| 239. In your city and in mine, today, calling the cops in for anything |
|
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 11:35 PM by sfexpat2000
but a life threatening situation will make it worse. This is in part a product of the ecomony. There are no funds for investigation. And few for warrant serving. What cops can do is make their best call, diffuse a situation if possible. If the wrong person winds up in jail for 72 hours while the DA's office throws it out, well, maybe no one gets hurt. Much. On the other hand, I know there is a whole office in our SF City Hall that processes complaints from wrongful arrests. On a third hand, wtf are these guys supposed to do? They get to handle everything the rest of the culture bails on. So, these departments attract the best of us AND the worst of us. That's where we are, 'far as I can see.  On edit: If the wrong person winds up dead, well, the department has lawyers and PR people. |
| -a schizophrenic with a knife... |
annabanana |
Dec-28-05 02:25 PM |
#0 |
 -
very disturbing to me too...n/t |
Oceansaway |
Dec-28-05 02:26 PM |
#1 |
  -
Have you ever seen 20 policemen surround a white man on TV? |
linazelle |
Dec-28-05 10:25 PM |
#185 |
| -
Every night on Cops. Next question. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-29-05 09:25 AM |
#219 |
| -
Never saw that on cops. Ever. nt |
linazelle |
Dec-29-05 11:03 AM |
#230 |
| -
I saw it once and he was hispanic but they didnt kill him |
951-Riverside |
Dec-30-05 12:30 AM |
#247 |
| -
Stray bullets kill people |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-28-05 02:28 PM |
#2 |
| -
No one should be shot |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 02:33 PM |
#5 |
| -
If the cop only has a gun and no taser.... |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-28-05 02:37 PM |
#9 |
| -
Fine. Whatever |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 02:41 PM |
#21 |
| -
I think it would be really hard to hit a limb |
AngryAmish |
Dec-28-05 02:44 PM |
#26 |
| -
Good cops and good hunters |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:06 PM |
#48 |
| -
I suspect I'm neither |
AngryAmish |
Dec-28-05 03:20 PM |
#65 |
| -
It's good to have a healthy respect for firearms |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:36 PM |
#74 |
| -
Unlike the movies, bad guys dont fall down when shot in the leg |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-28-05 02:52 PM |
#39 |
| -
If he is close enough to stab you |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 02:58 PM |
#43 |
| -
There is a difference between.... |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-28-05 03:07 PM |
#50 |
| -
Well, then, finally, there is the rub |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:11 PM |
#56 |
| -
Good luck with that. |
rpgamerd00d |
Dec-28-05 03:12 PM |
#59 |
| -
Don't put words in my mouth |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:18 PM |
#64 |
| -
Have you tried you shooting skill on a simulated moving arm on... |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 04:38 PM |
#100 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-28-05 06:00 PM |
#132 |
| -
Grew up on a ranch with guns & hunting... |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 06:18 PM |
#138 |
| -
You are right |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 06:40 PM |
#147 |
| -
Actually, they didn't know the deal. |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 08:56 PM |
#178 |
| -
An arm wont stop a bullet |
Freedom_Aflaim |
Dec-28-05 11:54 PM |
#200 |
| -
Are you a LEO? |
Pavulon |
Dec-28-05 06:54 PM |
#154 |
| -
Because this was REAL LIFE, not a fucking movie or TV show |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:59 PM |
# |
| -
Well, Mr. High and Mighty |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:04 PM |
#47 |
| -
I am sick to death of the ignorant ass question |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:06 PM |
#49 |
| -
Brilliant |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:15 PM |
#60 |
| -
I've been firing weapons since the age of ten |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:18 PM |
#62 |
| -
Well I have 40+ years experience |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:27 PM |
#68 |
| -
Yeah, you'd risk killing a civilian because you're arrogant about your |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:28 PM |
#69 |
| -
There is no arrogance in marksmanship |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:30 PM |
#72 |
| -
