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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-09-06 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #124
129. If you're not doing everything you can to fight the Repub --
who vociferously supports the war -- then you are helping to support the war, just as much as he is.
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  -Mark Wilson drops out of Senate nomination challenge- all DINO now upi402  Jul-09-06 02:22 AM   #0 
  - Volkswagen is a global company and employs many in North America n/t  RGBolen   Jul-09-06 02:34 AM   #1 
  - Yes, it's all % content now. Funny it's cheaper to build here for Japanese  upi402   Jul-09-06 02:47 AM   #2 
  - I still WILL not vote for her  DELUSIONAL   Jul-09-06 02:49 AM   #3 
  - I will NOT vote for her either.  upi402   Jul-09-06 02:57 AM   #4 
  - There won't be anything left to rebuild. The Republicans don't believe  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:39 PM   #32 
  - If you liked Mark Wilson so much, maybe you should listen to him now  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 03:02 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-06 03:40 AM   #8 
  - Half of the Democrats voted for IWR. Are you saying that they're  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:37 PM   #31 
  - Well, they may not all be DINOS, but they sure don't have much fokkin'  kath   Jul-09-06 12:49 PM   #35 
  - I would LOVE for them to get more of a backbone.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:01 PM   #39 
  - You're off by 9%  eridani   Jul-11-06 03:05 AM   #136 
  - His family wasn't threatened. He had no chance in this contest. (nt)  w4rma   Jul-09-06 03:25 PM   #63 
  - that's a stupid reply  WI_DEM   Jul-09-06 03:38 PM   #68 
  - don't like him *that* much. he's obviously not worth following.  upi402   Jul-09-06 04:46 AM   #12 
  - So you, in your desire to punish her mistakes, will help her  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 03:08 AM   #7 
  - CANTWELL doesn't care. You really don't see that?  upi402   Jul-09-06 04:48 AM   #13 
     - How about a vote?  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 11:59 AM   #20 
  - I respect your decision and I challenge it:  IndyOp   Jul-09-06 04:01 PM   #71 
  - Good post, IndyOp. I would add just one thing.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:41 PM   #88 
  - The Chairman of the Republican National Committee has asked  Biernuts   Jul-09-06 06:33 PM   #86 
     - How hard would it be for the Republicans to have a few people in DU  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:44 PM   #89 
        - Every time I see a "That's the last straw boys and girls, join me  Biernuts   Jul-09-06 07:32 PM   #96 
           - I'm beginning to think we were all better off when both the  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:45 PM   #104 
  - She's a progressive, not a DINO, which you can verify by looking  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 03:03 AM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-06 03:59 AM   #9 
  - I think delusional pretty much says it all.  SquireJons   Jul-09-06 04:13 AM   #11 
  - Don't you see? Both R and D will be corporatists now!!!!!  upi402   Jul-09-06 05:00 AM   #17 
     - I WOULD RATHER HAVE JOHN D ROCKEFELLER THAN PAT ROBERTS  emulatorloo   Jul-09-06 08:46 AM   #18 
     - I'm betting, with your repetition of the word "corporatist" that  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:18 PM   #23 
     - Jeebus - so only Naderites use the word "corporatist"?!?! Bullshit.  kath   Jul-09-06 12:47 PM   #33 
        - The way to stop them, then, is to take control of one of the  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:09 PM   #40 
     - So, rather than make some improvements  kiahzero   Jul-09-06 12:20 PM   #24 
     - I think some of the people who talk this way are  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:25 PM   #26 
        - Consequences don't matter to some.  kiahzero   Jul-09-06 12:29 PM   #29 
     - Let's fight one battle at a time n/t  SquireJons   Jul-09-06 03:43 PM   #70 
  - That "no" to a filibuster may ruin US more than the Iraq position.  upi402   Jul-09-06 04:58 AM   #16 
  - Her not going along with a filibuster didn't affect anything.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:23 PM   #25 
  - Of course you decide what to do with your vote, and if you choose  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:09 PM   #21 
  - I don't know what all the fuss is about  SquireJons   Jul-09-06 04:05 AM   #10 
  - You say you're reluctant to call Lieberman a DINO...  upi402   Jul-09-06 04:52 AM   #15 
     - Lieberman votes the progressive position 76% of the time  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:29 PM   #28 
     - I didn't say I liked him  SquireJons   Jul-09-06 03:41 PM   #69 
  - DINO followed her for many years  upi402   Jul-09-06 04:50 AM   #14 
     - The Greens like to call her a DINO, because they're trying to  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:13 PM   #22 
        - Her continuing support for the war is stilll there 5 years later.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 12:57 PM   #37 
        - Unlike the Republicans, she joined most Democrats in voting for  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:24 PM   #46 
