not do it on purpose?  KingFlorez   Jul-31-06 02:03 PM   #11 
  - What do you expect to happen  CJCRANE   Jul-31-06 02:04 PM   #12 
  - What a relief!  Xipe Totec   Jul-31-06 02:08 PM   #14 
  - Next they'll be accused of poisoning wells and spreading plague, too  IanDB1   Jul-31-06 02:09 PM   #16 
  - Hmmm... That was a pretty good hit  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:35 PM   #48 
  - They targeted Red Cross ambulances  China_cat   Jul-31-06 02:09 PM   #17 
  - Oh okay then those 34 dead children are no porblem then...  LeftHander   Jul-31-06 02:10 PM   #18 
  - Just like the US is not deliberately raping, murdering and torturing. nt  cassiepriam   Jul-31-06 02:13 PM   #21 
  - No, not like that.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 02:20 PM   #31 
  - In my book, the use of depleted uranium  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:40 PM   #55 
  - Shock and Awe.  Karmakaze   Jul-31-06 02:45 PM   #59 
  - BS  bvar22   Jul-31-06 07:46 PM   #108 
  - Why are people who critcize Israeli aggression called anti-Semitic?  rhiannon55   Jul-31-06 10:56 PM   #123 
  - They Are Either Doing It On Purpose...  jayfish   Jul-31-06 02:14 PM   #22 
  - Don't expect an answer nt  JackNewtown   Jul-31-06 02:41 PM   #56 
  - I'm afraid I disagree. I think Israel is deliberately killing children.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 02:17 PM   #25 
  - Bombing populated areas in order to "get" some bad guys  rhiannon55   Jul-31-06 02:18 PM   #27 
  - this all comes out of the bush handbook  alyce douglas   Jul-31-06 07:04 PM   #97 
  - Will this bring them back to life?  Mr_Spock   Jul-31-06 02:19 PM   #28 
  - Right, and how about the UN post, and how about the Lebanese army vehicle  Nimrod2005   Jul-31-06 02:20 PM   #29 
  - What EVIDENCE brings you to this conclusion? n/t  blonndee   Jul-31-06 02:20 PM   #32 
  - agreed. hizbollah hides in civilian areas. so who's killing who?  catmother   Jul-31-06 02:23 PM   #33 
  - Had enough?  Karenina   Jul-31-06 02:24 PM   #35 
  - yes, one is homicide  northzax   Jul-31-06 02:24 PM   #36 
  - Whether it's a desired goal or not, the result is the same  breakaleg   Jul-31-06 02:27 PM   #41 
  - Whether they're deliberately targeting children or  MadHound   Jul-31-06 02:29 PM   #43 
  - plus the US is supplying Israel with our bombs  alyce douglas   Jul-31-06 07:10 PM   #99 
  - Why is it absurd? You believe terrorists do it, so why not the IDF?  Karmakaze   Jul-31-06 02:35 PM   #49 
  - and you're not deliberately trolling for angry responses to your threads.  Wonk   Jul-31-06 02:37 PM   #51 
  - you know what  oberliner   Jul-31-06 02:58 PM   #64 
     - This entire argument is a strawman  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 06:59 PM   #95 
  - No, not deliberately  warrens   Jul-31-06 02:39 PM   #52 
  - No, the kids just got in the way...it's a shame the kids were too young  LaPera   Jul-31-06 02:41 PM   #57 
  - Yes they are.  LibFromWV   Jul-31-06 02:43 PM   #58 
  - It is a reality that people die in war  jerry611   Jul-31-06 02:52 PM   #61 
     - that wasn't my response  LibFromWV   Jul-31-06 02:59 PM   #65 
     - I strongly disagree.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 03:11 PM   #70 
     - I seriously doubt that  jerry611   Jul-31-06 05:04 PM   #85 
        - What?  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 06:50 PM   #92 
     - Perhaps you should read what a genuine expert says  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 05:13 PM   #86 
  - They are killing powerless, innocent people  Strawman   Jul-31-06 02:46 PM   #60 
  - drunk drivers don't deliberately kill people either..  frylock   Jul-31-06 02:55 PM   #63 
  - good idea, & stop drive by posters from starting flamebait threads  Mandate My Ass   Jul-31-06 03:06 PM   #68 
     - by all means  oberliner   Jul-31-06 03:23 PM   #73 
  - one opinion  bigtree   Jul-31-06 03:05 PM   #67 
  - I think your OP is a wish more than a reality.  sfexpat2000   Jul-31-06 03:13 PM   #71 
  - when a country deliberatley targets densely populated urban areas  KG   Jul-31-06 03:30 PM   #74 
  - Not since Dresden has the deliberate carnage and the taking of the lives  GreenTea   Jul-31-06 03:49 PM   #76 