There you go again |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:35 PM |
#73 |
| -
I agree with pulling a gun |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:39 PM |
#77 |
| -
Absolutely they CAN do it |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:51 PM |
#85 |
| -
At that range |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:57 PM |
#88 |
| -
I'm curious |
onenote |
Dec-28-05 04:59 PM |
#104 |
| -
Yes, I did |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 05:57 PM |
#131 |
| -
Not with issue ammunition... |
benEzra |
Dec-29-05 09:32 AM |
#220 |
| -
In reading this exchange I think your the one who sounds like |
WI_DEM |
Dec-28-05 05:44 PM |
#124 |
| -
but it's ok with you that he calls me and everyone else |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 06:03 PM |
#134 |
| -
You Just Made His Point |
REP |
Dec-29-05 03:36 AM |
#214 |
| -
You know, Walt. life is dangerous. When you have |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 04:16 PM |
#89 |
| -
The man was not murdered. If anything, he completed suicide |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 04:19 PM |
#91 |
| -
Bull. You have to be in your right mind to achieve a goal. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:13 PM |
#107 |
| -
Well, not being in his right mind makes him a lot more |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:49 PM |
#242 |
| -
Oh, for pete's sake. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-30-05 12:43 AM |
#248 |
| -
everyone mentions tasers |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 05:38 PM |
#120 |
| -
You hit on another good point that supports my argument |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 06:02 PM |
#133 |
| -
$1,200.00 for tasers. How much for a life? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:17 PM |
#137 |
| -
I agree it's just that |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 06:40 PM |
#145 |
| -
But we have Brazilions for the "defense" budget. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:44 PM |
#149 |
| -
just show what the priorities are. |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 06:46 PM |
#150 |
| -
I believe you. It was not a priority. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:49 PM |
#152 |
| -
As equipment and policy goes, the cops didn't have a choice this time, |
Ladyhawk |
Dec-28-05 08:56 PM |
#177 |
| -
Our laws allow us to kill someone in self-defense. |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:55 PM |
#246 |
| -
The intent is to stop, not kill. |
KyuzoGator |
Dec-29-05 02:25 AM |
#212 |
| -
In a perfect world... |
britpopper |
Dec-28-05 11:12 PM |
#188 |
| -
Thanks for doing what you do. |
KyuzoGator |
Dec-29-05 11:51 PM |
#244 |
| -
I learned in another gun thread that stray bullets don't kill people |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-28-05 11:04 PM |
#186 |
| -
Scary as hell, isn't it? |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 02:31 PM |
#3 |
| -
Interesting response |
BOSSHOG |
Dec-28-05 03:25 PM |
#66 |
| -
No one is picking on the cops |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 03:28 PM |
#70 |
| -
His mental state had nothing to do with |
BOSSHOG |
Dec-28-05 03:42 PM |
#80 |
| -
You need to watch the tape |
Juniperx |
Dec-28-05 04:44 PM |
#101 |
| -
And the tape shows a very large man, acting erratically, armed |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:51 PM |
#243 |
| -
I don't understand why 15 cops had no choice but to shoot him |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 02:33 PM |
#4 |
| -
because it wasn't 15 cops, it was 3 cops |
pitohui |
Dec-28-05 02:38 PM |
#11 |
| -
did you see the tape? |
annabanana |
Dec-28-05 02:40 PM |
#17 |
| -
Read the next paragraph: |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 02:41 PM |
#20 |
| -
also .. when did it become de rigeur for the police to scream |
annabanana |
Dec-28-05 02:39 PM |
#14 |
| -
I didn't realize that |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 02:41 PM |
#22 |
| -
it is part of the procedure all right...i think it's called |
sojourner |
Dec-29-05 11:03 AM |
#231 |
| -
Twenty feet away, a quarter inch deep, and a lunge |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:35 PM |
#6 |
| -
"within the bounds of the law". Impressive defense. |
Bonobo |
Dec-28-05 02:36 PM |
#7 |
| -
I'm sorry, but the vast majority of cops do not run around wanting to |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:38 PM |
#10 |
| -
Please don't put words in my mouth. Never said it. Never thought it. |