           - She voted no on the Kerry bill.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 01:28 PM   #49 
              - McGavick opposed Levin-Reed as well as the Kerry bill.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:32 PM   #52 
                 - Oh, I don't know. I think there will be a 3rd choice.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:15 PM   #94 
                    - Only a 3rd choice that would swing the election to the Republicans.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:43 PM   #103 
                       - Yet.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:54 PM   #111 
                          - We don't have time for "later." Right now is the CRITICAL moment.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 08:11 PM   #119 
                          - It's always a "critical" moment in politics.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 08:22 PM   #120 
                             - I've been voting almost as long as you and I've never seen a time  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 09:58 PM   #126 
                          - When WA state Greens have even one PCO  eridani   Jul-11-06 03:09 AM   #137 
        - She'll also be the first vote of the Iran war, too nt  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 06:02 PM   #76 
  - Well now voters choose between the (D) and the (R)  skipos   Jul-09-06 09:10 AM   #19 
  - a voice of reason  AtomicKitten   Jul-09-06 01:00 PM   #38 
  - IF true, it is in the BEST interest of the Democratic Party  WA98296   Jul-09-06 12:26 PM   #27 
  - That's right. Once we have a majority, those on the left will  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 12:31 PM   #30 
  - Good  KingFlorez   Jul-09-06 12:48 PM   #34 
  - Well, I'll be voting "selectively" come November.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 12:55 PM   #36 
  - Did you read this?  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:15 PM   #42 
  - Well, Mark and I differ.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 01:17 PM   #43 
     - She voted for Levin-Reed. McGavin opposed it.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:31 PM   #51 
  - Great....a lot of Nader Voters made the same decision  Diane R   Jul-09-06 03:21 PM   #60 
     - Of course it had nothing to do with Gore not going after those votes.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 03:24 PM   #62 
        - Gore didn't pursue right wingers. But a third of the country consider  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:00 PM   #74 
           - Well, ignored a segment of the independents who didn't vote for him.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 06:59 PM   #90 
              - The vast majority of independents consider themselves "moderate" --  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:48 PM   #107 
  - I am having a hard time convincing myself that she's worth my vote  Generic Other   Jul-09-06 01:11 PM   #41 
  - Her vote was NOT a personal repudiation of YOU or your views.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:21 PM   #44 
     - But my non-vote will be a personal repudiation of her views however  Generic Other   Jul-09-06 01:51 PM   #56 
        - Because Cantwell's position on Iraq -- which is that we should  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:04 PM   #77 
  - Keep pressure on Cantwell. Mark Wilson did this, we need to continue it  uppityperson   Jul-09-06 01:24 PM   #45 
  - I wrote and told her she could whistle for my vote.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 01:26 PM   #47 
  - And what sort of influence do you think you'll have on the Republican?  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:28 PM   #50 
     - About the same as I have on Cantwell.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 01:32 PM   #53 
        - Aint that the truth!  Generic Other   Jul-09-06 01:54 PM   #57 
        - Maybe because the Republicans keep winning?  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:05 PM   #78 
        - What are the benefits of a Republican win to you?  skipos   Jul-09-06 02:28 PM   #58 
        - I'll have zero influence on McGavick. For the sake of argument,  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 05:57 PM   #73 
  - I agree, keep up the pressure on Cantwell.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 01:27 PM   #48 
     - Sometimes things have to get really bad for things to change  uppityperson   Jul-09-06 01:36 PM   #54 
        - Perhaps that's only when the whole world is engulfed in Nuclear fallout?  w4rma   Jul-09-06 03:29 PM   #64 
        - "Naderite crap"? excuse me?  uppityperson   Jul-09-06 03:36 PM   #66 
        - We ARE steadily slipping into a dictatorship. Right now. It might  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:14 PM   #81 
           - I don't. I know. I am.  uppityperson   Jul-09-06 06:31 PM   #84 
              - I think you're right that progressives need to let her hear our  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:39 PM   #87 
  - Cantwell stands ground on Iraq.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 01:38 PM   #55 
  - If you want to argue that her position on Iraq sucks, it is easy to do  skipos   Jul-09-06 02:31 PM   #59 
  - The "war" is not one issue.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 03:22 PM   #61 
