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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 02:23 PM
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21. I watched their new conference this morning and they said
that they were going through the list of signing statements to see just who could bring a case, who the injured part would be. They said that so far, it appears that Congress would have to press the case because it appears that their constitutional rights were being infringed with these statements. In other words, if blivet** outright vetoed a law, they could have recourse to vote on the veto and bring the bill back over the executive objections, rework it to address any constitutional objections brought by the executive, or draft new legislation adapting some of the ideas in the original and leaving the questionable portions out completely. The signing statements keep them from exercising those options because often they aren't even told what the statements purposes are.

Pressure your Reps and Senators into bringing charges. That seems to be the only way to do it and win.
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  -ABA: "THIS REPORT RAISES CONCERNS CRUCIAL TO SURVIVAL OF OUR DEMOCRACY" DeepModem Mom  Jul-24-06 11:27 AM   #0 
  - Finally catching on. WOW!  helderheid   Jul-24-06 11:28 AM   #1 
  - Did you hear that, Congress?????  Mandate My Ass   Jul-24-06 11:30 AM   #2 
  - Will they do something about it?  liberal N proud   Jul-24-06 11:30 AM   #3 
  - and if they do, Bush will still do whatever he wants  DemReadingDU   Jul-24-06 11:53 AM   #7 
  - "A serious assault on the constitutional system of checks and balances"  kurth   Jul-24-06 11:34 AM   #4 
  - So, you're the ABA. Sue him already!!! n/t  no_hypocrisy   Jul-24-06 11:34 AM   #5 
  - Really!  Joanne98   Jul-24-06 04:05 PM   #26 
  - off to the greatest!  Ghost in the Machine   Jul-24-06 11:36 AM   #6 
  - vote and kick  madmusic   Jul-24-06 12:00 PM   #8 
  - Link to ABA Task Force Report  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 12:03 PM   #9 
  - Thank you, Norquist Nemesis!!! nt  DeepModem Mom   Jul-24-06 12:05 PM   #10 
     - You're welcome! Pass it on! n/t  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 12:15 PM   #11 
  - ABA's press conference on CSPAN this morning  yorkiemommie1   Jul-24-06 12:30 PM   #12 
  - That is so important. This is the job of the press in a democracy.  DeepModem Mom   Jul-24-06 12:34 PM   #13 
     - He really stressed that to them  yorkiemommie1   Jul-24-06 09:54 PM   #31 
  - This report is a defacto Article of Impeachment  Senator   Jul-24-06 12:35 PM   #14 
  - Indeed, way beyond Watergate! nt  DeepModem Mom   Jul-24-06 12:49 PM   #15 
  - Greco is wrong.  Pacifist Patriot   Jul-24-06 01:12 PM   #16 
  - More related discussion also here (link)  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 01:19 PM   #17 
  - Thank you for the link, chill_wind. That article, a lead-up...  DeepModem Mom   Jul-24-06 01:59 PM   #18 
  - So is the ABA going to file some law suits or what?  TheGoldenRule   Jul-24-06 02:09 PM   #19 
  - maybe THIS will be the thing that reunites  QuettaKid   Jul-24-06 02:11 PM   #20 
  - I watched their new conference this morning and they said  Sydnie   Jul-24-06 02:23 PM   #21 
  - I was wondering, too, if they were going to submit this report to congress  8_year_nightmare   Jul-24-06 02:33 PM   #23 
  - In order to sue there must be a particular incident of transgression  TripeOmatic   Jul-24-06 08:49 PM   #29 
  - I'm sure our ever vigilant Congress is convening to discuss this as I type  spanone   Jul-24-06 02:25 PM   #22 
  - Indeed  Generator   Jul-24-06 02:36 PM   #24 
  - One more bushie SCOTUS judge and these signing statements will be  Nothing Without Hope   Jul-24-06 03:21 PM   #25 
  - Then a shift in Congressional power is urgent come this November  Blaze Diem   Jul-24-06 04:39 PM   #27 
  - No, paper ballots are *not* too much to ask!  tbyg52   Jul-25-06 09:47 AM   #40 
  - K & R  tom_paine   Jul-24-06 05:48 PM   #28 
  - wating anxiously for the first lawsuit  npincus   Jul-24-06 09:30 PM   #30 
  - Um, the ship has sailed on that  TOJ   Jul-24-06 09:57 PM   #32 
  - Media Kit-- link from DUer Norquist Nemesis  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 11:39 PM   #33 
  - I abhor saying, "no shit". But, NO SHIT!!! And WTF took you so long!!!  Just Me   Jul-24-06 11:44 PM   #34 
  - "Lawyers can be weak and manipulated"? Say it isn't so!  chill_wind   Jul-25-06 12:33 AM   #35 
     - The class action suit guy in the ad would never be weak and manipulated  quantessd   Jul-25-06 02:23 AM   #36 
  - I watched this press conference today.  fooj   Jul-25-06 03:47 AM   #37 
  - Well done, ABA. A shame Tyrants don't listen to pronouncements or law  tom_paine   Jul-25-06 04:05 AM   #38 
  - k&r  enough   Jul-25-06 06:14 AM   #39 
  - Better late than never I suppose.  progressoid   Jul-25-06 11:08 AM   #41 
 

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