Bonobo |
Dec-28-05 02:40 PM |
#18 |
| -
What I posted indicates why it is a perfect defense. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:45 PM |
#29 |
| -
Yeah, but |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 11:18 PM |
#190 |
| -
The last resort |
H2O Man |
Dec-28-05 02:37 PM |
#8 |
| -
You are WRONG, H2O Man, the last resort weas taken LAST |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:43 PM |
#25 |
| -
Don't they get paid to take exactly that sort of risk? |
kgfnally |
Dec-28-05 02:56 PM |
#41 |
| -
While I lack your obvious expertise, |
H2O Man |
Dec-28-05 02:59 PM |
#44 |
| -
That's a helpful perspective. Is it odd that some people seem to think |
Czolgosz |
Dec-28-05 05:21 PM |
#112 |
| -
Bullshit |
Karmakaze |
Dec-28-05 03:18 PM |
#63 |
| -
The police were called to the scene |
BOSSHOG |
Dec-28-05 02:38 PM |
#12 |
| -
And if I have to deal with the police, I follow their direct orders |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:45 PM |
#27 |
| -
Police operate with one way communications |
BOSSHOG |
Dec-28-05 02:49 PM |
#34 |
| -
Yeah, but you aint crazy |
Warpy |
Dec-28-05 02:52 PM |
#40 |
| -
It'd never work |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:57 PM |
#42 |
| -
Oh...I thought you were talking about Bushie for a second... |
BushOut06 |
Dec-28-05 02:39 PM |
#13 |
| -
I wondered myself about the tasers. Are they only used on |
Arkansas Granny |
Dec-28-05 02:39 PM |
#15 |
| -
Aren't tasers only good for short-range defense? |
BushOut06 |
Dec-28-05 02:42 PM |
#23 |
| -
I've seen tasers that fire their wires... |
annabanana |
Dec-28-05 02:43 PM |
#24 |
| -
Still, that's 10 feet too short |
BushOut06 |
Dec-28-05 02:47 PM |
#32 |
| -
They sprayed him and it didn't do anything to him. NT |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 05:02 PM |
#105 |
| -
The New Orleans beat cops are not armed with tasers |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:46 PM |
#31 |
| -
In this high-tech world you'd think that there would be more "non-lethal" |
maveric |
Dec-28-05 02:40 PM |
#16 |
| -
Sorry, but a knife is a LETHAL weapon |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:47 PM |
#33 |
| -
But cops are a bit safer at a distance than say when a gun is involved. |
maveric |
Dec-28-05 03:08 PM |
#52 |
| -
I find it disturbing also, but... |
pointblank |
Dec-28-05 02:41 PM |
#19 |
| -
They shoot him in the leg and he drops, which means his knife |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 02:45 PM |
#30 |
| -
This was REAL LIFE, not a fucking movie or TV show |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:49 PM |
#35 |
| -
exactly |
pointblank |
Dec-28-05 02:51 PM |
#38 |
| -
Besides - the torso is a much bigger target |
BushOut06 |
Dec-28-05 03:09 PM |
#53 |
| -
and much less likely the shot would completely penetrate the target |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:29 PM |
#71 |
| -
Gee that's comforting |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 03:12 PM |
#58 |
| -
I agree in principle |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 05:53 PM |
#130 |
| -
Your ideas would not work in the real world. |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 05:12 PM |
#106 |
| -
I know you mean well, fellow Kansan... |
PaganPreacher |
Dec-29-05 01:04 AM |
#207 |
| -
"Shooting in the leg is dangerous because the person could be on drugs" |
Bonobo |
Dec-28-05 02:49 PM |
#36 |
| -
What about a beanbag round from a shotgun? |
Wcross |
Dec-28-05 02:45 PM |
#28 |
| -
That's be nice, if they were armed with beanbag firing shotguns. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 02:50 PM |
#37 |
| -
Yes, it would have been. |
Wcross |
Dec-28-05 03:00 PM |
#45 |
| -
The entire incident took three minutes, so no. |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:02 PM |
#46 |
| -
nets |
pop goes the weasel |
Dec-28-05 03:08 PM |
#51 |
| -
To be quite frank, this could be the rightwing plan |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 03:11 PM |
#57 |
| -
The Consensus Project was set up by two cops who |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 03:44 PM |
#82 |
| -
Had he been a schizophrenic white woman with a knife... |
951-Riverside |
Dec-28-05 03:09 PM |
#54 |
| -
I need some more data |
BOSSHOG |
Dec-28-05 03:15 PM |
#61 |
| -
let me try again, I guess I didnt make myself clear enough... |
951-Riverside |
Dec-28-05 03:26 PM |
#67 |
| -
I find it very disturbing |
me b zola |
Dec-28-05 03:10 PM |
#55 |
| -
