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227. Are you sure you want to compare numbers murdered on each side? LOL! n/t
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  -Israel just lost me. benburch  Jul-30-06 11:14 AM   #0 
  - It's an easy epiphany, all you have to do is open your eyes.  Syncronaut Seven   Jul-30-06 11:18 AM   #1 
  - Well Said - I have Been Pointing Out The Same with No End Of Grief.  prole100   Jul-30-06 02:28 PM   #155 
  - Add the American Christian Right in this mixture and it's impossible.  Joanne98   Jul-30-06 11:18 AM   #2 
  - What I hear coming from the Likud rulers of Israel sounds like our own  havocmom   Jul-30-06 11:24 AM   #3 
     - Everybody killing on all sides are conservations.  Joanne98   Jul-30-06 11:28 AM   #7 
     - They aren't conserving a damned thing  havocmom   Jul-30-06 11:46 AM   #27 
        - Authoritarians  Joanne98   Jul-30-06 12:12 PM   #67 
           - sorta works  havocmom   Jul-30-06 12:14 PM   #70 
     - Totally agree.  Burried News   Jul-30-06 11:38 AM   #18 
  - Hezbulla killed them, might as well have.  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:24 AM   #4 
  - Hezbollah pulled the trigger?  Mandate My Ass   Jul-30-06 11:28 AM   #6 
  - No  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:35 AM   #12 
  - So when a Lebanese dies it's Hezbollah's fault  Mandate My Ass   Jul-30-06 11:38 AM   #16 
  - Simple statement  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:44 AM   #24 
     - At what point do you examine Israel's illegal activities?  malaise   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   #48 
     - In war it is not as simple as taht  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-30-06 12:15 PM   #71 
     - No. The only thing clear to me  malaise   Jul-30-06 12:18 PM   #77 
        - How bout Isreali civilians?  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-30-06 12:24 PM   #82 
           - All life is important but we're dealing with  malaise   Jul-30-06 12:40 PM   #99 
           - Far fewer of them.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-30-06 06:43 PM   #179 
     - We are beyond analogies  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 12:15 PM   #72 
     - That poster NEVER questions Israel's activities, illegal or not.  Lindacooks   Jul-30-06 01:14 PM   #126 
     - So when someone drops a nuke on Colorado Springs  walldude   Jul-30-06 05:25 PM   #172 
  - There is no excuse  KingFlorez   Jul-30-06 01:18 PM   #132 
  - I'll wait for the tape.(nt)  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 01:20 PM   #135 
     - Tape of what?  KingFlorez   Jul-30-06 01:22 PM   #136 
  - It's an anti-aircraft gun and the Likud planes are bombing residential  w4rma   Jul-30-06 04:50 PM   #167 
  - Stay tuned for the video showing HEZBOLLAH nearby.  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 11:36 AM   #14 
     - I have yet to see a picture of a destroyed missle launcher  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   # 
        - IDF is showing it later. n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:11 PM   #64 
           - gotta have time to work that video composite software  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:13 PM   # 
              - Maybe  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 12:24 PM   #83 
              - Really  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:28 PM   #85 
                 - I don't watch tv that often  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 01:05 PM   #120 
                    - It's the Israeli intelligence agency that is going to be showing it  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:44 PM   #141 
                    - I am a professional video editor  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:47 PM   #144 
              - Of course. It won't matter what the fuck they show you people.  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:30 PM   #88 
                 - No, it doesn't matter  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:36 PM   #94 
                 - You would be wrong  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 01:09 PM   #123 
                 - obviously you have not watched this  Mojorabbit   Jul-30-06 01:34 PM   #140 
                 - I can't bring myself to watchi it mojo.  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:46 PM   #142 
                    - I can't but it truly... is watchable and important  Mojorabbit   Jul-30-06 03:48 PM   #161 
                    - Documentation of incredibly brutal oppression by Israelis for decades  Divernan   Jul-31-06 11:00 AM   #210 
