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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 09:58 AM
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23. I think it's probable that you're concept of Jesus
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 09:59 AM by greyl
is better than the real thing, at least as far as statements attributed to him in the Bible.

It's a fact that the Bible states he advocated beating slaves, which of course means that slavery was effectively condoned by him.

# They should be beaten for disobedience, but not more severely then they deserve. --Jesus never denounced slavery: he endorsed it! He incorporated it into his teachings as if it were the most natural order (which it was for the biblical writers who didn't know any better). Why doesn't the bible--supposedly inspired by an all-loving deity--ever hint that there is something wrong with such a brutal social institution? If it were not for the influence of the bible (see answer 'd' below), the appalling American slave trade might have been curtailed, along with the bloody Civil War.

"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes." (Luke 12:47-48) The entire context (Luke 12:41-48) shows that this is not part of a parable--it is the explanation of a parable, after Peter asked a question. But even if it were a parable, it would carry the same weight as a teaching of Jesus.

The word "servant" above is doulos, which means "slave" in Greek, and is correctly rendered "slave" by the NRSV, NAS, Scholar's Version, and others. "Shall" meant "should," as Jesus adds: "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required." (Luke 12:48)
http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/bquiz.php


Finally, this really highlights the disadvantage of written traditions vs oral traditions. Oral traditions of religion change from generation to generation so that they continue to make sense and become more relevant. With dogma, everyone gets split up over interpretations and misinterpretations.
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