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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 03:44 PM
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62. Ogletree to Specter: *"I think not only can you, I think you must." *
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 03:56 PM by chill_wind
"But Charles Ogletree, a Harvard Law School professor who is a member of the aba task force, gave different advice. "So you think we could draft a statute, take the president to court?" Specter asked him. "I think not only can you, I think you must," Ogletree replied."


OF COURSE we can expect Sen Stonewall Specter not to want to do this. The sense is that he is asking only just how much of a legal corner is he finally finding himelf in.

In related editorial piece and discussion on the ABA task force here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


Then the question becomes, what remedy do we have against Sen Specter if he continues to subvert and fails to act on the pronouncements by this legal body?

And what about the rest of the lawyers in Congress? They cannot hide or feign any further serious confusion about what is being said by the ABA task force about this matter.

What are the options of The People of the United States and our own legal bodies to force or penalize specifically assigned and responsible judiciary members in Congress to act? impeach? recall? sue?

Can the ABA disbar them? Anything? Anybody??
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  -Are you watching the ABA presentation on sgning statements? napi21  Jul-24-06 09:13 AM   #0 
  - Yes I'm watching! Isn't it wonderful? nt  snappyturtle   Jul-24-06 09:16 AM   #1 
  - "he" will ignore the law until somebody stops him -  msongs   Jul-24-06 09:17 AM   #2 
  - Stop me before I sign again...  kentuck   Jul-24-06 09:20 AM   #4 
  - Yes. We are in the midst of a genuine Constitutional Crisis.  annabanana   Jul-24-06 09:18 AM   #3 
  - Sad sigh, it's an tyranny enabling Congress that must deal with it.  HereSince1628   Jul-24-06 09:22 AM   #5 
  - If we expect the Dems on the Hill to do anything about this...  theHandpuppet   Jul-24-06 09:39 AM   #19 
     - What would you have them do?  Bandit   Jul-24-06 11:15 AM   #55 
  - K&R!  Poll_Blind   Jul-24-06 09:23 AM   #6 
  - Watching! Already thinking of the echo machine's talking points  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:24 AM   #7 
  - This Is VERY Signifigant! - Well Worth Watching  Dinger   Jul-24-06 09:24 AM   #8 
  - Thank you Dinger, for your input.  lumpy   Jul-24-06 09:47 AM   #32 
  - ITS IS NOT BUSH'S FAULT ALREADY!  antifaschits   Jul-24-06 09:26 AM   #9 
  - Best response: The buck stops at the pen of the Pres. n/t  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:28 AM   #12 
  - Q&A - Discrepancy between the 800 they say and the Boston  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:26 AM   #10 
  - There were 807 signing statements as of 7/11/06!!!!!  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:27 AM   #11 
  - Bringing up the torture statement memo  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:29 AM   #13 
  - ABA has to vote on the report next week  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:31 AM   #14 
  - As I noted on the other thread re: this press conference:  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 09:31 AM   #15 
  - Yup! n/t  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:36 AM   #17 
  - Signing stmts have become the Mantra of this Admin!  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:37 AM   # 
  - Signing stmts have become the Mantra of this Admin!  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:37 AM   #18 
  - Bringing up SCOTUS decision on Pres signing statements  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:35 AM   #16 
  - * used signing statements more than every other President  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 09:39 AM   #20 
  - Correction******  serryjw   Jul-24-06 07:19 PM   #65 
  - "Ignoring his oath of office"  DesertedRose   Jul-24-06 09:41 AM   #21 
  - This press conference isn't happening in that alternate universe at  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 09:41 AM   #22 