Nationwide policy: police shoot at the legs |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 03:36 PM |
#75 |
| -
If I've managed to secure a man that is twice my weight and |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 03:47 PM |
#83 |
| -
Did he have a knife? That does make a difference. NT |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 05:17 PM |
#109 |
| -
Really? You think a 300 lb person in a paranoid psychotic |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:24 PM |
#113 |
| -
Yes, any person with a knife is more dangerous than without. |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 06:12 PM |
#136 |
| -
No, any person with a knife is not necessarily more dangerous |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:22 PM |
#139 |
| -
you have a person who is mentally ill |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 07:02 PM |
#156 |
| -
Think it through. A mentally ill person cannot |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 07:10 PM |
#159 |
| -
hey I've been there |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 07:14 PM |
#160 |
| -
What are you not understanding that killing mentally ill people |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 07:24 PM |
#167 |
| -
no cop that I know |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 07:33 PM |
#168 |
| -
Between you not going home and offing a mentally ill person |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 12:24 AM |
#203 |
| -
I would oppose such a policy with every fiber of my being |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 04:21 PM |
#92 |
| -
How about coming behind him with a net... |
butterfly77 |
Dec-28-05 03:37 PM |
#76 |
| -
They had no net, pepper spray was tried and did not work |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 04:22 PM |
#94 |
| -
Improvise! |
butterfly77 |
Dec-28-05 04:30 PM |
#98 |
| -
How do we know it was a schizophrenic? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 03:41 PM |
#78 |
| -
In the early reports on TV |
annabanana |
Dec-28-05 05:46 PM |
#129 |
| -
Thank you. Oh, god, we have to stop this. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:23 PM |
#140 |
| -
Cops Aren't Always Bad. Cops Who Fire Their Weapon Don't Always Deserve |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Dec-28-05 03:41 PM |
#79 |
| -
Sickening |
malaise |
Dec-28-05 03:44 PM |
#81 |
| -
Was his doctor on the scene? |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 03:48 PM |
#84 |
| -
I have been, many times. It's not rocket science to calm |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 03:52 PM |
#86 |
| -
Oh cool |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 04:22 PM |
#93 |
| -
My husband was DX'd in the first year of our marriage. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:19 PM |
#111 |
| -
First off.. I asked for someone in the same situation as the cops |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 05:27 PM |
#114 |
| -
johnnie, I'm not a mental health expert. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:34 PM |
#117 |
| -
It's cool |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 05:38 PM |
#121 |
| -
Again, sorry. Link to your thread? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:41 PM |
#123 |
| -
Here is the link |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 05:44 PM |
#125 |
| -
Thank you! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:45 PM |
#127 |
| -
It's a good thing you didn't use a gun, |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 11:16 PM |
#189 |
| -
Yep. Exactly. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 12:49 AM |
#205 |
| -
I have been in that situation |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 06:59 PM |
#155 |
| -
Would you have shot him in the leg |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 07:15 PM |
#162 |
| -
If I had to shoot |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 07:18 PM |
#164 |
| -
See, that's where all your rationalizations |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 07:37 PM |
#169 |
| -
you lost me there |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 07:59 PM |
#172 |
| -
I wasn't clear enough |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 08:14 PM |
#174 |
| -
YES. |
benEzra |
Dec-29-05 09:21 AM |
#218 |
| -
and that's exactly why mandatory leg shots |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 08:03 PM |
#173 |
| -
the only problem with that is |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 08:30 PM |
#175 |
| -