                 - Maybe its because there are not as many dead Israelis to put on film  Gonnabuymeagun   Jul-30-06 03:45 PM   #159 
                 - I can smell the racism  burythehatchet   Jul-30-06 05:27 PM   #173 
                 - Democratic countries that kill children don't impress me  mycritters2   Jul-30-06 05:30 PM   #174 
                 - another recruit  ptolle   Jul-30-06 11:09 PM   #195 
                 - Gosh, maybe it's coz the IDF has shown bullshit stuff before?  Violet_Crumble   Jul-31-06 07:25 AM   #203 
  - The Geneva Convention also prohibits collective punishment  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:30 AM   #8 
  - No  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:38 AM   #17 
     - Bullshit  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:41 AM   #21 
     - Nasralla  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:48 AM   #31 
     - Are you fucking kidding me?  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:53 AM   #38 
     - Stats  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   #47 
        - I Could Buy All Of That Until  Southpawkicker   Jul-30-06 12:43 PM   #103 
           - Have they confirmed WP?(nt)  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 01:09 PM   #124 
     - Traffic Fatalities?  wellst0nev0ter   Jul-31-06 08:51 AM   #206 
     - What you saw was Hezbollah apologizing for the death of 2 Israeli Arab  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 11:53 AM   #37 
        - Oh so you've been monitoring every media outlet I've watched?  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:53 AM   #40 
           - They have NEVER apologized for killing an Israeli JEW. Never have and neve  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 11:55 AM   #41 
              - Well I'm feeling the same vibe from Israel right now  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:59 AM   #49 
              - No, they are not worth less and  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:10 PM   #62 
                 - Then why is it every Lebanese Arab who's being killed?  Clark2008   Jul-30-06 06:35 PM   #177 
                 - "Hezbollah aims at ONLY civilian targets"  newyorican   Jul-31-06 02:29 PM   #220 
              - So?  eridani   Jul-31-06 07:11 AM   #202 
     - And Bush is a compassionate conservative.  mhatrw   Jul-31-06 01:53 PM   #217 
  - when will u open your blinded eyes???  liberaliraqvet26   Jul-30-06 11:33 AM   #10 
  - In fact, Hezbollah made no attacks on Israeli civilians for 5 yrs before  leveymg   Jul-30-06 11:36 AM   #13 
  - Germany never bothered Poland  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:40 AM   #20 
  - Neither Hizbollah nor Lebanon have the military might  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:43 AM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-06 11:47 AM   #29 
  - I said civilians. You can go back and read that post. I acknowledge  leveymg   Jul-30-06 11:56 AM   #43 
     - Read the list. I HIGHLIGHTED the Israeli CIVILIANS MURDERED by Hezbollah .  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:43 PM   #102 
  - Why keep posting  cali   Jul-30-06 12:01 PM   #50 
     - Tell me what the lie is?  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:15 PM   #73 
        - and THAT is a lie. Read the list I posted.  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:46 PM   #105 
           - Please post a link. Really, I want to see that information  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:54 PM   #113 
  - The photos are of anti-aircraft guns.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 11:42 AM   #22 
  - The only way to effectively stop mobile launchers  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:46 AM   #28 
  - commando experience?  pelsar   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   #45 
     - There are apparently hizbollah cells in the US  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:02 PM   #51 
     - thats not the point....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:15 PM   #74 
        - It's not anymore practical to bomb a civilzation back to the stone age  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:17 PM   #75 
        - Ideas? Try negotiating a cease-fire.  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:36 PM   #95 
           - so remind me..  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:41 PM   #100 
              - There have been numerous border skirmishes and some hostage-  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:46 PM   #106 
              - the difference is that the IDF/israel ran out of patience....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:53 PM   #112 