     - The bombing of Dresden?  oberliner   Jul-31-06 03:59 PM   #79 
        - Yes...that's what I'm looking for "traction".  GreenTea   Jul-31-06 04:38 PM   #81 
  - Free shots of Koolaid!!  meisje   Jul-31-06 03:59 PM   #78 
  - Definition of non - military targets that Israel is obligated to  Solly Mack   Jul-31-06 04:31 PM   #80 
  - We know, but their incompetent soldiers are responsible. Cease fire.  McCamy Taylor   Jul-31-06 04:46 PM   #82 
  - "Oops" doesn't quite cover it.  newcriminal   Jul-31-06 04:57 PM   #83 
  - Recklessness? Well, I guess if you're being reckless there is no  Skidmore   Jul-31-06 05:00 PM   #84 
  - You are, of course, 100% correct.  Clarkie1   Jul-31-06 05:27 PM   #87 
  - They are directly targeting them...  Xenotime   Jul-31-06 05:34 PM   #88 
  - Israel drafts ALL kids, even ones not fit be soldiers. Mistakes are gonna  McCamy Taylor   Jul-31-06 05:59 PM   #89 
     - There was nothing wrong with the drafted army we sent to Viet Nam  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 11:45 PM   #128 
  - But they still end up paying the ultimate price.  tuvor   Jul-31-06 06:35 PM   #90 
  - People who think that Israel is deliberately targeting civilians should  lostinacause   Jul-31-06 06:47 PM   #91 
  - *You* may want another World War, lostinacause, but I don't. (nt)  w4rma   Jul-31-06 07:13 PM   #101 
     - Please do explain where I said that I wanted another World War.  lostinacause   Jul-31-06 09:08 PM   #113 
  - The Israeli leadership think *exactly* like Cheney and the other neo-cons  w4rma   Jul-31-06 07:10 PM   #98 
  - this is being fuelled by our regime to expand the war  alyce douglas   Jul-31-06 07:26 PM   #102 
  - Of course Israel is not deliberately killing Lebanese children!  MarkDevin   Jul-31-06 07:12 PM   #100 
  - Choosing recklessness = choosing to kill children.  eridani   Jul-31-06 07:30 PM   #103 
  - Oh what crap.  Warren Stupidity   Jul-31-06 07:31 PM   #104 
  - I'm sorry, but it appears that's exactly what they are doing...  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-06 07:33 PM   #105 
  - Of course they are. They're bombing areas in which civilians live.  smoogatz   Jul-31-06 07:38 PM   #106 
  - They just got in the way.  tedzbear   Jul-31-06 07:41 PM   #107 
  - there are so many ignorant people on this board....  dennis4868   Jul-31-06 07:50 PM   #109 
  - Juan Cole:  Junkdrawer   Jul-31-06 08:16 PM   #110 
  - It's really starting to bother me, that all the self-proclaimed "experts"  Ms. Clio   Jul-31-06 09:14 PM   #114 
  - Anytime you bomb civilian population areas, it's a given  smoogatz   Jul-31-06 08:49 PM   #111 
  - I have placed the Israel "can do no wrong" posters on  Disturbed   Jul-31-06 09:28 PM   #115 
     - they are scary motherfuckers. I don't know why they think  jonnyblitz   Jul-31-06 09:43 PM   #119 
        - Does that include  Lurking Dem   Aug-01-06 10:38 AM   #140 
  - "The Jewish state would never purposefully murder innocent people"  Warren Stupidity   Jul-31-06 10:44 PM   #122 
  - I agree about the presence of ignorant people.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-01-06 09:22 AM   #133 
  - yes because of course from all the countries in the middle east  lionesspriyanka   Aug-01-06 10:08 AM   #137 
  - ...so stop saying that!  Lilith Velkor   Jul-31-06 08:56 PM   #112 
  - lets see  Moochy   Jul-31-06 09:31 PM   #116 
  - Or so it claims  GAPeace   Jul-31-06 11:25 PM   #126 
  - I have seen way to many video clips of settlers just tormenting  jonnyblitz   Jul-31-06 11:31 PM   #127 
  - "There's something wrong in a war where there are more dead children  Lindacooks   Jul-31-06 11:47 PM   #129 
  - Lebanese children committing suicide to embarass Israel?  patcox2   Aug-01-06 09:42 AM   #134 
  - Right. Suicide propagandists!  smoogatz   Aug-01-06 10:36 AM   #139 
  - bullshit! this level of callousness tantamounts to intent  lionesspriyanka   Aug-01-06 09:44 AM   #135 
  - Here's what I don't understand  burythehatchet   Aug-01-06 09:48 AM   #136 
  - HA! best laugh of the day, thanks  Philosoraptor   Aug-01-06 10:09 AM   #138 
  - Nuance it however you please.  Everybody   Aug-01-06 11:51 AM   #142 
 

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