Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun Jul-09-06 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #74 |
| 90. Well, ignored a segment of the independents who didn't vote for him. |
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Namely, the ones who voted Green.
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| -Mark Wilson drops out of Senate nomination challenge- all DINO now |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 02:22 AM |
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Volkswagen is a global company and employs many in North America n/t |
RGBolen |
Jul-09-06 02:34 AM |
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Yes, it's all % content now. Funny it's cheaper to build here for Japanese |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 02:47 AM |
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I still WILL not vote for her |
DELUSIONAL |
Jul-09-06 02:49 AM |
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I will NOT vote for her either. |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 02:57 AM |
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There won't be anything left to rebuild. The Republicans don't believe |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:39 PM |
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If you liked Mark Wilson so much, maybe you should listen to him now |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 03:02 AM |
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Jul-09-06 03:40 AM |
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Half of the Democrats voted for IWR. Are you saying that they're |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:37 PM |
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Well, they may not all be DINOS, but they sure don't have much fokkin' |
kath |
Jul-09-06 12:49 PM |
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I would LOVE for them to get more of a backbone. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:01 PM |
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You're off by 9% |
eridani |
Jul-11-06 03:05 AM |
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His family wasn't threatened. He had no chance in this contest. (nt) |
w4rma |
Jul-09-06 03:25 PM |
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that's a stupid reply |
WI_DEM |
Jul-09-06 03:38 PM |
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don't like him *that* much. he's obviously not worth following. |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 04:46 AM |
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So you, in your desire to punish her mistakes, will help her |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 03:08 AM |
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CANTWELL doesn't care. You really don't see that? |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 04:48 AM |
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How about a vote? |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 11:59 AM |
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I respect your decision and I challenge it: |
IndyOp |
Jul-09-06 04:01 PM |
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Good post, IndyOp. I would add just one thing. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:41 PM |
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The Chairman of the Republican National Committee has asked |
Biernuts |
Jul-09-06 06:33 PM |
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How hard would it be for the Republicans to have a few people in DU |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:44 PM |
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Every time I see a "That's the last straw boys and girls, join me |
Biernuts |
Jul-09-06 07:32 PM |
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I'm beginning to think we were all better off when both the |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:45 PM |
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She's a progressive, not a DINO, which you can verify by looking |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 03:03 AM |
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Jul-09-06 03:59 AM |
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I think delusional pretty much says it all. |
SquireJons |
Jul-09-06 04:13 AM |
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Don't you see? Both R and D will be corporatists now!!!!! |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 05:00 AM |
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I WOULD RATHER HAVE JOHN D ROCKEFELLER THAN PAT ROBERTS |
emulatorloo |
Jul-09-06 08:46 AM |
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I'm betting, with your repetition of the word "corporatist" that |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:18 PM |
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Jeebus - so only Naderites use the word "corporatist"?!?! Bullshit. |
kath |
Jul-09-06 12:47 PM |
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The way to stop them, then, is to take control of one of the |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:09 PM |
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So, rather than make some improvements |
kiahzero |
Jul-09-06 12:20 PM |
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I think some of the people who talk this way are |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:25 PM |
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Consequences don't matter to some. |
kiahzero |
Jul-09-06 12:29 PM |
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Let's fight one battle at a time n/t |
SquireJons |
Jul-09-06 03:43 PM |
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That "no" to a filibuster may ruin US more than the Iraq position. |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 04:58 AM |
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Her not going along with a filibuster didn't affect anything. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:23 PM |
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Of course you decide what to do with your vote, and if you choose |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:09 PM |
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I don't know what all the fuss is about |
SquireJons |
Jul-09-06 04:05 AM |
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You say you're reluctant to call Lieberman a DINO... |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 04:52 AM |
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Lieberman votes the progressive position 76% of the time |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:29 PM |
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I didn't say I liked him |
SquireJons |
Jul-09-06 03:41 PM |
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DINO followed her for many years |
upi402 |
Jul-09-06 04:50 AM |
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The Greens like to call her a DINO, because they're trying to |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:13 PM |
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Her continuing support for the war is stilll there 5 years later. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 12:57 PM |
