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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. But, but, "no new attacks since 9/11!"
What are these "sleeper cells" waiting for?
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  -Jd Hayworth is right about shutting down these borders peanutbrittle  Jan-17-06 06:07 PM   #0 
  - O.K. I'll just sit here and...  babylonsister   Jan-17-06 06:10 PM   #1 
  - wanna share your popcorn with this guy?  SoCalDem   Jan-17-06 06:16 PM   #4 
     - Why? Does he work on the  babylonsister   Jan-17-06 06:30 PM   #7 
        - Yep.. He mans the....  SoCalDem   Jan-17-06 06:32 PM   #8 
        - ROFL! nt  babylonsister   Jan-17-06 06:33 PM   #9 
        - Jalapeno popcorn!  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 06:37 PM   #12 
  - The reason people come here  Maestro   Jan-17-06 06:14 PM   #2 
  - There's no question that it's the cheap-labor employers at the core  TahitiNut   Jan-17-06 06:57 PM   #20 
  - I totally agree n/t  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:06 PM   #26 
  - I'm not so sure about the minimum wage thing.  donco6   Jan-17-06 08:27 PM   #79 
  - Some states (not Colorado), mostly 'blue' states, have higher minimum ...  TahitiNut   Jan-17-06 10:21 PM   #152 
     - Wow. I had no idea.  donco6   Jan-17-06 10:51 PM   #161 
        - You're sure welcome. Note also that SEASONAL and DOMESTIC workers  TahitiNut   Jan-17-06 11:01 PM   #165 
  - You're exactly right.  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 02:18 PM   #189 
  - Clinton's administration caught a group of terrorists  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 07:49 PM   #53 
  - Maestro, the reason I'm sitting this out is here:  babylonsister   Jan-17-06 07:53 PM   #58 
  - I understand Maestro's points  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:13 PM   #70 
  - This post is total BS.  Cleita   Jan-17-06 08:34 PM   #86 
  - Some of the 9/11 hijackers and planners were here in AZ  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 02:15 PM   #188 
     - You get news alerts about 9/11 hijackers?  proud2Blib   Jan-18-06 11:16 PM   #205 
     - Many terrorists come through Mexico?  Maestro   Jan-19-06 06:06 AM   #207 
  - One doesn't run into this country....  catnhatnh   Jan-17-06 06:15 PM   #3 
  - The same thing ..  sendero   Jan-17-06 06:21 PM   #5 
  - Yup, all those OTMs and Ms coming over here  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 06:22 PM   #6 
  - Let me tell you something  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 06:56 PM   #19 
     - you wouldn't have a great country or industry without the contributions  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:01 PM   #22 
     - You are confusing immigrants with illegal immigrants and the danger  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:10 PM   #30 
        - no I'm not  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:13 PM   #31 
           - Look, my main point is that it is unfathomable  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:19 PM   #37 
              - different issue which requires a committment to law enforcement which  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:32 PM   #43 
                 - The Mexican people are in desperate need of a better life.  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:41 PM   #48 
                    - ridiculous  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:48 PM   #52 
                       - The Mexican government can create the atmosphere for industry to flourish  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:02 PM   #62 
                          - Are you familiar with the history of Mexico?  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 10:29 PM   #155 
                             - I hear you  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 11:04 PM   #166 
                                - Corruption on both sides of the border  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 11:17 PM   #169 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-06 09:13 PM   #108 
        - The issue isn't race. It's the dangers illegality of a porous border. n/t  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:24 PM   #116 
           - dangers illegality??  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:42 PM   #132 
  - illegals  bigtree   Jan-17-06 06:36 PM   #10 
  - And don't forget "OTM"  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 06:37 PM   #13 
  - They are breaking our law  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:00 PM   #21 
     - we break laws in our necessary protests sometimes.  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:08 PM   #28 
     - Illegal Immigrants  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:14 PM   #33 
        - The numbers and facts researched don't matter more than your own bias?  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:21 PM   #38 
        - 600,000 ILLEGAL immigrants in florida  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:29 PM   #42 
           - you cited the economy and terrorism as your primary concerns  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:36 PM   #45 
           - The sheer numbers have lowered the living wage standards in many industrie  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:44 PM   #50 
              - true, but overall the effect is that these folks enhance our economy  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:50 PM   #54 
              - I think it has been proven that isn't true.  barb162   Jan-17-06 08:51 PM   #92 
              - You got a link?  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:02 PM   #97 
