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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:55 PM
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Connecting the dots -- this is a war about WATER
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In the last 24 hours -- separate posts on DU have contained the information for us to connect the dots.

This is a war about WATER.

Last night someone posted about Tucker Carlson asking why the Israeli side of the boarder was GREEN and the Lebanon side was BROWN. The Lebanese Ambassador said it was because Israel had diverted Lebanon's water long ago. This trigger my memory -- WATER issues were forecast as THE major reason for war in this century.

I remembered reading an article about Israel threatening Lebanon with War about diversion of water.

Sharon had in fact threatened Lebanon with war if water from the Hasbani River was diverted. That means water originating in Lebanon was not to be use by Lebanon on pain of war by Israel.

0 September, 2002, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK
Israel warns of war over water

Then someone else posts an article about Israel's war plans were set LONG before the soldiers were capture. In fact they had been planning for this war for some time.

The KGO liberal, late night talk show hosts were covering this topic last night as well.

Today a thread with this link was posted -- and within the link there was a link to a NEOCON website -- with a paper on WATER -- and the Middle east.

half way into the article we find this KEY paragraph:

All according to plan
The world has seen this movie before. The seed for understanding the New Middle East war was sown 10 years ago, in 1996. Everything keeps pointing back to the infamous paper "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm", prepared by neo-cons such as Richard Perle, David and Meyrav Wurmser and Douglas Feith for Likud hardliner Benyamin Netanyahu.

And here is the cherry on the ice cream -- the Neocon link

with this short passage (stay tuned for a Neocon list)

Thus, by targeting Israel's most vulnerable strategic asset, its dwindling water supplies, Syria has been able to position itself to profoundly influence Israel's bargaining posture over borders and security. This, more than any other factor, may be the reason why Israel has not committed itself to a written agreement regarding a redeployment to the June 4, 1967 line. To do so would be to signal an irrevocable surrender of both the Jordan River and the Kinneret. But renewed rhetoric in Israel seems to suggest that policy-makers are seriously considering just such a move. This would be a win-win situation for Syria. At best, Mr. Assad would not only score a major victory by gaining back the Golan, but also dramatically alter the water equation, and by extension the balance of power, between Israel and Syria. At the very least, the water issue could drive a wedge between Israel and Turkey.

As policy planners struggle to revive the Syrian-Israeli dialogue once again, resolving the topic of water remains the most difficult task for the two countries. It is also the most important. The way the water issue plays out will have major repercussions not only for Israel, but the region as a whole. The ensconcement of Syria on the Golan would allow Damascus not only to virtually dictate terms to Jerusalem, but exert influence over Amman and create a rift in the Israeli-Turkish military partnership as well. Given the signals made by Israel's continued efforts to reopen talks with Syria, Jerusalem has not yet understood the geopolitical significance of water to its relations with its neighbors. As a result, Mr. Assad has been given an incentive to continue to apply the appropriate pressure, diplomatic as well as military to achieve his goals.

Paul Michael Wihbey is a fellow at the Washington office of the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. Ilan Berman is a research associate at the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.

The plan for this current Israeli war is here

and now the list of neocons

Participants in the Study Group on "A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000:"

Richard Perle, American Enterprise Institute, Study Group Leader

James Colbert, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Johns Hopkins University/SAIS
Douglas Feith, Feith and Zell Associates
Robert Loewenberg, President, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Jonathan Torop, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
David Wurmser, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies
Meyrav Wurmser, Johns Hopkins University


I believe we now have the real motive for this war -- WATER.

Although I must say that the Hizbolla make great villains -- they are nasty looking people and they do really nasty things. What is to like --oh they do some good social work.

Ignore the magician -- try to see what we are not supposed to see.

STOP fighting among ourselves -- this is what the Neocons want. They know if they use the Israel victim card -- and play the emotional propaganda that we will turn on each other.

Right now the Israel people have bought into the skillful manipulation -- and the nasty evil Hizbolla has responded with missiles.

The real motive is WATER. And the real villain -- the NEOCONS.