  - Of course not...who's going to listen to a bunch of lawyers?  DesertedRose   Jul-24-06 09:43 AM   #25 
  - WOW!!! President violated his oath of office if he signs a bill  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:42 AM   #23 
  - Impeach. Impeach. Impeach.  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 09:43 AM   #26 
  - Kicking them out is about our only hope at this point  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:46 AM   #30 
  - Unconstitutional?  tbyg52   Jul-25-06 08:57 AM   #69 
  - President is violating his oath of office!  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:42 AM   #24 
  - What Is A Signing Statement Exactly? (Please Keep It Simple : )  Dinger   Jul-24-06 09:44 AM   #27 
  - It's a statement attached to a bill by a president after signing  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 09:47 AM   #31 
  - When the Prez signs a bill into law, he, at the same time, writes  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:48 AM   #33 
     - That's what the blivet** has done with it but  Sydnie   Jul-24-06 09:59 AM   #40 
        - Thank you for that information to use against the argument  treestar   Jul-24-06 12:17 PM   #58 
  - Oh peachy! Fein's working with Specter "to draft a bill"  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 09:45 AM   #28 
  - BILL CLINTON DID THIS WORSE!!!!!!1111  datasuspect   Jul-24-06 09:45 AM   #29 
  - Someone Should Ask About Impeachment  Dinger   Jul-24-06 09:51 AM   #34 
  - Even if Congress is AFRAID to uphold their responsibility  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:52 AM   #35 
  - THEY HAVE TO DO IT!  AndyA   Jul-24-06 10:31 AM   #52 
  - Even if Congress is AFRAID to uphold their responsibility  napi21   Jul-24-06 09:52 AM   #36 
  - Stephen Saltzburg....  DesertedRose   Jul-24-06 09:53 AM   #37 
  - Kicking Again, To Keep This One Going ! (nt)  Dinger   Jul-24-06 09:58 AM   #38 
  - Just got to work... WOW!!!!!! k&r  The Witch   Jul-24-06 09:58 AM   #39 
  - "Administration has not been forthcoming"  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 10:03 AM   #41 
  - Darn, I just tuned in, Hope C-Span replays this later  DemReadingDU   Jul-24-06 10:05 AM   #42 
  - Folks, we have a serious Constitutional crisis on our hands  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 10:05 AM   #43 
  - We need to get Dobbs and KO to get this to their viewers  Skidmore   Jul-24-06 10:07 AM   #44 
     - ASAP!  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 10:08 AM   #48 
     - Link to Task Force Report and Media Kit  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 10:12 AM   #49 
     - Very valuable. Thank you. nt  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 10:45 PM   #68 
     - Dobbs ran it tonite. Dry as toast, but he did. nt  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 10:42 PM   #67 
  - Wald: It's going to be difficult to find party with standing  Norquist Nemesis   Jul-24-06 10:07 AM   #45 
  - This will matter..it's the ABA...  YvonneCa   Jul-24-06 10:07 AM   #46 
  - Final thought: GET UP OFF YOUR ASSES, MEDIA :-)  The Witch   Jul-24-06 10:08 AM   #47 
  - I Liked How In The Final Statement The Media Was Told To Do Their Job  Dinger   Jul-24-06 11:58 AM   #56 
  - Saw the whole thing. Now the question is:  trof   Jul-24-06 10:26 AM   #50 
  - In addition to writing your reps, we should also email the news  napi21   Jul-24-06 10:36 AM   #53 
     - Did so while watching...  YvonneCa   Jul-24-06 12:40 PM   #59 
  - Here is a link to the ABA report.  napi21   Jul-24-06 10:27 AM   #51 
  - Thanks For Posting This. Interesting Reading - Really!  Dinger   Jul-24-06 12:07 PM   #57 
  - I gather the ABA doesn't buy John Yoo's circular logic  BrotherBuzz   Jul-24-06 10:51 AM   #54 
  - Good stuff. Thnx! nt  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 04:38 PM   #63 
  - OK, but will "we the people" do about it?  smacky44   Jul-24-06 01:53 PM   #60 
  - Watch while our fearless leader IGNORES the ABA  spanone   Jul-24-06 02:28 PM   #61 
  - Ogletree to Specter: *"I think not only can you, I think you must." *  chill_wind   Jul-24-06 03:44 PM   #62 
  - Nothing will come of this  magellan   Jul-24-06 04:55 PM   #64 
  - KICKING  faithnotgreed   Jul-24-06 08:34 PM   #66 
 

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