              - How do they do that other than sales tax?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:05 PM   #101 
              - They work and taxes are withheld, just like me  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:30 PM   #125 
              - what are they using for Social Security numbers on their tax forms?  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:08 PM   #106 
              - You never heard of buying a fake social security card?  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:38 PM   #128 
                 - Um, it's illegal.  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:17 PM   #147 
                    - So is murder and robbery and driving while intoxicated  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 10:20 PM   #149 
                       - And they get locked up when they are caught  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:28 PM   #154 
                          - And illegals are sent back to where they came from  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 10:56 PM   #164 
                             - Why would you think I think that?  barb162   Jan-17-06 11:05 PM   #167 
                                - Knock knock anyone home?  proud2Blib   Jan-18-06 12:06 AM   #173 
                                - Knock knock that's why a fully staffed border patrol  barb162   Jan-18-06 12:24 AM   #176 
                                - So do they shoot to kill or just to maim?  proud2Blib   Jan-18-06 12:33 AM   #177 
                                - Tell me something...  barb162   Jan-18-06 12:50 AM   #178 
                                - Do you understand the meaning of the  proud2Blib   Jan-18-06 08:58 AM   #180 
                                - I wish the emotion level could be toned down a few notches  barb162   Jan-18-06 12:40 PM   #183 
              - Illegal Immigration Costs California $10.5 Billion Annually  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:12 PM   #107 
              - Do you know *anything* about FAIR...  tishaLA   Jan-18-06 01:02 PM   #186 
              - Government To Reimburse Hospitals for Emergency Care for Illegal Aliens  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:26 PM   #120 
                 - Yep, we should just let them  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 10:02 PM   #142 
                    - Of course they shouldn't be allowed to die. They should be treated  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:27 PM   #153 
                       - And we have had this discussion on DU so many times I can't count  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 10:52 PM   #162 
                       - see post 146 which contains a study by a U of Florida  barb162   Jan-17-06 11:13 PM   #168 
                          - Well it has enriched my little corner of the world  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 11:41 PM   #172 
                       - They are playing the straw man game.  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:07 PM   #193 
              - you ignore the sales taxes they pay and the money they put back into the  bigtree   Jan-17-06 09:04 PM   #100 
                 - I think the sales tax comes out to next to nothing.  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:16 PM   #146 
                    - Immigrants Pay their Fair Share  bigtree   Jan-17-06 10:31 PM   #156 
                       - yours is a 2001 study by U of Fl. Mine is from 2005 by Uof Florida  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:56 PM   #163 
              - Illegal Immigration Costs Florida $4.3 Billion a Year, Report Says  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:00 PM   #95 
              - looks like you're left with conservative sources  bigtree   Jan-17-06 09:19 PM   #112 
              - If there is something else out there I would be interested  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:26 PM   #119 
                 - I did some work in a post above. It's not my premise to defend  bigtree   Jan-17-06 09:42 PM   #130 
              - try this  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:54 PM   #136 
                 - they ignored the sales taxes that the poor pay more of as they spend more  bigtree   Jan-17-06 10:18 PM   #148 
                    - see post 146 which contains a huge file done by a U. of Florida  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:33 PM   #157 
                       - to get a job they need a ss card, a fake one which allows them to pay tax  bigtree   Jan-17-06 10:51 PM   #160 
                          - I gotta laugh /cry when you mention the fake SS card.  barb162   Jan-17-06 11:27 PM   #170 
                             - you laugh, but these are the ways that folks survive  bigtree   Jan-18-06 12:12 AM   #174 
                                - You make exellent points but my priority is with American citizens  barb162   Jan-18-06 08:36 PM   #204 
              - Come to a border state and see if you still think it's a good idea  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:03 PM   #192 
              - Show me where they have lowered the 'living wage standards'.  tyedyeto   Jan-17-06 09:56 PM   #138 
                 - phrased wrong maybe  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 10:12 PM   #144 
                 - You obviously don't live where illegals work in construction  tyedyeto   Jan-17-06 10:21 PM   #150 
                 - Yes. And illegal immigrants work for below the minimum wage often.  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:19 PM   #194 
           - Good lord, is that the only figure you have?  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:17 PM   #110 