We are being conned by cons.
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  -Connecting the dots -- this is a war about WATER DELUSIONAL  Jul-21-06 07:55 PM   #0 
  - And as global warming increases  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jul-21-06 07:57 PM   #1 
  - But...  frisky   Jul-21-06 07:58 PM   #2 
  - Irrigation, for one  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-06 08:03 PM   #3 
  - Good -- more resources! thanks -- I missed this the first time  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 08:08 PM   #7 
     - Do you think we could combine all the resource matl somewhere?  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-06 08:22 PM   #16 
        - start a journal -- and add water related posts to your journal  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 08:44 PM   #23 
           - Don't know if this is one of your links  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-06 09:10 PM   #25 
              - Problems and solutions -- good link with more maps  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 10:20 PM   #27 
  - that is covered in the various research links below  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 08:03 PM   #4 
  - Desalinization is EXPENSIVE  SoCalDem   Jul-21-06 08:10 PM   #8 
  - How many desalinization plants could they have built with the money they  w4rma   Jul-21-06 08:38 PM   #20 
     - You silly goose.. What waste money on stuff like that  SoCalDem   Jul-21-06 08:39 PM   #21 
  - Because their population is growing faster than they can build plants.  politicat   Jul-21-06 08:12 PM   #9 
  - Your post made me go "Hmmmmmm" because  itzamirakul   Jul-22-06 06:00 AM   #32 
     - I have been told...  druidity33   Jul-22-06 07:05 AM   #33 
     - LOL! Good point!  itzamirakul   Jul-22-06 08:10 AM   #34 
     - Tel Aviv is not the largest city, nor the most dense.  politicat   Jul-23-06 01:24 AM   #65 
  - About half of their water is used for agriculture..  girl gone mad   Jul-22-06 12:57 AM   #29 
  - Wasn't there also something about the Iraqi  Cleita   Jul-21-06 08:05 PM   #5 
  - I'm researching this now -- here's a map and a BBC link  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 08:13 PM   #10 
  - Rent the video's or read the book Cadillac Desert...  ourbluenation   Jul-21-06 08:07 PM   #6 
  - I saw a documentary recently about how the Dead Sea is drying up.  PA Democrat   Jul-21-06 08:15 PM   #11 
  - Here's a map - worth a thousand words  DELUSIONAL   Jul-21-06 08:20 PM   #14 
  - It makes sense that water is one reason but don't forget overpopulation &  wordpix2   Jul-22-06 03:39 PM   #52 
  - Dead Sea is the lowest, and is drying up, but Israel supplied  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 02:23 PM   #47 
  - The Zionists could not have picked a worse place to settle 6.5 million  whistle   Jul-21-06 08:18 PM   #12 
  - Palestinians could not have picked a worse place to overpopulate  wordpix2   Jul-22-06 03:42 PM   #54 
  - Not to mix in I/P issues, but...  Bushwick Bill   Jul-21-06 08:19 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-21-06 08:39 PM   #22 
  - You could well be right.  brokensymmetry   Jul-21-06 08:21 PM   #15 
  - well, if this was a motivation, it would explain why they want to invade  jsamuel   Jul-21-06 08:23 PM   #17 
  - Yep!  theHandpuppet   Jul-21-06 08:35 PM   #19 
  - I've been saying that water wasgoing to be the next gold or oil for  Sydnie   Jul-21-06 08:26 PM   #18 
  - had a teacher in high school say that in the '70s  kineneb   Jul-21-06 10:22 PM   #28 
  - A lot of people have been saying that..  girl gone mad   Jul-22-06 01:13 AM   #30 
  - Gorbachov spoke about this 2 years ago  n2doc   Jul-21-06 09:03 PM   #24 
  - So: they in effect move the boundary into Lebanon or make a  Nothing Without Hope   Jul-21-06 09:38 PM   #26 
  - Water has always been something people have fought for so this being....  WePurrsevere   Jul-22-06 05:08 AM   #31 
  - Correct  malaise   Jul-22-06 08:14 AM   #35 
  - Someone make a flyer....NO BLOOD FOR WATER!  Joanne98   Jul-22-06 11:27 AM   #36 
  - Water privatization  NYC   Jul-22-06 06:15 PM   #62 
  - K & R for making me go "hmmmm....."  Pacifist Patriot   Jul-22-06 11:56 AM   #37 
  - CIA: "...water-surplus state in a water-deficit region"  KansDem   Jul-22-06 12:14 PM   #38 
  - New link for cia publications fact book  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 01:55 PM   #43 
  - This is what it says.  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 01:59 PM   #44 
     - Thanks...(eom)  KansDem   Jul-22-06 02:09 PM   #45 
  - Water is the next Oil....  Triana   Jul-22-06 12:50 PM   #39 
  - Also About Getting More "War On Terra" Support In The US  K8-EEE   Jul-22-06 01:04 PM   #40 
  - I agree with you.  kimchi   Jul-22-06 01:24 PM   #41 
  - I'm not surprised, since I'd heard that water would be an issue  TheGoldenRule   Jul-22-06 01:31 PM   #42 
  - Wikipedia info re sea of Galillee, not much about it's current condition.  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 02:21 PM   #46 
  - current condition: Dangerously low at times  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 02:39 PM   #48 
  - At least a war over water makes sense.  Kablooie   Jul-22-06 03:30 PM   #49 
  - Terra terra terra. Load of crap.  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 03:32 PM   #50 
  - A great thread...  Hubert Flottz   Jul-22-06 03:34 PM   #51 
  - I don't know, but thought this one was pretty excellent  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 03:41 PM   #53 
     - You're right another excellent thread!  Hubert Flottz   Jul-22-06 04:26 PM   #56 
        - Yes! They know.  lonestarnot   Jul-22-06 05:56 PM   #59 
  - This was a big issue in 2002 with Lebanon apparently.  gatorboy   Jul-22-06 03:48 PM   #55 
  - I've posted extensively on the central issue of control of water in Iraq.  understandinglife   Jul-22-06 05:24 PM   #57 
  - may I introduce this thread from last evening this very thing  alyce douglas   Jul-22-06 05:44 PM   #58 
  - Finally. A thread with substance.  Donailin   Jul-22-06 06:01 PM   #60 
  - I didn't consider this but hey, we only get M$M Whores in the USA eom  ShortnFiery   Jul-22-06 06:03 PM   #61 
  - This post could be an epiphany for some. I recommend.  niallmac   Jul-22-06 07:30 PM   #63 
  - Kick and recommend  Nikki Stone 1   Jul-22-06 08:09 PM   #64 
  - "WHY CARE ABOUT LEBANON? "  Emit   Jul-23-06 07:25 PM   #66 

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