Reply #168: You are correct. I misspoke myself. Actually, af the time of the statement

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that LandShark repeatedly quotes, John Gideon was Not a board member of BBV. He was a member of the BBV Leadership Team and he identifies himself as such on the BBV website from which the quote is taken. Here Is what he said:
"Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 05:18 pm:

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Here I am again. No matter how much I try to stay away from here I keep getting drug in. It needs to be made crystal clear that ChoicePoint has not, does not now, and, they say, will never have anything to do with elections. They purchased DBT (DATABASE TECHNOLOGIES, INC,) after the 2000 election and it does not do election data bases any longer. The inclusion of ChoicePoint in this piece is incorrect.

DBT got a contract with the state of Florida and warned the state that the information they were putting together was not accurate because it included many names that did not belong on the list. The state told them that's what they wanted because they expected the counties to scrub the list. The counties didn't do that. That is NOT DBTs fault and is certainly not the fault of ChoicePoint.

Greg Palast, from whom you must have gotten much of this information, knows the facts but refuses to admit that his reporting was wrong. So he has just continued the lie."
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/17778.html?1141182287#POST17125

Further on, in that same Feb 06 conversation (in which Bev Harris and John Gideon have an exchange of views)John goes on to make it clear that there is no board of VTUSA and that Donna Curling is not a member of that non existent board. Here are those comments:
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Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:48 pm:

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I can see why Doug's a little 'edgy' about this subject.

http://www.lists.opn.org/pipermail/org.opn.lists.local_activists/2005-March/0018 31.html

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Records show Smith and Curling bought and sold 458,600 company shares in
eight biweekly transactions between Nov. 9 — after the company had
confirmed the breach — and Feb. 15 — the day the company publicly
disclosed the breach.

The buying and selling by the two men continued in recent days,
even as Smith has been working around the clock to keep major
shareholders from running away.

Smith's and Curling's trading activity, involving ChoicePoint stock,
was much less frequent by comparison in previous years, according to SEC
records and an analysis with Thomson Financial.

In 2003, Smith and Curling each made only one stock transaction, and in
2002, Smith made three transactions and Curling made one transaction,
according to Thomson Financial.

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I'll bet he wants that forgotten!

Pat A. Vesely ;-)


John Gideon
BBV Leadership Team
Username: Johngideon

Post Number: 214
Registered: 12-2004

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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:39 am:

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Bev disingenuously asks; "If you "discontinued all involvement with voting processes" why is the wife of Choicepoint President Douglas Curling on the board of directors of VoteTrustUSA and why is money from Choicepoint (through Curling to his wife) funding VoteTrustUSA? Has this funding for VoteTrustUSA and other voting rights groups been coming from Mrs. Curling directly, or from their foundation? If the money is from the foundation, has it been disclosed to the affiliates of VoteTrustUSA that according to SEC documents the Curling Foundation is a stockholder of Choicepoint?"

This is BS. I don't know how many times it needs to be repeated that Donna Curling is NOT on the Board of Directors of VoteTrustUSA. In fact, there is NO Board of Directors of VoteTrustUSA. Get your facts correct before you make statements, please. You will have a lot more credibility when you check your facts first.

As usual you also continue to use a wall paper paste brush to paint an oil painting. Neither Doug Curling, Donna Curling, or a "Curling Foundation" are funding VoteTrustUSA. Yes, Donna kindly helped us pay for a conference last year. So did other funders. Donna has made it crystal clear that the funds were hers and not from any other source. VoteTrustUSA, unlike some groups, relies on funds from the citizens and the blood, sweat, and, at times, tears of it's volunteers.

Get your facts straight and quit trying to involve other organizations in your vendetta." (same link as above).



This came from a link provided by Landshark, so I know that he has access to the info. Perhaps this will refresh his memory so that we can get beyond incorrect attributions of board membership to individuals for whom such attribution is inappropriate. I am certainly more than willing to correct my mis-labeling of John Gideon to the Board of BBV and will henceforth refer to him as a member of the Leadership Team of BBV, in which capacity he made his comments about Palast. I would hope that the failure to fully disclose the BBV venue in which the comments were made will be similarly discontinued.