              - LOL  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:40 PM   #129 
                 - hehehehehe -- thanks  LostinVA   Jan-18-06 06:09 AM   #179 
        - So you have a problem with 3-4 families living in a house together?  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 07:52 PM   #57 
           - It's illegal. period n/t  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:03 PM   #63 
           - So is driving over the speed limit  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:06 PM   #65 
           - I'm sorry but it's not playing on a fair playing field  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:18 PM   #74 
              - No it is not  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:20 PM   #76 
                 - It's unsafe  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:21 PM   #78 
                 - PROVE IT  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:42 PM   #89 
                 - NOT like they do.  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:32 PM   #196 
           - You know I just realized no, it isn't illegal  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:08 PM   #66 
              - There are occupancy regulations in single  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:20 PM   #77 
                 - Not in my city  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:39 PM   #88 
                 - Or mine  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:18 PM   #111 
                 - We have the same thing here, occupancy standards to prevent.  barb162   Jan-17-06 10:39 PM   #159 
           - They aren't choosing to live like that!  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:29 PM   #195 
     - Hey I got a job for ya  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 07:13 PM   #32 
        - Is his employee legal or illegal? I'm sure he could find a legal juvenile  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:16 PM   #35 
           - He could find a legal juvenile  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 07:23 PM   #40 
              - So you are condoning illegal immigration? When they illegally  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:33 PM   #44 
                 - I don't condemn anyone for trying to feed their family  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 07:52 PM   #55 
                    - problem doesn't exist?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:09 PM   #67 
                       - Employers aren't part of the problem  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 08:14 PM   #72 
  - Big agribusiness  alarimer   Jan-17-06 06:36 PM   #11 
  - It's not only agribusiness  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:02 PM   #23 
  - You're right of course  alarimer   Jan-17-06 08:58 PM   #94 
  - If I wanted to live with closed borders  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 07:55 PM   #59 
  - Is he still on Hannity and Colmes three time a week? n/t  Lusted4   Jan-17-06 06:39 PM   #14 
  - They're needed for jobs Americans "won't do" ie,  gulfcoastliberal   Jan-17-06 06:41 PM   #15 
  - God that is an uncanny resemblance!  Southpawkicker   Jan-17-06 06:44 PM   #17 
  - BS n/t  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:02 PM   #24 
  - Was this a hit and run post?  Southpawkicker   Jan-17-06 06:42 PM   #16 
  - It is a problem  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:05 PM   #25 
     - peanutbrittle, I do not agree with you...  two gun sid   Jan-17-06 07:15 PM   #34 
     - You don't know who they are. My main point is that the borders are still  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:22 PM   #39 
     - That's assuming 9/11 wasn't aided and abetted by  Southpawkicker   Jan-17-06 08:32 PM   #84 
     - Actually it's both. Without the illegals and the boss,  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:06 PM   #103 
        - I blame the bosses totally.  two gun sid   Jan-17-06 09:21 PM   #113 
           - I don't blame you. They are greedy bastards IMO,  barb162   Jan-17-06 11:33 PM   #171 
     - when Bill Clinton was president all incomes rose  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:19 PM   #36 
     - I'm not blaming them. I'm blaming the system a calling  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:25 PM   #41 
        - someone killed?  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:40 PM   #47 
           - I'm talking about terrorist activity crossing our borders and  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:42 PM   #49 
              - could happen. I still don't think the solution is the expulsion and  bigtree   Jan-17-06 07:52 PM   #56 
              - No you're not, you're talking about "illegals"  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:23 PM   #115 
                 - So what do you propose to do...nothing?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:28 PM   #122 
     - Doubt it!  Southpawkicker   Jan-17-06 08:30 PM   #82 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-17-06 06:46 PM   #18 
  - How do you know there are not?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:07 PM   #27 
     - But, but, "no new attacks since 9/11!"  Bluebear   Jan-17-06 07:10 PM   #29 
     - boom  bpilgrim   Jan-17-06 08:19 PM   #75 
  - The abundance of ILLEGAL immigrants storming across the border  Kansas Wyatt   Jan-17-06 07:38 PM   #46 
  - Thank you ....and to add  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 07:47 PM   #51 
     - WHAT TERRORIST ACTIVITY????  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 07:59 PM   #60 
        - shhhhhh  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 08:01 PM   #61 
