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Wed Jul-19-06 01:55 AM
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103. I could be wrong...

But I think that there are far fewer hard-liners, on either side of the issue, then what the responses within threads seem to suggest.

When I came to DU I thought that Israel was far more innocent then I do now. Now I see a whole lot of gray. I think that is how the majority of posters feel, of course with many shades of gray. But it seems as though the discussions degenerate into people assuming that they other person holds one side completely innocent and the other totally culpable, which usually isn't true of the person who is being accused of that.

There may be a handful of posters who believe that Israel is completely innocent. There may be a handful who believe that Israel is completely culpable. I truly doubt, though, that any here believe that H'zbollah or Hamas are wonderful organizations.

I could be wrong, but I think that most of us see the horror that is happening in the ME in shades of gray as to who is the bad guy and we just want the killing to stop.

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I don't know how to say this	cali	Jul-18-06 11:03 PM	#0
Hatred of Israel over Palestine blinds some people with Hezbollah N/T	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:06 PM	#1
Bull	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:08 PM	#3
You may find it unimaginable but simply check out some of the posts of DU	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:11 PM	#8
Since the first bomb being dropped in this conflict was dropped on a beach	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:14 PM	#12
Was that before or after Palestinian militants attacked Israelis and took	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:15 PM	#15
The little girl lost her family to the bomb before Israel took captive	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:20 PM	#24
Over the last 7 months Hamas has fired over 800 rockets into Israel	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:29 PM	#37
Israel does keep saying it is dropping bombs	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:40 PM	#45
OUTSIDE CONFIRMATION	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:43 PM	#48
An old lost and forgotten rocket went off	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:53 PM	#65
Please dont selectively read	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:55 PM	#66
Please don't selectively edit, the Israeli army said that	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:05 AM	#71
Try this then...	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:07 AM	#73
The two Arab shepherds were killed by the old musty rocket	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:24 AM	#81
I thought the article was REALLY misleading	blonndee	Jul-19-06 12:25 AM	#82
Nah, reread the article with your glasses.	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:29 AM	#84
This debate is stupid because	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:41 AM	#87
Just cause he reports on stuff you dont like to hear doesnt make	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:42 AM	#88
Hey, if it's true I'll accept it and I think the other poster would too	blonndee	Jul-19-06 12:44 AM	#90
Lol, my college paper does awesome stories on different ways to smoke weed	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:48 AM	#92
Well, I would but that's probably the copy editor	blonndee	Jul-19-06 12:50 AM	#93
He reports on a bunch of "he said/she said" type of stuff. No facts	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:51 AM	#94
And I propose again...	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:54 AM	#96
Who said they didn't. We don't know because the article is so bad.	Robbien	Jul-19-06 01:03 AM	#97
Is the article really so bad that it is impossible for reading	akushuki	Jul-19-06 01:06 AM	#98
If one is reading for facts they wouldn't find any in it.	Robbien	Jul-19-06 01:12 AM	#99
Interestingly	akushuki	Jul-19-06 01:14 AM	#100
Yeah, and who does Judith Miller work for?	Robbien	Jul-19-06 01:29 AM	#101
HAMAS was lobbing bombs at Israel BEFORE that bomb hit the beach.	in_cog_ni_to	Jul-18-06 11:31 PM	#40
According to washingtonpost.com, that's not what happened.	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:36 PM	#42
It leaves out the following...	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:41 PM	#46
Okay, here's one that goes back to August 2005	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:47 PM	#52
So Militants piss off Israel and Israel bombs the shit out of them and	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:50 PM	#57
Militants piss off Israel and Israel bombs private citizens	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:10 AM	#76
Thats bullshit and you know it.	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:13 AM	#77
So did Israel or did it not purposefully bomb	blonndee	Jul-19-06 12:20 AM	#78
Thats only one article I cant really find it a mention on any other news	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:26 AM	#83
Here is one from Reuters	blonndee	Jul-19-06 12:43 AM	#89
Thanks for the second article...	akushuki	Jul-19-06 12:45 AM	#91