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Unlike the Republicans, she joined most Democrats in voting for |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:24 PM |
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She voted no on the Kerry bill. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 01:28 PM |
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McGavick opposed Levin-Reed as well as the Kerry bill. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:32 PM |
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Oh, I don't know. I think there will be a 3rd choice. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:15 PM |
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Only a 3rd choice that would swing the election to the Republicans. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:43 PM |
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Yet. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:54 PM |
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We don't have time for "later." Right now is the CRITICAL moment. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 08:11 PM |
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It's always a "critical" moment in politics. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 08:22 PM |
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I've been voting almost as long as you and I've never seen a time |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 09:58 PM |
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When WA state Greens have even one PCO |
eridani |
Jul-11-06 03:09 AM |
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She'll also be the first vote of the Iran war, too nt |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 06:02 PM |
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Well now voters choose between the (D) and the (R) |
skipos |
Jul-09-06 09:10 AM |
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a voice of reason |
AtomicKitten |
Jul-09-06 01:00 PM |
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IF true, it is in the BEST interest of the Democratic Party |
WA98296 |
Jul-09-06 12:26 PM |
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That's right. Once we have a majority, those on the left will |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 12:31 PM |
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Good |
KingFlorez |
Jul-09-06 12:48 PM |
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Well, I'll be voting "selectively" come November. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 12:55 PM |
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Did you read this? |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:15 PM |
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Well, Mark and I differ. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 01:17 PM |
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She voted for Levin-Reed. McGavin opposed it. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:31 PM |
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Great....a lot of Nader Voters made the same decision |
Diane R |
Jul-09-06 03:21 PM |
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Of course it had nothing to do with Gore not going after those votes. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 03:24 PM |
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Gore didn't pursue right wingers. But a third of the country consider |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:00 PM |
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Well, ignored a segment of the independents who didn't vote for him. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 06:59 PM |
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The vast majority of independents consider themselves "moderate" -- |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:48 PM |
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I am having a hard time convincing myself that she's worth my vote |
Generic Other |
Jul-09-06 01:11 PM |
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Her vote was NOT a personal repudiation of YOU or your views. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:21 PM |
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But my non-vote will be a personal repudiation of her views however |
Generic Other |
Jul-09-06 01:51 PM |
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Because Cantwell's position on Iraq -- which is that we should |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:04 PM |
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Keep pressure on Cantwell. Mark Wilson did this, we need to continue it |
uppityperson |
Jul-09-06 01:24 PM |
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I wrote and told her she could whistle for my vote. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 01:26 PM |
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And what sort of influence do you think you'll have on the Republican? |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:28 PM |
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About the same as I have on Cantwell. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 01:32 PM |
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Aint that the truth! |
Generic Other |
Jul-09-06 01:54 PM |
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Maybe because the Republicans keep winning? |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:05 PM |
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What are the benefits of a Republican win to you? |
skipos |
Jul-09-06 02:28 PM |
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I'll have zero influence on McGavick. For the sake of argument, |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 05:57 PM |
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I agree, keep up the pressure on Cantwell. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 01:27 PM |
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Sometimes things have to get really bad for things to change |
uppityperson |
Jul-09-06 01:36 PM |
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Perhaps that's only when the whole world is engulfed in Nuclear fallout? |
w4rma |
Jul-09-06 03:29 PM |
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"Naderite crap"? excuse me? |
uppityperson |
Jul-09-06 03:36 PM |
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We ARE steadily slipping into a dictatorship. Right now. It might |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:14 PM |
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I don't. I know. I am. |
uppityperson |
Jul-09-06 06:31 PM |
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I think you're right that progressives need to let her hear our |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:39 PM |
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Cantwell stands ground on Iraq. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 01:38 PM |
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If you want to argue that her position on Iraq sucks, it is easy to do |
skipos |
Jul-09-06 02:31 PM |
