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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:44 PM
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39. Like I said, the enlightenment period.
I was being subjected to this stuff beginning in the late 50's. But you are correct, Fred Phelps just publicly says what most fundies believe but have to dress up for presentation in a political context.
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  -When Does Religious Indoctrination Become Child Abuse? K8-EEE  Jul-10-06 12:23 PM   #0 
  - As an agnostic...  benburch   Jul-10-06 12:33 PM   #1 
  - But what about the Great Pumpkin?  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 12:36 PM   #3 
  - That too. nt  benburch   Jul-10-06 12:38 PM   #4 
     - I dunno. the great pumpkin still seems purty real to me.  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 01:24 PM   #34 
  - Santa Claus is fundamentally abusive?  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-10-06 12:43 PM   #9 
  - Yes, I believe so.  benburch   Jul-10-06 12:45 PM   #10 
     - See now...  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-10-06 12:48 PM   #13 
     - That's your right of course.  benburch   Jul-10-06 12:51 PM   #15 
        - So do I.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-10-06 12:55 PM   #16 
        - Is Santa Claus the truth?  benburch   Jul-10-06 01:03 PM   #22 
           - It's not the truth. But it's certainly not a lie.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-10-06 01:08 PM   #27 
           - My oldest balled his eyes out at his mother and I for lying to him.  LincolnMcGrath   Jul-10-06 02:05 PM   #44 
              - My youngest did too.  riderinthestorm   Jul-11-06 02:25 PM   #72 
           - I Did Feel "Played" About Santa Clause...  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 01:10 PM   #28 
           - So do you think all  SheilaT   Jul-10-06 01:19 PM   #32 
           - I told my kids the same story I was told...  Viva_La_Revolution   Jul-10-06 03:18 PM   #53 
              - That's the way to go, I think.  SheilaT   Jul-11-06 01:49 PM   #70 
        - while I agree in principle about that fat man in red, I disagree slightly  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 01:23 PM   #33 
        - I strongly second that emotion.  raccoon   Jul-11-06 08:28 AM   #65 
     - EVERYONE teaches and believes a form of reality  FarceOfNature   Jul-10-06 03:24 PM   #54 
  - i think santa claus can help children develop their reasoning skills  fishwax   Jul-10-06 01:56 PM   #41 
  - for an agnostic  hfojvt   Jul-10-06 03:10 PM   #52 
  - I am an agnostic because...  benburch   Jul-10-06 09:24 PM   #58 
  - amen to that.  idgiehkt   Jul-10-06 05:21 PM   #56 
  - I have been arguing this for years. It is child abuse  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 12:36 PM   #2 
  - Makes me think that many people think children are property  izzie   Jul-10-06 12:38 PM   #5 
  - Children are property  undergroundpanther   Jul-10-06 01:04 PM   #24 
     - Yep....  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 01:08 PM   #26 
     - And the saddest thing is  undergroundpanther   Jul-10-06 02:22 PM   #47 
     - I am going to read that item tonight. Thanks.  izzie   Jul-10-06 05:01 PM   #55 
  - I was taught that in Catholic school in the 50s  Warpy   Jul-10-06 12:39 PM   #6 
  - today's Ireland is very different.  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 12:42 PM   #7 
  - I know, Rome could always count on the Irish being more Catholic  Warpy   Jul-10-06 01:54 PM   #40 
     - it is a healthy change for Ireland  antifaschits   Jul-11-06 07:42 AM   #59 
  - Kinda Scary, The Homeschooled Fundies Though....  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 12:42 PM   #8 
     - Your post gave me a great idea. Let's call them xtian madrassas!  antifaschits   Jul-10-06 01:57 PM   #43 
  - one clear-cut example  Bill McBlueState   Jul-10-06 12:46 PM   #11 
  - starting about 2003 i was saying this to the christian school kids went to  seabeyond   Jul-10-06 12:46 PM   #12 
  - huh?  BuhByeChimp   Jul-10-06 12:50 PM   #14 
  - Uh-huh!  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 01:01 PM   #19 
  - Religious zealotry is same, no matter what the religion  LostinVA   Jul-10-06 01:03 PM   #23 
  - It becomes child abuse when it causes the child to grow up in a  Freedom_from_Chains   Jul-10-06 12:55 PM   #17 
  - but that can apply to anything.  BuhByeChimp   Jul-10-06 01:03 PM   #21 
     - It's Not Just "A Religious Summer Camp"  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 01:06 PM   #25 
        - Correct, unfortunately too many Democrats, who have not been  Freedom_from_Chains   Jul-10-06 01:19 PM   #31 
           - Yeah that  MountainLaurel   Jul-10-06 01:27 PM   #35 
              - LOL, you must have grown up in the enlightenment period.  Freedom_from_Chains   Jul-10-06 01:31 PM   #37 
                 - Oh no.  MountainLaurel   Jul-10-06 01:34 PM   #38 
                    - Like I said, the enlightenment period.  Freedom_from_Chains   Jul-10-06 01:44 PM   #39 
                    - By the way, like the homepage you have listed.  Freedom_from_Chains   Jul-10-06 02:10 PM   #46 
  - when you are condemned to hell at birth re original sin ->  msongs   Jul-10-06 01:01 PM   #18 
  - "God Loves You, Don't Make Him Throw You In the LakeOFire!"  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 01:03 PM   #20 
     - "Now, tell Jesus you're sorry"  MountainLaurel   Jul-10-06 01:29 PM   #36 
     - How religion affected me as a kid  undergroundpanther   Jul-10-06 01:56 PM   #42 
     - i really respect you for what you just said.  datasuspect   Jul-11-06 08:00 AM   #64 
     - god is the ultimate alcoholic father  datasuspect   Jul-11-06 07:55 AM   #62 
  - I'll have to see this before I make Judgements...  FairVotes4all   Jul-10-06 01:12 PM   #29 
  - See my post #42  undergroundpanther   Jul-10-06 02:34 PM   #48 
  - When it happens. eom  ToeBot   Jul-10-06 01:16 PM   #30 
  - Just religious indoctrination?  Juffo Wup   Jul-10-06 02:08 PM   #45 
  - I think  undergroundpanther   Jul-10-06 02:52 PM   #49 
  - We already have laws that dictate how to raise children -- thank goodness  LostinVA   Jul-11-06 07:59 AM   #63 
     - You know what I mean  Juffo Wup   Jul-11-06 08:33 AM   #66 
        - Not ONE PERSON said Sunday school equals child abuse  LostinVA   Jul-11-06 08:49 AM   #68 
  - "worth dying for" = "worth killing for."  patcox2   Jul-10-06 02:59 PM   #50 
  - Exactly! Perfect Tool For War Profiteers...  K8-EEE   Jul-10-06 06:52 PM   #57 
  - There's always going to be that element in society.  rucky   Jul-10-06 03:03 PM   #51 
  - When the child's rights are infringed and their health is endangered. -n/t  porphyrian   Jul-11-06 07:43 AM   #60 
  - christian madrassah!  datasuspect   Jul-11-06 07:51 AM   #61 
  - many groups exist to support those recovering from religious indoctrinatio  w8liftinglady   Jul-11-06 08:38 AM   #67 
  - That Is Really Interesting  K8-EEE   Jul-11-06 08:17 PM   #73 
  - When They Shame a Kid - For Acting Like a Kid  Crisco   Jul-11-06 08:50 AM   #69 
  - Never.  genie_weenie   Jul-11-06 02:14 PM   #71 
 

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