                 - Most of the skirmishing is in the Shebaa Farms area. Those 160 acres have  leveymg   Jul-30-06 01:02 PM   #119 
                    - the shaba farms  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:51 PM   #146 
                       - Where have I heard these words before...  newyorican   Jul-31-06 02:35 PM   #222 
              - Why does some wacko shoot up a McDonald's?  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 02:02 PM   #150 
     - Here's a little story that parallels the 'logic' of what you've posted.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 12:18 PM   #76 
        - Bingo.  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:34 PM   #91 
        - good move...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:48 PM   #107 
           - Really?  eridani   Jul-31-06 07:28 AM   #204 
        - mobile launchers have been taken out...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:44 PM   #104 
           - No, but call a spade a spade  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:52 PM   #147 
  - Could you start a thread on this for those who don't know this  MissWaverly   Jul-30-06 11:49 AM   #32 
  - welcome to 2006...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 11:56 AM   #42 
  - His point is VALID  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 12:04 PM   #53 
  - no longer...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:09 PM   #61 
  - Thatt's because the vast majority of Hez rockets have no guidance systems  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:22 PM   #81 
  - And if Israel weren't targeting only Hezbollah  rockymountaindem   Jul-30-06 01:33 PM   #139 
  - I am really interested in knowing what the chances are......  springhill   Jul-31-06 12:42 AM   #198 
     - According to CBC as of this morning:  GirlinContempt   Aug-02-06 07:51 AM   #230 
  - Hi, Pelsar. How many larger missiles do you think Hezbollah has?  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:19 PM   #78 
  - i dont know the numbers...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:31 PM   #90 
     - That sounds about right. Thanks.  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:39 PM   #98 
        - not that accurate....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:59 PM   #115 
           - Except that one anti-shipping missile. Was it a C-802?  leveymg   Jul-30-06 01:17 PM   #131 
  - Total nonsense.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 12:29 PM   #86 
     - missles versus artillary...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 12:37 PM   #96 
     - Pelsar, we talked about counter-fire artillery just a couple months ago  leveymg   Jul-30-06 12:50 PM   #109 
     - I'm in the IDF reserves....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:01 PM   #118 
        - Have you been called up?  leveymg   Jul-30-06 01:12 PM   #125 
        - nope....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:17 PM   #130 
           - I'm glad to hear that.  leveymg   Jul-30-06 01:19 PM   #133 
        - I do not wish upon you (or anyone) the experience ...  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 01:17 PM   #129 
        - i dont need any more....  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:27 PM   #137 
           - Indeed. We just have fancier (and deadlier) sticks and stones.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 01:33 PM   #138 
              - i like that...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:47 PM   #143 
        - For whatever it's worth to you Pelsar  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 02:07 PM   #151 
           - i'll tell you what i find so despicable here  pelsar   Jul-30-06 04:26 PM   #165 
              - I've never seen anyone say that of the entire IDF  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 11:30 AM   #212 
                 - Do you think US soldiers have the same moral imperative? n/t  ProgressiveCritic   Aug-01-06 06:38 PM   #228 
                    - To a lesser extent, if at all.  Donald Ian Rankin   Aug-02-06 07:17 AM   #229 
     - Huh?? Artillery is VERY accurate ... and has been.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 01:07 PM   #121 
        - I'm weak on artillary...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:16 PM   #128 
     - yes it is a plague  Zodiak Ironfist   Jul-30-06 01:00 PM   #117 
  - Civilians are not to be used as cover  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 11:57 AM   #44 
  - Debunked.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 12:53 PM   #111 
