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voter x (203 posts)

Wed Jul-19-06 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #146

151. genocide on what scale?

"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.<1>"
Raphael Lemkin

So then Nagasaki and Hiroshima qualify as genocide as well, no?

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Are Hezbollah and Israel morally equivalent?	Clarkie1	Jul-18-06 02:21 PM	#0
YOU MUST BE KIDDING!!!!	voter x	Jul-18-06 02:22 PM	#1
Why?	Bleachers7	Jul-18-06 02:22 PM	#2
Because	voter x	Jul-18-06 02:24 PM	#3
There are none	Bleachers7	Jul-18-06 02:25 PM	#5
huh?	bloom	Jul-18-06 02:55 PM	#36
Which country was that?	voter x	Jul-18-06 03:00 PM	#44
I am sure that the people who were living there	bloom	Jul-18-06 04:18 PM	#61
go on and enlighten me with your knowledge....	voter x	Jul-18-06 04:27 PM	#63
As if you would believe anything other than the propaganda	bloom	Jul-18-06 04:35 PM	#64
oh really...	voter x	Jul-18-06 04:43 PM	#65
Well you know what	bloom	Jul-18-06 05:34 PM	#73
thanks for educating me...	voter x	Jul-18-06 06:06 PM	#74
Perhaps that's why Israelis also dislike Palestinian christians, since..	Leopolds Ghost	Jul-18-06 07:56 PM	#84
Bullshit it isn't the Lebanese people they're targeting!	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:41 PM	#94
Jews left, for whatever reason, after the Bar Kochba uprising	mycritters2	Jul-18-06 06:37 PM	#78
And for how many THOUSANDS of years were the Jews there?	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:50 AM	#100
That will matter when you move away from wherever you live,	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 01:08 PM	#122
Actually, it probably wasn't a lot longer than that	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 02:15 PM	#125
Again, you're wrong on your history	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 02:20 PM	#126
thanks, I too love Wikipedia.	voter x	Jul-19-06 02:44 PM	#130
Wikipedia, Hell	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 03:22 PM	#132
sure,	voter x	Jul-19-06 03:35 PM	#135
A covenant is a two-way street	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 04:07 PM	#136
unfortunately	voter x	Jul-19-06 04:15 PM	#137
Rationalizing violations of Torah won't help	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 04:51 PM	#141
the last thing I do	voter x	Jul-19-06 05:03 PM	#142
Who said anything about lengthy exposition?	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 05:14 PM	#143
not you,	voter x	Jul-19-06 05:57 PM	#150
I hope it won't	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 06:05 PM	#152
You are MISTAKEN	hawkowl88	Jul-19-06 12:55 PM	#121
It's damn past time to	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:37 PM	#93
The oppressed have become the oppressors	martymar64	Jul-19-06 05:30 PM	#146
genocide on what scale?	voter x	Jul-19-06 06:02 PM	#151
Amen!	omenapoint	Jul-19-06 12:36 PM	#119
FIND THE FACTS	pcoresearch	Jul-19-06 03:23 PM	#133
The OP learned a very biased polling technique	AnOhioan	Jul-18-06 11:31 PM	#91
Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-18-06 02:25 PM	#4
The length of that red bar is a measure of the level naivite here on DU.	Clarkie1	Jul-18-06 02:27 PM	#6
Well its good to see you setup a poll just so you could belittle anyone	Bretttido	Jul-18-06 02:28 PM	#9
Exactly right. Excellent poll, btw.	T Town Jake	Jul-18-06 02:31 PM	#12
I too am disgusted to see DUers...	Scurrilous	Jul-18-06 02:57 PM	#40
I'm disgusted with anti-semitism in general.	Leopolds Ghost	Jul-18-06 08:02 PM	#85
Me too, unfortunately.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:51 AM	#101
Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-18-06 06:25 PM	#75
This is nothing but flamebait.	Bretttido	Jul-18-06 02:27 PM	#7
Because it is better for us to avoid ugly truths	bryant69	Jul-18-06 02:29 PM	#10
the History of the Jews	voter x	Jul-18-06 02:34 PM	#20
OK. I don't know you are talking about, but ok.	bryant69	Jul-18-06 02:43 PM	#30
in reference to your illusion comment	voter x	Jul-18-06 02:52 PM	#35
Which gives them NO right to turn around and	liberalhistorian	Jul-18-06 11:43 PM	#95
Not another race	mycritters2	Jul-19-06 03:23 PM	#134