     - Again, do you vote exclusively on Iraq?  skipos   Jul-09-06 04:05 PM   #72 
        - I'm all for a Democratic majority.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:47 PM   #106 
           - Jolene Unseld wasn't running in a statewide election.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:53 PM   #109 
           - Murray voted against the war. How did she win?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 08:05 PM   #116 
              - Patty Murray was a two-term incumbant and Nethercutt was a weak  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 08:24 PM   #121 
           - No.  skipos   Jul-09-06 08:55 PM   #125 
              - I think his real position is:  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 10:01 PM   #127 
  - This is her more recent statement:  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:21 PM   #82 
  - I understand how you feel, but if the best we can do  Reckon   Jul-09-06 03:34 PM   #65 
  - well he decided to drop out and take an active role in Cantwell's  WI_DEM   Jul-09-06 03:36 PM   #67 
  - I believe he thinks he can influence Cantwell to listen to progressives.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:26 PM   #83 
  - Lamont has a buttload of money  eridani   Jul-11-06 03:14 AM   #138 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-06 06:01 PM   #75 
  - actually, please don't and here's why:  helderheid   Jul-09-06 06:06 PM   #79 
  - Oh come on, she won't lose because the Greens get a few  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 07:04 PM   #91 
     - The Green vote COULD EASILY swing the election to the Republicans.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:37 PM   #99 
        - Then maybe the WA Dems will think twice next time  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 07:47 PM   #105 
        - Cantwell is not a hawk. McGavick IS a hawk.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:56 PM   #112 
           - I wonder how far left a prowar person can be  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 07:59 PM   #113 
              - She's not a hawk and she's not prowar.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 08:08 PM   #118 
                 - Now that we're in there...with her help.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 08:31 PM   #123 
                 - This is your opinion, and you have nothing to back it up  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 10:05 PM   #128 
                 - If she's not strongly denouncing this murderous, horrific, immoral war  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 08:35 PM   #124 
                    - If you're not doing everything you can to fight the Repub --  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 10:07 PM   #129 
        - In this "swing" state, the even more liberal Patty Murray won by 12%.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:53 PM   #110 
           - Patty Murray's overall voting record is slightly more liberal  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:59 PM   #114 
              - It's a lot more liberal on the war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 08:06 PM   #117 
                 - I prefer Patty Murray's votes, and I've told Cantwell what I think.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 08:26 PM   #122 
  - Before you listen to pitches for Green votes, remember what  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 06:33 PM   #85 
     - Hey I support Democrats at home  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 07:05 PM   #92 
     - Washington is NOT a liberal state. It's a closely divided, swing state.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:28 PM   #95 
        - Cantwell can't be called progressive  Terran1212   Jul-09-06 07:40 PM   #100 
           - That's YOUR personal opinion.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:42 PM   #102 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-09-06 07:53 PM   #108 
                 - When, by voting 3rd party, you willingly help to swing an election to  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 08:02 PM   #115 
     - How dare they!!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:06 PM   #93 
        - Of course they can do it. But if people here at Democratic Underground  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:32 PM   #97 
           - Her support of the occupation is well documented.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-09-06 07:35 PM   #98 
              - Right on their website. Here's one example.  pnwmom   Jul-09-06 07:40 PM   #101 
                 - You really don't help Cantwell  JetCityLiberal   Jul-10-06 01:55 PM   #132 
                    - that's all they have--bullying and threats  MisterP   Jul-10-06 02:16 PM   #134 
  - Well, you and I may  raysr   Jul-09-06 06:08 PM   #80 
  - American car companies are a joke  iconoclastNYC   Jul-10-06 01:10 PM   #130 
  - don't forget Hong Tran, another challenger to Sta. Maria  MisterP   Jul-10-06 01:52 PM   #131 
  - Ask yourself  WilliamPitt   Jul-10-06 01:59 PM   #133 
  - I despise Cantwell  hawkowl88   Jul-10-06 05:14 PM   #135 
     - That isn't why Murray won  eridani   Jul-11-06 03:17 AM   #139 
  - Let's see how she votes on William Haynes nomination in the Senate soon...  calipendence   Jul-12-06 11:39 AM   #140 
 

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