In a high-stress situation |
Tactical Progressive |
Dec-28-05 09:15 PM |
#182 |
| -
Thanks |
johnnie |
Dec-28-05 07:18 PM |
#165 |
| -
British police handle this all the time without guns and without death |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-28-05 03:57 PM |
#87 |
| -
Exactly. And the way thousands of families do every day in |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 04:18 PM |
#90 |
| -
The Brits also have state sponsored psychiatric care |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 04:24 PM |
#96 |
| -
An amazing non sequitur, even for you, Walt |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-28-05 04:53 PM |
#103 |
| -
Sweet raisin Danish! |
Walt Starr |
Dec-28-05 07:16 PM |
#163 |
| -
Correction: used to |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-29-05 12:01 AM |
#202 |
| -
gd it!! This is the same crap that happened when the womans husband died |
sproutster |
Dec-28-05 04:24 PM |
#95 |
| -
I'm a psych social worker and think they totally screwed up. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Dec-28-05 04:26 PM |
#97 |
| -
so thenext time |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 05:30 PM |
#116 |
| -
I'm a I'm a female who weighs about 130 lbs and have grabbed a knife |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Dec-28-05 06:04 PM |
#135 |
| -
you grab a knfe the risk of injury |
crankybubba |
Dec-28-05 06:53 PM |
#153 |
| -
If I didn't grab it and defuse the situation-he may have stabbed my friend |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Dec-28-05 07:07 PM |
#158 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-28-05 11:22 PM |
#191 |
| -
The reason it worked for you is he didn't want to kill YOU... |
benEzra |
Dec-29-05 09:34 AM |
#221 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-29-05 09:46 AM |
#225 |
| -
LOL (n/t) |
benEzra |
Dec-29-05 10:05 AM |
#228 |
| -
Do you still have all your fingers? |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:48 PM |
#241 |
| -
They had to kill him, he pulled out a knife and was flapping |
Rex |
Dec-28-05 04:34 PM |
#99 |
| -
The Georgia police have a new training program to help cops deal with MI |
Wordie |
Dec-28-05 04:48 PM |
#102 |
| -
16 cops with guns drawn vs. 1 mentally ill guy with a knife... |
ultraist |
Dec-28-05 05:14 PM |
#108 |
| -
Among the world's industrialized nations this would happen only in America |
Czolgosz |
Dec-28-05 05:18 PM |
#110 |
| -
It's murder. Period. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:28 PM |
#115 |
| -
It's not a coincidence that the same people who would serve as apologists |
Czolgosz |
Dec-28-05 05:34 PM |
#118 |
| -
They want to trust the powers that be, even in the face of |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:37 PM |
#119 |
| -
Three points. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 05:40 PM |
#122 |
| -
Geezus, I don't "hate cops". Our community work would be |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 05:44 PM |
#126 |
| -
Good for them |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 05:46 PM |
#128 |
| -
And I think you're right in your analysis. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 03:15 AM |
#213 |
| -
Thanks, I need help with this. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-29-05 09:40 AM |
#223 |
| -
In your city and in mine, today, calling the cops in for anything |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 11:33 PM |
#239 |
| -
What is the law but a set of rules? |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 06:23 PM |
#141 |
| -
What does that have to do with caring for the mental ill |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:27 PM |
#142 |
| -
Responding to his 3rd point. |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 09:06 PM |
#179 |
| -
No, I want a police force without guns, period. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 06:29 PM |
#143 |
| -
oh please |
pitohui |
Dec-28-05 06:39 PM |
#144 |
| -
So, a few cops would be hurt or killed. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 06:43 PM |
#148 |
| -
I've calmed down a very upset 300 lb person without weapons. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-28-05 06:46 PM |
#151 |
| -
P.S. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 07:14 PM |
#161 |
| -
The Crips & the Bloods would eat your cops for lunch. NT |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 09:07 PM |
#180 |
| -
Good, would they save me a bite? |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-29-05 09:54 AM |