I agree n/t	Pepper32	Jul-18-06 02:55 PM	#37
I Agree (nt)	stepnw1f	Jul-18-06 03:02 PM	#45
This may get locked	bryant69	Jul-18-06 02:27 PM	#8
what's with the bait and switch?	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 02:29 PM	#11
If Hezbolla had nukes, the question would be answered in one word...	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:31 PM	#13
They are hate-filled religious fanatics and wouldn't hesitate to use nukes	MGD	Jul-18-06 02:41 PM	#29
No doubt about it. That is their goal, too.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:53 AM	#102
Actually, the question posted is not complex.	Clarkie1	Jul-18-06 02:32 PM	#14
While I generally agree with you; there are no basic simple truths	bryant69	Jul-18-06 02:33 PM	#
the question in the poll is not the question in the subject line	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 02:33 PM	#18
What gives you faith in their moderation?	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:35 PM	#21
they are politically astute	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 02:38 PM	#24
What on earth makes you think they're politically astute?	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:57 PM	#39
"bleeding heart nutjobs" -??	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 03:50 PM	#48
I'll define "bleeding heart nutjobs."	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 04:01 PM	#51
I never stated common cause with EITHER side in this conflict	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 04:07 PM	#53
What do you think Hezbolla wants?	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 04:10 PM	#55
hezbollah wants the same thing Likud wants--	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 04:11 PM	#56
and only war guarantees power	burythehatchet	Jul-18-06 04:18 PM	#62
bullshit.	cali	Jul-18-06 05:18 PM	#71
And Likud is hardly coy about theirs. Hezbollah aren't nice guys	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 06:31 PM	#77
Let's not forget that Likud wants to wipe Palestine off the map.	Leopolds Ghost	Jul-18-06 08:12 PM	#87
Ahh - revisionst history masquerading as fact again.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:54 AM	#103
who is "we"	leftofthedial	Jul-19-06 01:51 AM	#112
Thank you for telling it like it is. It sickens me that so many	coalition_unwilling	Jul-18-06 04:12 PM	#57
Yeah, they're so	cali	Jul-18-06 05:13 PM	#70
by comparison to Likud's Israel	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 06:43 PM	#79
Because they know that if they nuke Israel, they won't be able to...	JVS	Jul-18-06 04:46 PM	#67
Sounds like the same rationale Bush used to invade iraq	Mandate My Ass	Jul-18-06 02:35 PM	#22
Exactly	Bretttido	Jul-18-06 02:37 PM	#23
Its a push poll	martymar64	Jul-19-06 05:41 PM	#147
Nothing "complex" about it:	T Town Jake	Jul-18-06 02:33 PM	#
and you know this how?	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 03:58 PM	#49
Ah, change the subject. Neato "debate" tactic...	T Town Jake	Jul-18-06 04:12 PM	#58
Mr. Mature, based on what neato evidence	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 04:58 PM	#68
Oh, I dunno -	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:59 AM	#105
Israel uses their military to attack Palestinian communities	leftofthedial	Jul-19-06 11:57 AM	#115
Israel already has nukes. It's a proven fact. They have already shown	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:57 AM	#104
If Hezbollah were a nation with nukes and Israel was a small	Dhalgren	Jul-18-06 02:32 PM	#15
Indeed. Because any Jews not killed would have long since fled.	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:34 PM	#19
The "aims" of a nation and the "aims" of a small militia are not the	Dhalgren	Jul-18-06 02:39 PM	#26
Hexbolla is far from a "small militia"	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:46 PM	#32
We may not be "talking" it, but we aren't far from it...	Dhalgren	Jul-18-06 02:49 PM	#33
We're light years from it.	cigsandcoffee	Jul-18-06 02:56 PM	#38
The only people kidding themselves here, is the "Israelis firsters"	Dhalgren	Jul-18-06 02:59 PM	#41
compared to Israel, Hezbollah is small	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 05:02 PM	#69
That wasn't a choice though.	MGD	Jul-18-06 02:38 PM	#25
by "all things remaining equal," do you mean remaining as they are	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 06:46 PM	#80
I mean if everything else remained unchanged	MGD	Jul-18-06 07:44 PM	#82
We disagree.	leftofthedial	Jul-18-06 08:12 PM	#86
They are committed to destroying Israel	MGD	Jul-18-06 11:23 PM	#88
It would take multiple nukes to "solve" the Jewish problem	leftofthedial	Jul-19-06 01:12 AM	#110
Yes. They are. Stupid. Very Stupid.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 01:00 AM	#106
evidence?	leftofthedial	Jul-19-06 01:14 AM	#111
But they don't and never will have nukes.	martymar64	Jul-19-06 05:49 PM	#148
I don't know Hezbollah	whosinpower	Jul-18-06 02:33 PM	#16
reality is not black & white	maxsolomon	Jul-18-06 02:33 PM	#17
unintentionally, one of the funnier remarks	cali	Jul-18-06 02:39 PM	#27
yeah, its a crack up	maxsolomon	Jul-18-06 03:12 PM	#47
But but but... what about the Axis of EVIL???	Bretttido	Jul-18-06 02:39 PM	#28
it's not a question of "morality" but of "realpolitik"	tocqueville	Jul-18-06 02:46 PM	#31
Maybe it should be asked	azurnoir	Jul-18-06 02:49 PM	#34
The question doesn't make sense	bloom	Jul-18-06 03:00 PM	#42
hEZBOLLAH IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION	PHXModerate	Jul-18-06 03:00 PM	#43
No. n/t	Laotra	Jul-18-06 04:15 PM	#59
Israel has never made a serious effort to live in peace.	ThomCat	Jul-18-06 06:28 PM	#76
I can't believe you two.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 01:02 AM	#108
We know history.	ThomCat	Jul-19-06 12:34 PM	#117
A Just War doesn't justify ANY means	Libertino	Jul-18-06 03:06 PM	#46
"Just war"	Laotra	Jul-18-06 04:16 PM	#60
Correction: Hezbollah is an ORGANIZATION, part of which holds political	ShortnFiery	Jul-18-06 05:25 PM	#72
What is this, crappy poll day on DU?	burythehatchet	Jul-18-06 04:00 PM	#50
Moral equivalence	Laotra	Jul-18-06 04:06 PM	#52
I belive the Israel will be the first to drop a nuclear weapon.	xultar	Jul-18-06 04:07 PM	#54
Only in the face of annihilation IMO.	MGD	Jul-18-06 11:26 PM	#89
Why? They already have it, and have yet to use it.	TankLV	Jul-19-06 01:05 AM	#109
How about Hezbollah and the Continental Regulars?	Bornaginhooligan	Jul-18-06 04:45 PM	#66
snarf	Lilith Velkor	Jul-18-06 07:45 PM	#83
It's impossible to know for sure	fujiyama	Jul-18-06 07:40 PM	#81
Oh geez, another talking point	mmonk	Jul-18-06 11:28 PM	#90
This is the stupidest thing I've seen since Bush groped the Chancellor.	rug	Jul-18-06 11:35 PM	#92
What a bullshit poll.	Zhade	Jul-18-06 11:49 PM	#96
True	mmonk	Jul-19-06 12:29 AM	#98
Deleted message	Name removed	Jul-18-06 11:57 PM	#97
I can't believe anybody would believe that first one!	TankLV	Jul-19-06 12:48 AM	#99
Would the survivors use their sticks & stones against the other survivors?	Dr Fate	Jul-19-06 01:01 AM	#107
33%. Incredible, absolutely incredible.	Clarkie1	Jul-19-06 02:26 AM	#113
Hezbolla. Moral. Restraint	Freedom_Aflaim	Jul-19-06 03:06 AM	#114
It wouldn't be "Moral Restraint". It would be an understanding...	norml	Jul-19-06 01:19 PM	#123
that is a silly poll.	oc2002	Jul-19-06 12:32 PM	#116
guess what?	leftofthedial	Jul-19-06 12:36 PM	#118
What does that have to do with the OP? nt	Clarkie1	Jul-19-06 01:44 PM	#124
it has to do with our collective inability	leftofthedial	Jul-20-06 10:38 AM	#153
Hezbollah exists only to destroy Israel. It's their mission statement.	El Fuego	Jul-19-06 12:43 PM	#120
There are PRODUCTIVE and LIFE-PROMOTING aspects to some segments	ShortnFiery	Jul-19-06 02:23 PM	#128
Their own words	El Fuego	Jul-19-06 02:41 PM	#129
Well here's a clue: Israel best WORK WITH them more because	ShortnFiery	Jul-19-06 02:46 PM	#131
It doesnt shock me	atomicdawg38	Jul-19-06 02:21 PM	#127
Israel has not vowed to wipe a whole people out	noonwitch	Jul-19-06 04:25 PM	#138
But that's their intent, whether they say explicitly or not	martymar64	Jul-19-06 05:55 PM	#149
#2	cracksquirrel	Jul-19-06 04:28 PM	#139
I don't know, but think this	MoseyWalker	Jul-19-06 04:34 PM	#140
I've got a survey construction book you can borrow.	izzybeans	Jul-19-06 05:14 PM	#144
Israel would cease to exist...	bridgit	Jul-19-06 05:16 PM	#145

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