We dropped hundreds of bombs on Iraq to take out one "target"	Robbien	Jul-19-06 12:31 AM	#85
I believe Israel over a bunch of terrorists, like Hamas.	in_cog_ni_to	Jul-18-06 11:51 PM	#59
Now the Washington Post is "terrorists?" What? nt	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:53 PM	#64
delete-wrong place	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:52 PM	#62
Hamas doesn't have bombs. It has rockets	Robbien	Jul-18-06 11:42 PM	#47
Ah, yes. Rockets don't kill. Got it. n/t	in_cog_ni_to	Jul-18-06 11:52 PM	#61
When those bombs are killing Palestinians	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:13 PM	#11
Baloney.	amBushed	Jul-18-06 11:23 PM	#29
I'm pretty sure most DUers are quite aware that	YOY	Jul-18-06 11:08 PM	#2
Whacking a hornet's nest just pisses off the hornets.	MarkDevin	Jul-18-06 11:09 PM	#5
That's exactly the point I was trying to make Mark	YOY	Jul-18-06 11:10 PM	#7
One of the polls I saw had "both sides are wrong"	LittleClarkie	Jul-18-06 11:10 PM	#6
Yep...	Scurrilous	Jul-19-06 12:08 AM	#74
who said anyone was supporting Hezbollah...	Endangered Specie	Jul-18-06 11:09 PM	#4
Don't you know?	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:15 PM	#13
no I thought it just made us Nazis	Endangered Specie	Jul-19-06 02:47 AM	#107
I Haven't Either...Find A Pro-Hezbollah Post!!!	K8-EEE	Jul-18-06 11:15 PM	#14
Did you guys try clicking the link in the original poster's post?	akushuki	Jul-18-06 11:16 PM	#18
So...	melnjones	Jul-18-06 11:51 PM	#58
Sure she was	cali	Jul-18-06 11:56 PM	#67
Yes and it also is a way to discuss WHY people in the region	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:58 PM	#68
duh.	cali	Jul-18-06 11:22 PM	#27
No, there is not one	Erika	Jul-18-06 11:23 PM	#28
to even equate israel with hezbollah	adriennui	Jul-18-06 11:28 PM	#35
One: I dont equate Israel with Hezbollah...	Endangered Specie	Jul-19-06 02:21 AM	#106
Who the hell are you to tell people who to	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:12 PM	#9
one or two people mention they like the humanitarian efforts of	jonnyblitz	Jul-18-06 11:16 PM	#16
It's degenerated into questioning whether we might be terrorists now.	blonndee	Jul-18-06 11:17 PM	#20
So I guess its only that someone lob rockets at Israel...	Cvortex_10	Jul-18-06 11:17 PM	#19
Great post	Erika	Jul-18-06 11:19 PM	#21
That's a ridiculous and unfounded accusation	cali	Jul-18-06 11:19 PM	#22
And I challenge YOU to find a post	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:24 PM	#31
Wow, I wish I would have said that!	amBushed	Jul-18-06 11:25 PM	#32
Thanks, I guess I've just had	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:33 PM	#41
this sounds about right to me ...	welshTerrier2	Jul-18-06 11:12 PM	#10
I have always admired Tikkun n/t	AnOhioan	Jul-18-06 11:19 PM	#23
I just think it is their fight and I don't give a shit. nt	TomInTib	Jul-18-06 11:16 PM	#17
But our taxes are paying for their military warring	Erika	Jul-18-06 11:21 PM	#25
Funny, I was going to mention our funding...	TomInTib	Jul-18-06 11:29 PM	#38
to hell with them all	L0oniX	Jul-19-06 12:20 AM	#80
Hey, LOonix...	TomInTib	Jul-19-06 12:33 AM	#86
Nice distortion--straw man at work!	amBushed	Jul-18-06 11:22 PM	#26
Strawman? LOL	cali	Jul-18-06 11:24 PM	#30
You are being dishonest. Here's what you quoted:	amBushed	Jul-18-06 11:31 PM	#39
Sorry. First of all the subject matter title was	cali	Jul-18-06 11:39 PM	#44
That's TRUE. He was posting to ME on a thread. I asked him if he supported	in_cog_ni_to	Jul-19-06 12:53 AM	#95
I'm also sick of the maiming and killing in the name of God	Erika	Jul-18-06 11:25 PM	#33
I love Isreal	Alcibiades	Jul-18-06 11:26 PM	#34
Love Israel? Send your paycheck to them	Erika	Jul-18-06 11:28 PM	#36
We already do	Alcibiades	Jul-18-06 11:51 PM	#60
I clicked on that link. VERY STRANGE. No thread.	Notorious Bohemian	Jul-18-06 11:38 PM	#43
here	Behind the Aegis	Jul-18-06 11:44 PM	#49
Of course it's a real thread. I just clicked it on and there it was n/t	cali	Jul-18-06 11:45 PM	#50
And this thread is a call-out, which is against DU rules.	Zhade	Jul-18-06 11:46 PM	#51
Damed if he does/damned if he doesn't.	Behind the Aegis	Jul-18-06 11:48 PM	#53
I read thread after thread in which	cali	Jul-18-06 11:53 PM	#63
For all I know, it could be a glitch - in either DU or my	Notorious Bohemian	Jul-19-06 12:03 AM	#70
When I clicked on it, all I got was that one post.	Notorious Bohemian	Jul-18-06 11:48 PM	#54
Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-18-06 11:49 PM	#55
.	Behind the Aegis	Jul-18-06 11:50 PM	#56
How kind of you to leave out half of that post...	melnjones	Jul-19-06 12:02 AM	#69
Supporting H'zbollah is supporting the most oppresive kind	cali	Jul-19-06 12:06 AM	#72
Samir Kuntar	impeachdubya	Jul-19-06 12:09 AM	#75
If your intent was a genuine plea, why did you only post part of	Spazito	Jul-19-06 12:20 AM	#79
Because being honest will always undermine their position	burythehatchet	Jul-19-06 01:42 AM	#102
I could be wrong...	me b zola	Jul-19-06 01:55 AM	#103
amen	nashville_brook	Jul-19-06 02:17 AM	#104
Well said, Cali. When bombs are falling all around, clarity is scarce	Hekate	Jul-19-06 02:20 AM	#105
Callout	lostnfound	Jul-19-06 05:48 AM	#108

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