        - But, but, I am wondering if I should go watch I-35  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:05 PM   #64 
           - OMG  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 08:13 PM   #71 
           - Watch out! I done heared they dress like migrant workers  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:25 PM   #117 
           - They may be carrying almanacs, too! nt  Bluebear   Jan-17-06 08:33 PM   #85 
              - OMG!! Would they be SPANISH almanacs???  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:43 PM   #90 
        - You are being naive IMO  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:36 PM   #87 
        - No you are the naive one  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 08:50 PM   #91 
           - This is where I will stop. n/t  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:55 PM   #93 
           - You don't believe that illegal immigration is a legitimate debate?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:03 PM   #98 
              - I thought you were going to stop  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:26 PM   #118 
                 - So what do you propose to do...nothing?  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:31 PM   #126 
                    - I celebrate the diversity in our society  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:32 PM   #127 
        - 5 of the WTC hijackers came through the Canadian border illegally  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:38 PM   #197 
  - Here's where you went wrong.  skids   Jan-17-06 08:10 PM   #68 
  - I don't have a problem with being scrutinized  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 08:28 PM   #81 
  - Also, having multiple replies of "you will not convince me otherwise" in a  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jan-17-06 09:21 PM   #114 
     - I really don't care how it's received  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:46 PM   #133 
        - I have no doubt that you don't care how it's received, LOL.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jan-17-06 09:50 PM   #134 
  - For the last time we can't secure any of the borders. We never  Cleita   Jan-17-06 08:12 PM   #69 
  - Egh? What's that you say, J.D. Hayworth is worthless? You got that right  lonestarnot   Jan-17-06 08:14 PM   #73 
  - Desperate, poor people, trying to survive are our "enemy".  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-17-06 08:27 PM   #80 
  - They aren't our enemy  barb162   Jan-17-06 09:03 PM   #99 
  - Deal With Illegal Immigration By Addressing Demand, Not Supply  loindelrio   Jan-17-06 08:31 PM   #83 
  - anyone thats supports open borders  alfred e bush   Jan-17-06 09:01 PM   #96 
     - And anyone that supports walls around our country  Horse with no Name   Jan-17-06 09:06 PM   #102 
     - *yawn*  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:28 PM   #121 
     - Or they just must enjoy living in a free country  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:54 PM   #135 
  - Some things never change  RGBolen   Jan-17-06 09:07 PM   #104 
  - Yup -- my mom's family si Irish, and I've heard the stories  LostinVA   Jan-17-06 09:29 PM   #124 
  - Allow me to add this to your post:  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:56 PM   #137 
  - Where do you live?  tyedyeto   Jan-17-06 09:08 PM   #105 
  - The Mexican border is the most porous and the most at risk  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:16 PM   #109 
  - JD Hayworth is still a repuke of the worst sort.  tyedyeto   Jan-17-06 09:28 PM   #123 
     - I equivocate Hayworth with guys like Feeney of FL  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 09:42 PM   #131 
  - Allow me to answer your question:  proud2Blib   Jan-17-06 09:57 PM   #139 
     - I'm ROTFLMAO  tyedyeto   Jan-17-06 10:00 PM   #140 
  - Borders that keep others out can keep us IN...  Nikki Stone 1   Jan-17-06 10:01 PM   #141 
  - hopefully OK will subsidize the $9b cross border economy  mitchtv   Jan-17-06 10:06 PM   #143 
  - what would you suggest  Innocent Smith   Jan-17-06 10:13 PM   #145 
  - Sheila Jackson Lee {D} TX, on illegal immigration  nomatrix   Jan-17-06 10:21 PM   #151 
  - Thank you..I'm listening to this now  peanutbrittle   Jan-17-06 10:34 PM   #158 
  - Sheila Jackson said that we needed better funding for the  Cleita   Jan-18-06 12:31 PM   #182 
     - Nice slap, Clieta.  nomatrix   Jan-18-06 06:32 PM   #202 
        - Since I posted that I have accessed and am reading  Cleita   Jan-18-06 06:43 PM   #203 
  - Has she mentioned the other illegal immigrants, the European  Cleita   Jan-18-06 12:14 PM   #181 
  - yep  july302001   Jan-18-06 12:16 AM   #175 
  - I dont like to get into these illegal immigration arguments  pointblank   Jan-18-06 12:41 PM   #184 
  - This won't be popular here on DU  hogwyld   Jan-18-06 01:00 PM   #185 
  - Excellent post. Thank you for sharing.  AZBlue   Jan-18-06 03:42 PM   #198 
     - Thanks! Nice to know  hogwyld   Jan-18-06 04:14 PM   #200 
  - We're something like 70 miles north of the border  Disorganized   Jan-18-06 02:05 PM   #187 
  - Janet Napolitano is going to steal J.D.'s thunder.  Balbus   Jan-18-06 02:21 PM   #190 
  - JD Hayworth is slime...but nonetheless  HughLefty1   Jan-18-06 02:34 PM   #191 
  - I am sensitive...  dryan   Jan-18-06 03:43 PM   #199 
     - I'm beginning to wonder if Fox doesn't have something  peanutbrittle   Jan-18-06 04:23 PM   #201 
  - A few quick links that debunk some of the anti-immigrant  Maestro   Jan-19-06 06:04 AM   #206 
  - Fuckin' A.  Jim Sagle   Jan-20-06 08:41 PM   #208 
 

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