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Wed Jul-26-06 02:24 PM
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| 23. I have to reply to all these people such as cigsandcoffee, and Aegis |
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regarding the issue of Hizbollah and other militant groups hiding in the civilian populace. You are right and you are wrong. Right in that it is cowardly.
Wrong in that no matter how cowardly, we simply cannot bomb a UN outpost, civilian apartment building, water treatment plant, etc. etc., and still maintain any moral highground, or expect to accomplish any long term solution. It makes us terrorists. It does. Ask what else can we do all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the view from under our(or Israel's) bombs is just as terrible, unjust, immoral and completely tragic as 9-11, Oklahoma city, Beirut, U.S.S. Cole, Haifa, or any other "terrorist" bombings. As long as we continue in this "Bush Doctrine" philosophy, we will continue to create enemies with legitimate hatred for us faster than we can kill them.
It is far more cowardly to bomb a civilian populace with overwhelming force than it is to hide in one. I doesn't matter if Satan is hiding there.
It will NEVER end the violence. It("The Buuush Doctrine") has been tried time and time again. It NEVER works. Neither peace, non-violent democracy, or "lasting ceacefires" can be achieved with violence. The horror of watching all the slow people in the world trying to figure this out over and over again is sickening.
Let me be clear: As long as bombs are being fired, WHOMEVER is firing them deserves the label of "terrorist" and lifelong imprisonment. There is No justification. Please don't waste your time trying.
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| -Juan Cole: Israelis Kill UN Peacekeepers |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:05 PM |
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I believe that they did it to discourage other countries from sending |
ladjf |
Jul-26-06 01:09 PM |
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yes, the goal is NATO forces |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:16 PM |
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That is my view as well |
CuteNFuzzy |
Jul-26-06 01:26 PM |
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Hezbollah is firing on the Israelis from the "immediate vicinity"... |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:11 PM |
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hey, either it's "precision" targeting, or it's not |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:15 PM |
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Meanwhile from the link |
malaise |
Jul-26-06 01:19 PM |
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you should read his recent piece about Hitchens |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:23 PM |
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Of course it was from six days ago. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:19 PM |
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That has nothing to do with this case, it's a red herring |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:22 PM |
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Red herring, my ass. |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:27 PM |
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yes, of course, that's the same excuse for destroying all of Lebanon |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:31 PM |
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Now that's a red herring |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:34 PM |
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it's the precise same logic |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 01:35 PM |
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The UN reported that Hezbollah was firing... |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:39 PM |
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you could not be more wrong: The UN says Hezbollah was NOT firing |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 02:36 PM |
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"Hezbollah firing was not taking place within the immediate vicinity |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 04:09 PM |
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thanks for clearing that up |
CuteNFuzzy |
Jul-26-06 04:12 PM |
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Precision Guided Mistake.. over and over again? |
stepnw1f |
Jul-26-06 01:16 PM |
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Hezbollah firing from the "immediate vicinity" |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:20 PM |
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Don't Buy This |
stepnw1f |
Jul-26-06 01:24 PM |
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Don't take my word for it... |
cigsandcoffee |
Jul-26-06 01:36 PM |
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We'd like word of what was happening when the place was actually hit |
Kagemusha |
Jul-26-06 01:54 PM |
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your skepticism is justified |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 02:41 PM |
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If you're trying to say |
igil |
Jul-26-06 01:33 PM |
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Well that explains a lot. It really does. |
Kagemusha |
Jul-26-06 01:53 PM |
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Ah, that's where you're mistaken |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-26-06 01:59 PM |
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I was under the impression that the IDF had aircraft |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-26-06 01:56 PM |
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That was good... |
femrap |
Jul-27-06 10:25 AM |
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I have to reply to all these people such as cigsandcoffee, and Aegis |
poverlay |
Jul-26-06 02:24 PM |
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They Don't Give Shit |
stepnw1f |
Jul-26-06 04:13 PM |
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the silence is deafening, yes |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 07:35 PM |
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It's so easy for people to be provoked into bloodthirsty, hate-filled |
poverlay |
Jul-27-06 02:07 AM |
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"have to directly experience the repercussions" |
stepnw1f |
Jul-27-06 08:36 AM |
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Remarkably well said. Thanks for your insightful post. nt |
glitch |
Jul-27-06 09:53 AM |
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Why can't people learn this? Thank you. nt |
femrap |
Jul-27-06 10:28 AM |
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another kick |
Ms. Clio |
Jul-26-06 07:34 PM |
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Kofi Annan accepts the Israeli apology and awaits investigation |
oberliner |
Jul-27-06 02:14 AM |
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