     - wrong info...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 01:08 PM   #122 
     - Who is controlling the information?  Pavulon   Jul-30-06 01:14 PM   #127 
  - Stupidity and/or Fanaticism  stepnw1f   Jul-30-06 12:21 PM   #79 
  - Keep the blinders on  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-30-06 11:47 AM   #30 
  - thank you DYEW! ..THIS IS PHASE 2 OF PNAC..WHEN WILL PEOPLE  flyarm   Jul-30-06 12:43 PM   #101 
  - It's discouraging, isn't it?  Lars39   Jul-30-06 02:16 PM   #152 
     - yes indeed..and it seems many are ignorant to PNAC or they wouldn't  flyarm   Jul-30-06 03:22 PM   #158 
        - Maybe it's time to haul the PNAC bookmarks out again.  Lars39   Jul-30-06 05:47 PM   #176 
  - No, that isn't true.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-31-06 11:32 AM   #213 
  - Yeah right...sorry, not buying that crap  AnOhioan   Jul-30-06 02:34 PM   #157 
  - Retribution against civilians is a war crime.  tabasco   Jul-30-06 05:15 PM   #170 
  - The place has been inhabited since before we discovered Iron...  Chulanowa   Jul-31-06 12:39 PM   #215 
  - Whenever a secular/national military action is regarded as a 'sacrament'  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 11:26 AM   #5 
  - This does feel like a turning point of recognition. The atrocities just  chimpymustgo   Jul-30-06 11:37 AM   #15 
  - Do you think, TahitiNut ?  PsN2Wind   Jul-30-06 11:39 AM   #19 
  - Ditto that thought for me  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 11:51 AM   #34 
  - Not just you old salts who notice such things  havocmom   Jul-30-06 11:51 AM   #35 
  - Perhaps with age comes ... something. Dunno what.  TahitiNut   Jul-30-06 12:05 PM   #55 
  - Now with Bushco we see this happening in the U.S.  spanone   Jul-30-06 11:45 AM   #25 
     - Think back on those 'prayer pledge cards' troops in Iraq were asked  havocmom   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   # 
  - Hey, benburch, just in case you have any lingering doubts...  TomInTib   Jul-30-06 11:32 AM   #9 
  - nothing the christian fundies in this country do surprises me  flyarm   Jul-30-06 12:50 PM   #108 
  - The original Zionist idea  Xeric   Jul-30-06 11:34 AM   #11 
  - Just want to point one thing out  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 11:45 AM   #26 
     - As I stated  Xeric   Jul-30-06 12:07 PM   #58 
     - ITA with you there... European zionists were secular imperialists!  ProgressiveCritic   Aug-01-06 06:31 PM   #225 
  - Chomsky has said before that he doesn't think any state  Fuzz   Jul-30-06 11:50 AM   #33 
  - Yeah  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 11:52 AM   #36 
     - Chomsky has never denied the Hololcaust in any way, shape or form  Douglas Carpenter   Jul-30-06 12:11 PM   #65 
        - Actually  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:30 PM   #87 
           - in Chomsky's own words:  Douglas Carpenter   Jul-30-06 12:38 PM   #97 
  - Palestinian Arab friends have told me over the years  Warpy   Jul-30-06 11:53 AM   #39 
  - Well  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 11:58 AM   #46 
  - Also  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:05 PM   #54 
  - I'm sure prominent Rabbis in Israel have no political influence  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 12:06 PM   #56 
     - did I say that?  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:08 PM   #59 
  - You're comparing apples to oranges  Warpy   Jul-30-06 12:09 PM   #60 
     - by the time  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:13 PM   #68 
  - That was the PLO's call until 1988 -- a unified secular state for all. n/t  ProgressiveCritic   Aug-01-06 06:32 PM   #226 
  - Yup. I think we should just let Hamas, Hezbollah and every anti-Israel  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-30-06 12:04 PM   #52 
  - I agree  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:07 PM   #57 
  - Israeli war crimes will never be forgotten  grassfed   Jul-30-06 12:51 PM   #110 
  - Are you sure you want to compare numbers murdered on each side? LOL! n/t  ProgressiveCritic   Aug-01-06 06:33 PM   #227 
  - They lost me too  proud2Blib   Jul-30-06 12:10 PM   #63 
  - Yep and peace will come only when folks stop  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-30-06 12:13 PM   #69 
  - Ben Israel IS a secular state  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-30-06 12:11 PM   #66 
  - My friend...  benburch   Jul-30-06 03:48 PM   #160 
     - then you have no idea about israeli society...  pelsar   Jul-30-06 11:58 PM   #197 
  - I have often thought that making Jerusalem like the Vatican - an  Clark2008   Jul-30-06 12:21 PM   #80 
  - It was contemplated in the original agreements  nadinbrzezinski   Jul-30-06 12:25 PM   #84 
     - exactly.  BayCityProgressive   Jul-30-06 12:31 PM   #89 
  - This is not a question of Israel's right to exist  AliceWonderland   Jul-30-06 12:34 PM   #92 
  - Well said Alice  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:57 PM   #148 
  - Not me.  lonestarnot   Jul-30-06 12:35 PM   #93 
  - The recent events have led  atfqn   Jul-31-06 01:21 PM   #216 
  - US should take over the whole ME, make it part of the US, then  soothsayer   Jul-30-06 12:57 PM   #114 
  - I'd almost be fine with that  shadowknows69   Jul-30-06 01:58 PM   #149 
  - I have been wondering why Tony Blair and his friends  BeachBuckeye   Jul-30-06 12:59 PM   #116 
  - Right On Again Guy  stepnw1f   Jul-30-06 02:19 PM   #153 
  - me too benburch. The country, the gvt of Israel could change my mind back  uppityperson   Jul-30-06 01:20 PM   #134 
  - divine right  warrens   Jul-30-06 01:50 PM   #145 
  - The leaders we stand behind  mirandapriestly   Jul-30-06 02:24 PM   #154 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-30-06 02:30 PM   #156 
  - I understand your anger  mogster   Jul-30-06 03:56 PM   #162 
  - NO Nation has a right to exist if it slaughters innocents without cause.  benburch   Jul-30-06 04:13 PM   #164 
     - Yet it is done, over and over again  mogster   Jul-30-06 05:20 PM   #171 
     - I am not real strong on this "Nation" thing, you know.  benburch   Jul-30-06 07:19 PM   #180 
     - Oh, really?You just decided that? I guess you should dismantle half of the  robbedvoter   Jul-30-06 06:42 PM   #178 
        - Yes. In fact I would dismantle half of the world.  benburch   Jul-30-06 07:22 PM   #181 
           - How very rational and constructive!  robbedvoter   Jul-31-06 03:14 PM   #223 
  - A Jewish state is the ONLY place Jews will KNOW they won't be  WinkyDink   Jul-30-06 03:57 PM   #163 
  - .  Behind the Aegis   Jul-30-06 04:35 PM   #166 
  - Israel as a state is extremely important (in my opinion)  TMA1   Jul-30-06 04:58 PM   #168 
  - they lost me at Iran Contra n/t  lala_rawraw   Jul-30-06 05:03 PM   #169 
  - Please explain the difference between  Spinoza   Jul-30-06 05:36 PM   #175 
  - I cannot explain a difference which does not exist. nt  benburch   Jul-30-06 07:23 PM   #182 
  - Then why do Iran and Saudi Arabia  Spinoza   Jul-30-06 07:45 PM   #183 
     - If they slaughter innocents, they don't. nt  benburch   Jul-30-06 07:53 PM   #184 
        - America has slaughtered many innocents. Look at WWII and what  dorktv   Jul-30-06 08:03 PM   #185 
        - I don't exclude the USA. nt  benburch   Jul-30-06 08:27 PM   #188 
           - Then what? We dissolve all countries that have hurt one innocent?  dorktv   Jul-30-06 08:40 PM   #191 
              - So, a nation can slaughter an infinite number of innocent people?  benburch   Jul-30-06 10:41 PM   #192 
                 - I think I do not understand what you mean then. If a country has harmed  dorktv   Jul-30-06 11:06 PM   #194 
        - And since Hezbollah  Spinoza   Jul-30-06 08:14 PM   #186 
        - Nobody has any right to kill anybody here for any reason.  benburch   Jul-30-06 08:28 PM   #189 
           - Self Defense  Spinoza   Aug-01-06 03:44 PM   #224 
        - Are you kidding?  cali   Jul-31-06 05:49 AM   #201 
  - What about land ownership? n/t  eridani   Jul-31-06 07:40 AM   #205 
  - I don't think state should exist based on religion or ethnicity.  LWolf   Jul-30-06 08:24 PM   #187 
  - It is a secular state. 15% of Israel is Arab last time I checked.  Clarkie1   Jul-30-06 08:33 PM   #190 
  - They can pretend to that all they want.  benburch   Jul-30-06 10:57 PM   #193 
  - Theocracy?  Clarkie1   Jul-30-06 11:14 PM   #196 
     - Does Israel have a written constitution? n/t  Emit   Jul-31-06 02:13 PM   #219 
  - But ..  Maat   Jul-31-06 12:47 AM   #199 
     - No, that isn't true.  Clarkie1   Jul-31-06 02:22 AM   #200 
        - Thanks for clearing that up.  Maat   Jul-31-06 11:29 AM   #211 
        - of course some people are more equal than others  lwfern   Jul-31-06 02:12 PM   #218 
           - All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.  Emit   Jul-31-06 02:32 PM   #221 
  - Plus, all of Israel's neighbors are rational, civil and kind to the  deaniac21   Jul-31-06 09:02 AM   #207 
  - Kamal Ataturk  realpolitik   Jul-31-06 10:30 AM   #208 
  - Its the child-slaughter that gets to me n/t  REACTIVATED IN CT   Jul-31-06 10:55 AM   #209 
  - I hope they lose most of their support base with these actions.  breakaleg   Jul-31-06 11:37 AM   #214 
  - kick  wicket   Aug-03-06 02:30 PM   #231 
 

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