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The "war" is not one issue. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 03:22 PM |
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Again, do you vote exclusively on Iraq? |
skipos |
Jul-09-06 04:05 PM |
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I'm all for a Democratic majority. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:47 PM |
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Jolene Unseld wasn't running in a statewide election. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:53 PM |
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Murray voted against the war. How did she win? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 08:05 PM |
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Patty Murray was a two-term incumbant and Nethercutt was a weak |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 08:24 PM |
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No. |
skipos |
Jul-09-06 08:55 PM |
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I think his real position is: |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 10:01 PM |
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This is her more recent statement: |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:21 PM |
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I understand how you feel, but if the best we can do |
Reckon |
Jul-09-06 03:34 PM |
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well he decided to drop out and take an active role in Cantwell's |
WI_DEM |
Jul-09-06 03:36 PM |
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I believe he thinks he can influence Cantwell to listen to progressives. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:26 PM |
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Lamont has a buttload of money |
eridani |
Jul-11-06 03:14 AM |
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Jul-09-06 06:01 PM |
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actually, please don't and here's why: |
helderheid |
Jul-09-06 06:06 PM |
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Oh come on, she won't lose because the Greens get a few |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 07:04 PM |
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The Green vote COULD EASILY swing the election to the Republicans. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:37 PM |
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Then maybe the WA Dems will think twice next time |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 07:47 PM |
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Cantwell is not a hawk. McGavick IS a hawk. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:56 PM |
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I wonder how far left a prowar person can be |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 07:59 PM |
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She's not a hawk and she's not prowar. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 08:08 PM |
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Now that we're in there...with her help. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 08:31 PM |
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This is your opinion, and you have nothing to back it up |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 10:05 PM |
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If she's not strongly denouncing this murderous, horrific, immoral war |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 08:35 PM |
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If you're not doing everything you can to fight the Repub -- |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 10:07 PM |
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In this "swing" state, the even more liberal Patty Murray won by 12%. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:53 PM |
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Patty Murray's overall voting record is slightly more liberal |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:59 PM |
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It's a lot more liberal on the war. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 08:06 PM |
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I prefer Patty Murray's votes, and I've told Cantwell what I think. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 08:26 PM |
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Before you listen to pitches for Green votes, remember what |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 06:33 PM |
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Hey I support Democrats at home |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 07:05 PM |
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Washington is NOT a liberal state. It's a closely divided, swing state. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:28 PM |
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Cantwell can't be called progressive |
Terran1212 |
Jul-09-06 07:40 PM |
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That's YOUR personal opinion. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:42 PM |
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Jul-09-06 07:53 PM |
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When, by voting 3rd party, you willingly help to swing an election to |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 08:02 PM |
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How dare they!! |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:06 PM |
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Of course they can do it. But if people here at Democratic Underground |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:32 PM |
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Her support of the occupation is well documented. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-09-06 07:35 PM |
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Right on their website. Here's one example. |
pnwmom |
Jul-09-06 07:40 PM |
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You really don't help Cantwell |
JetCityLiberal |
Jul-10-06 01:55 PM |
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that's all they have--bullying and threats |
MisterP |
Jul-10-06 02:16 PM |
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Well, you and I may |
raysr |
Jul-09-06 06:08 PM |
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American car companies are a joke |
iconoclastNYC |
Jul-10-06 01:10 PM |
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don't forget Hong Tran, another challenger to Sta. Maria |
MisterP |
Jul-10-06 01:52 PM |
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Ask yourself |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-10-06 01:59 PM |
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I despise Cantwell |
hawkowl88 |
Jul-10-06 05:14 PM |
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That isn't why Murray won |
eridani |
Jul-11-06 03:17 AM |
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Let's see how she votes on William Haynes nomination in the Senate soon... |
calipendence |
Jul-12-06 11:39 AM |
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