#227 |
| -
I fucken' hate them when they do this...n/t |
Nimrod2005 |
Dec-28-05 06:40 PM |
#146 |
| -
Most posters here do not want the Taser used. |
liberalnurse |
Dec-28-05 07:03 PM |
#157 |
| -
you mean when one bullet to the little toe would have sufficed... |
bridgit |
Dec-28-05 07:20 PM |
#166 |
| -
Do you really believe yourself? |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 09:14 PM |
#181 |
| -
what's your point? |
bridgit |
Dec-28-05 09:33 PM |
#183 |
| -
What you have said is so different from reality that I wonder if |
Silverhair |
Dec-28-05 10:19 PM |
#184 |
| -
my 1st husband was a CHP, he was trained quite specifically... |
bridgit |
Dec-29-05 12:42 AM |
#204 |
| -
No kneecaping either. |
Silverhair |
Dec-29-05 10:57 AM |
#229 |
| -
so it's one (1) shot to center mass? that's acceptable? cause a dozen... |
bridgit |
Dec-29-05 02:34 PM |
#235 |
| -
San Diego PD has shot people holding toothbrushes, paint brushes,... |
maveric |
Dec-28-05 07:50 PM |
#170 |
| -
Thanks for the link. I will follow up. You know what has worked |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 01:25 AM |
#208 |
| -
Welcome to USA |
wadestock |
Dec-28-05 07:53 PM |
#171 |
| -
This is the second high profile case involving cops vs a mentally ill |
proud2Blib |
Dec-28-05 08:33 PM |
#176 |
| -
Been down this road before... |
britpopper |
Dec-28-05 11:10 PM |
#187 |
| -
I don't buy it |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 11:24 PM |
#192 |
| -
Yep...I make a million..woo-hoo!!! |
britpopper |
Dec-28-05 11:34 PM |
#193 |
| -
I bet you make more than a starting teacher in your district. |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 11:37 PM |
#194 |
| -
My wife is a starting teacher in my area... |
britpopper |
Dec-28-05 11:39 PM |
#195 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-28-05 11:40 PM |
#196 |
| -
That's cool... |
britpopper |
Dec-28-05 11:45 PM |
#197 |
| -
Good riddance, then |
Jed Dilligan |
Dec-28-05 11:49 PM |
#199 |
| -
After Long Beach got into all kinds of trouble |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 01:03 AM |
#206 |
| -
There have been several documented cases of LAPD |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Dec-29-05 09:37 AM |
#222 |
| -
Hmmm... |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-29-05 01:22 PM |
#233 |
| -
Shooting at small objects makes one tend to miss |
Freedom_Aflaim |
Dec-28-05 11:47 PM |
#198 |
| -
Expecting the impossible?? WTF?! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 05:02 AM |
#215 |
| -
I fully agree with treating mentally ill people |
Freedom_Aflaim |
Dec-29-05 05:48 PM |
#236 |
| -
No, it's not. That's just wrong. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 09:52 PM |
#237 |
| -
I agree that his death was pointless and tragic |
Freedom_Aflaim |
Dec-30-05 09:34 AM |
#250 |
| -
I found it very disturbing as well. There were 15 cops with 15 guns |
AgadorSparticus |
Dec-28-05 11:54 PM |
#201 |
| -
Overall, our national report card on mental health issues |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-29-05 01:33 AM |
#210 |
| -
Bingo. Black men in America |
linazelle |
Dec-29-05 01:46 AM |
#211 |
| -
Good post |
Nutmegger |
Dec-29-05 01:30 AM |
#209 |
| -
I saw the video on MSM; |
greiner3 |
Dec-29-05 07:41 AM |
#216 |
| -
With many non lethal options .... |
NicRic |
Dec-29-05 08:00 AM |
#217 |
| -
Not sure what incident your talking about? Is there a link? |
mzmolly |
Dec-29-05 09:43 AM |
#224 |
| -
Knife is a lethal weapon. A lot of people are killed with knives. |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:46 PM |
#240 |
| -
A knife AT CLOSE RANGE, is a lethal weapon. |
mzmolly |
Dec-30-05 11:34 AM |
#251 |
| -
I saw a documentary about alternatives to deadly force....... |
nomaco-10 |
Dec-29-05 09:46 AM |
#226 |
| -
A lot of those ideas didn't pan out... |
benEzra |
Dec-29-05 01:08 PM |
#232 |
| -
I have a schizophrenic living across the street from me... |
bush_is_wacko |
Dec-29-05 01:43 PM |
#234 |
| -
Might not end well one day. |
lizzy |
Dec-29-05 11:52 PM |
#245 |
| -
They are allowed to run free because psychiatrist say they are |
bush_is_wacko |
Dec-30-05 12:39 PM |
#253 |
| -
It's standard police training. |
Lindacooks |
Dec-29-05 10:55 PM |
#238 |
| -
"Didn't anyone have a taser?" |
madeline_con |
Dec-30-05 12:45 AM |
#249 |
| -
oddly enough, SWAT has non-lethal weapons |
rman |
Dec-30-05 12:01 PM |
#252 |
Printer-friendly format
Email this thread to a friend
Bookmark this thread
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore