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Mon Jul-17-06 05:13 PM
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| 99. not over 2 soldiers. before the soldiers, hezbollah was bombing (rocketing |
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Israel. as are the palestinians in Gaza.
israel didn't just up and decide to bomb for no reason, although some people think so and even liken Israel to the US. in Iraq!
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| -How is Israel any better than Hezbollah? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:07 AM |
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One method of murder is "legal" the other isn't. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-17-06 08:11 AM |
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might & U.S. backing make right |
otokogi |
Jul-17-06 08:12 AM |
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Looks that way |
malaise |
Jul-17-06 08:19 AM |
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THANK YOU! |
Puglover |
Jul-18-06 09:37 AM |
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they are not any different |
leftchick |
Jul-17-06 08:12 AM |
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Some may or may not agree with me but.......... |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 08:13 AM |
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So would you agree that the other side has the same rights? |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 08:20 AM |
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My whole point is............... |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 08:45 AM |
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I am trying to keep an fair perspective of the conflict and not judge |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 09:07 AM |
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Excuse???? The surrounding countries......... |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 09:35 AM |
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OK...Hezbollah is not a country...It is composed of rebels, right? |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 10:40 AM |
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I brought Hezbollah into the mix because............ |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 10:59 AM |
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How can they be rebels |
eyl |
Jul-17-06 11:33 AM |
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You're right they are now in the government - that makes.............. |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 11:55 AM |
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Well, we have people sitting in the American government who hold |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 12:45 PM |
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Are they sitting in the government |
eyl |
Jul-18-06 03:21 AM |
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If a person has DUAL CITIZENSHIP he is at ALL TIMES |
itzamirakul |
Jul-18-06 06:31 AM |
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There's a difference between |
eyl |
Jul-18-06 08:44 AM |
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An ambassador has been designated to represent his country |
itzamirakul |
Jul-18-06 09:22 AM |
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Possibly true |
eyl |
Jul-19-06 04:41 AM |
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why? because Hezbollah was rocketing ISrael, which is why this whole thing |
robinlynne |
Jul-17-06 05:11 PM |
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My point with the other poster was that at times he/she referred to |
itzamirakul |
Jul-18-06 06:35 AM |
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Even when the one country has 100-200 nuclear weapons? |
Tesha |
Jul-17-06 10:37 AM |
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Well, the question becomes............ |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 11:01 AM |
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Name removed |
Jul-17-06 11:22 AM |
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What I think is odd is the rage over two soldiers vs. civilian deaths... |
kittenpants |
Jul-17-06 08:23 AM |
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You're right, it is "a more hawkish mindset"..................... |
Minnesota Libra |
Jul-17-06 09:01 AM |
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not over 2 soldiers. before the soldiers, hezbollah was bombing (rocketing |
robinlynne |
Jul-17-06 05:13 PM |
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Loved ones being kidnapped? |
NoMoreMyths |
Jul-17-06 08:29 AM |
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So that must make it alright. Please. |
winter999 |
Jul-17-06 09:43 AM |
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Did I say that? |
NoMoreMyths |
Jul-17-06 10:07 AM |
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No, they're not... |
misanthrope |
Jul-17-06 10:26 AM |
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How many of my loved ones would you be willing ... |
Everybody |
Jul-17-06 01:09 PM |
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It's what's more gently termed, collective punishment |
Kagemusha |
Jul-17-06 08:14 AM |
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Uh, because they have more money? Because they have uniforms? |
Warpy |
Jul-17-06 08:17 AM |
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"Eye for an eye" is supposed to be a maximum, not a suggestion |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:26 AM |
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That's not how it's being interpreted |
Warpy |
Jul-17-06 08:54 AM |
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"Eye for an eye" |
bloom |
Jul-17-06 09:47 AM |
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They're not |
Ravenseye |
Jul-17-06 08:18 AM |
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I guess the next question then would be... |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:31 AM |
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Well, I don't think it does |
Ravenseye |
Jul-17-06 08:58 AM |
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It was Israel |
bloom |
Jul-17-06 09:54 AM |
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I think that's a good way to look at it |
Ravenseye |
Jul-17-06 10:35 AM |
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How is the US |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:19 AM |
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Please elaborate |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:33 AM |
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You didn't ask what the |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:41 AM |
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Again: how is your point relevant? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:51 AM |
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Are you really having this |
cali |
Jul-17-06 10:16 AM |
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how is Israel any better than Hezbollah? |
Alameda |
Jul-17-06 01:35 PM |
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have you read up on the history of russia and chechnya? |
xchrom |
Jul-17-06 08:38 AM |
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They aren't n/t |
LostinVA |
Jul-17-06 08:19 AM |
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There is no difference. |
Jim__ |
Jul-17-06 08:19 AM |
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I would say this: |
Che_Nuevara |
Jul-17-06 08:20 AM |
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One is a state backed by the strongest state |
NoMoreMyths |
Jul-17-06 08:21 AM |
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The World's Only Superpower. |
Benhurst |
Jul-17-06 09:05 AM |
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How are YOU any better? |
IanDB1 |
Jul-17-06 08:23 AM |
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Ignored for asking a question? |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:40 AM |
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O my God. |
midnight |
Jul-17-06 08:26 AM |
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You're not getting |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:26 AM |
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No doubt...... |
CrownPrinceBandar |
Jul-17-06 08:35 AM |
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Ain't that the truth |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:44 AM |
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ah, the voice of the 'fair-n-balanced' |
otokogi |
Jul-17-06 08:48 AM |
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It seems to me that the "banalities and sentimentalities" of which |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 11:45 AM |
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Over the top without a doubt. How about... |
afrosia |
Jul-17-06 08:30 AM |
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Tell me |
eyl |
Jul-17-06 08:56 AM |
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One more thing: |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:31 AM |
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Would it have been any different |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 08:38 AM |
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Yes. |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:52 AM |
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And did you ask yourself who put that child in harms way? |
winter999 |
Jul-17-06 09:49 AM |
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So staying in ones own home in the face of an unannounced attack |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-17-06 10:07 AM |
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Also, winter999, reports are coming out that the Israelis are indeed |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 12:04 PM |
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facts on the ground |
otokogi |
Jul-17-06 08:46 AM |
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You have |
cali |
Jul-18-06 05:46 AM |
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something about the faces of reality- cuts right through to the marrow- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-17-06 08:59 AM |
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I understand and appreciate your sincerity |
cali |
Jul-17-06 10:24 AM |
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They aren't any better |
Juniperx |
Jul-17-06 08:39 AM |
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Spearhead lyrics apply |
BoneDaddy |
Jul-17-06 08:39 AM |
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poor baby n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-17-06 08:42 AM |
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I cry and beseech our spiritual Father |
emald |
Jul-17-06 08:47 AM |
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those tired old phrases..." right to defend herself"... "you have |
Bluerthanblue |
Jul-17-06 08:48 AM |
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I doubt your premise and there is a point by von Clausewitz |
Scribe |
Jul-17-06 08:51 AM |
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states use terror on a far more terrible scale |
otokogi |
Jul-17-06 08:52 AM |
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It is not a one dimensional issue. If you see it as that simple then |
Scribe |
Jul-17-06 10:06 AM |
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Now this begins to sound like one of those "round and round and nobody |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 01:25 PM |
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Well then you've missed a critical factor. Hezbollah won 23 seats |
Scribe |
Jul-17-06 04:48 PM |
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Yes, I see that you are right and I was wrong... |
itzamirakul |
Jul-18-06 06:40 AM |
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How is Israel any better than Hezbollah? |
Alameda |
Jul-17-06 11:44 PM |
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Better or worse? I can't make that kind of judgement. Never could. |
Scribe |
Jul-18-06 02:28 PM |
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Better or worse? |
Alameda |
Jul-19-06 02:18 PM |
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quoting von Clausewitz in |
cali |
Jul-17-06 08:55 AM |
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They are no different... |
Xenotime |
Jul-17-06 08:53 AM |
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They are not any better. |
LWolf |
Jul-17-06 08:56 AM |
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Israel is not intentionally targeting civilian, Hezbollah and Hamas are |
Solo_in_MD |
Jul-17-06 09:24 AM |
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I agree - I like the analogy of 2 houses |
KurtNYC |
Jul-17-06 09:55 AM |
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I concur. |
akushuki |
Jul-17-06 10:38 AM |
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Ironic, though, that the presumed initiator was an attack against soldiers |
lostnfound |
Jul-17-06 11:07 AM |
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That's not completely accurate |
eyl |
Jul-17-06 11:34 AM |
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I'm sorry for the inaccuracy; thanks for correcting it. |
lostnfound |
Jul-17-06 12:50 PM |
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While I see your point, I don't entirely buy it. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jul-18-06 04:39 AM |
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Right, Israel is accidentally killing civilians, lots of 'm |
rman |
Jul-18-06 04:46 AM |
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One cannot divorce motives from methods when discussing |
igil |
Jul-17-06 09:58 AM |
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Well put (n/t) |
Che_Nuevara |
Jul-17-06 10:23 AM |
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Amen (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jul-17-06 04:50 PM |
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Umm, Israel is better because the US says so? |
Pachamama |
Jul-17-06 10:39 AM |
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israel is doing same as we would |
virtualjimbo |
Jul-17-06 11:05 AM |
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Gee I Think I Heard Rush Say That |
Binka |
Jul-19-06 05:51 AM |
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Motive - profit and might makes right |
ArmchairMeme |
Jul-17-06 11:07 AM |
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you perfectly defined how we are to discuss to totally have to agree |
seabeyond |
Jul-17-06 11:16 AM |
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I often wonder the same thing |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jul-17-06 12:06 PM |
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manslaughter versus 1st degree murder |
dmordue |
Jul-17-06 12:43 PM |
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Who makes that decision? And who gives them the authority to |
itzamirakul |
Jul-17-06 01:47 PM |
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Well, first you'll have to link all those articles about Israelis blowing |
WinkyDink |
Jul-17-06 01:38 PM |
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War is the same no matter whose face you put on it. Poor kid. |
lonestarnot |
Jul-17-06 04:54 PM |
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I agree. I agree with Israel's motivations, but I do NOT agree with what I |
robinlynne |
Jul-17-06 05:07 PM |
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Well, I wouldnt say "Israel", its the IDF doing the killing, specifically. |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-17-06 05:17 PM |
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Oh geeze that is so damn sad |
PatriotMom |
Jul-17-06 11:52 PM |
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A War Crime |
DubyaSux |
Jul-17-06 11:57 PM |
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Oh, I don't know. Maybe these kids could answer that question. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-18-06 12:12 AM |
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well, israel has challah bread... |
NuttyFluffers |
Jul-18-06 01:10 AM |
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The answer is very simple! |
Clarkie1 |
Jul-18-06 01:12 AM |
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The question is methods, not rationale |
TechBear_Seattle |
Jul-18-06 08:02 AM |
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Tell ya how.... Hezbollah is antithetical to every liberal ideal. |
Full Metal |
Jul-19-06 04:52 AM |
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I believe... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jul-19-06 05:13 AM |
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Have you ever hear of? |
Full Metal |
Jul-19-06 05:36 AM |
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Have you ever heard of... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jul-19-06 07:33 AM |
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what are these man-ners that you speak of? |
Full Metal |
Jul-19-06 12:43 PM |
#125 |
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You have posed a question based on a premise which is false. |
Clarkie1 |
Jul-19-06 03:45 PM |
#127 |
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