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14. Rec'd -
Tip of the hat to the mods for moving this back to GD. Since she's already said that she's going for donations hard this year, DUers have every right to see just how she accounts (or NOT!) for what she does with it!

Bev Harris in her own words:
"I'm going on record now: Black Box Voting is going to be very aggressive about fund raising in 2006."
http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-profile.c...

Part of that aggressiveness has already reared it's ugly head on DU - the same old tactic of trying to divert attention from questions by attempting to blame shit on Andy.

Again.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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  -Bev Harris and BBV.org's IRS 990 filing Kelvin Mace  Jun-29-06 10:08 AM   #0 
  - Kick  Prag   Jun-29-06 10:13 AM   #1 
  - Please *everyone* reading this post - put your $ and energy into  IndyOp   Jun-29-06 11:09 AM   #2 
  - Good, but  Febble   Jun-29-06 11:29 AM   #5 
  - Fair enough, Febbie!  benburch   Jun-29-06 11:35 AM   #7 
  - Febble - Please direct me to  IndyOp   Jun-29-06 12:37 PM   #11 
     - Febble is a good sport, but  OnTheOtherHand   Jun-29-06 02:15 PM   #13 
  - Thanks for the excellent post  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 02:38 PM   #16 
  - I don't see two sides here, e.g. "a debate". That grifter  sfexpat2000   Jun-29-06 03:59 PM   #30 
  - Thanks very much for this post IndyOp! Bookmarking!  lonestarnot   Jun-29-06 08:31 PM   #80 
  - IndyOp, if you haven't already, can you post this as its own thread?  arnheim   Jul-02-06 07:05 PM   #170 
  - They'll be hearing from the IRS  REACTIVATED IN CT   Jun-29-06 11:25 AM   #3 
  - self-deleted  Febble   Jun-29-06 11:28 AM   #4 
  - And I wonder how much of it is even true? nt  benburch   Jun-29-06 11:30 AM   #6 
  - That's my thought  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 02:40 PM   #17 
  - Not necessarily  banana republican   Jun-29-06 07:46 PM   #62 
  - It just never ends  Boredtodeath   Jun-29-06 11:53 AM   #8 
  - We are nearing the anniversary of his death.  benburch   Jun-29-06 11:56 AM   #9 
     - I can't think of a better present than  hootinholler   Jun-29-06 12:36 PM   #10 
     - Agreed.  benburch   Jun-29-06 12:37 PM   #12 
        - I imagine that you can rest assured she'll be audited.  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 05:17 PM   #44 
        - I wonder, has anyone seen the bbv.org's Application for Exemption?  djmaddox1   Jun-30-06 02:10 AM   #107 
           - Guidestar lists bbv as a 501 (c) (3) Public Charity  flyingobject   Jun-30-06 11:27 AM   #122 
           - That much, at least, is legitimate  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 02:07 PM   #130 
              - It looks like an incomplete disclosure ...  djmaddox1   Jul-01-06 10:18 AM   #153 
                 - Most interesting.  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 08:11 PM   #155 
        - Call the IRS  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-29-06 07:55 PM   #69 
        - YES !!! File IRS FORM 3949-A  banana republican   Jun-29-06 08:54 PM   #84 
           - A couple of big quibbles  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 12:06 AM   #91 
              - From the Kos link  Techno Dog   Jun-30-06 12:17 AM   #93 
                 - I don't think it is an "automatic" extension  Stephanie   Jun-30-06 12:33 AM   #94 
                 - BOTH 3 month extensions  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 12:46 AM   #97 
                    - She is filing an extension for Corporate Taxes not Payroll Taxes  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-30-06 10:04 AM   #118 
                       - Yes, I understand that exactly. We are talking two different things here  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 01:26 PM   #125 
                 - I read that over there  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 12:35 AM   #95 
                 - That's always been my number one problem  Techno Dog   Jun-30-06 12:41 AM   #96 
                    - Yup  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 12:47 AM   #98 
                       - I know this might not be  Techno Dog   Jun-30-06 01:17 AM   #103 
                          - I think it does not belong in this thread.  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 01:28 AM   #104 
                             - Not sure what you mean.  Techno Dog   Jun-30-06 01:36 AM   #105 
                             - if you scroll down the link Techno Dog gave  flyingobject   Jul-01-06 09:15 AM   #151 
                 - Why would they even need an extension  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-30-06 10:00 AM   #117 
     - I remember it so well benburch  CountAllVotes   Jun-29-06 03:39 PM   #24 
        - Yes, what day do we do it  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 03:49 PM   #26 
        - We should do it the day he died  CountAllVotes   Jun-29-06 04:03 PM   #31 
           - Andy passed away on July 7th 2005....n/t  flyarm   Jun-30-06 01:02 AM   #99 
        - I do.  sfexpat2000   Jun-29-06 03:55 PM   #28 
        - It's a wonderful idea! How? n/t  djmaddox1   Jun-29-06 04:24 PM   #33 
           - Here is my idea  CountAllVotes   Jun-29-06 04:58 PM   #40 
              - It's a splendid idea!  djmaddox1   Jul-01-06 08:08 AM   #147 
                 - Andy said  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 08:49 AM   #149 
  - Rec'd -  djmaddox1   Jun-29-06 02:15 PM   #14 
  - Be sure to archive any posts from BBV.org  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 02:42 PM   #19 
  - yup  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 03:50 PM   #27 
  - Anyone ask for her audited financial statements yet? n/t  Nickster   Jun-29-06 02:20 PM   #15 
  - LOL  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-30-06 04:28 PM   #137 
  - Audited financials  Sgent   Jul-02-06 08:08 PM   #173 
  - Ok here's something that I find interesting. I was punching through  Nickster   Jun-29-06 02:40 PM   #18 
  - Hmmm...  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 02:43 PM   #20 
  - I'm passing on this form to bigger brains than myself to look over it.  Nickster   Jun-29-06 02:48 PM   #21 
     - That will be illuminating  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 02:54 PM   #22 
  - I suspect  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 05:25 PM   #48 
  - this pisses me off!  CountAllVotes   Jun-29-06 03:34 PM   #23 
  - Randi: " we raised all this money and then we don't hear from you"  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 03:48 PM   #25 
  - wow  blogslut   Jun-29-06 05:20 PM   #45 
  - It is bad, very bad.  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 06:37 PM   #57 
  - She says that Olbermann didn't contact her  arnheim   Jul-02-06 07:10 PM   #171 
  - Don't Worry, I Wouldn't Donate A Penny To That Egotistical Obnoxious Pig.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-29-06 03:57 PM   #29 
  - How much $$ is she claiming?  Stephanie   Jun-29-06 04:06 PM   #32 
  - $972,304 ... almost a million bucks!  djmaddox1   Jun-29-06 04:50 PM   #37 
     - yet no health insurance for Andy  Stephanie   Jun-29-06 04:55 PM   #39 
        - This is beyond a crime. It's a sin and she will burn for it  Cleita   Jun-29-06 05:06 PM   #42 
        - Apparently...  fooj   Jun-29-06 07:47 PM   #63 
           - In a NON-interest bearing account mind you  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 07:53 PM   #67 
              - First question that crossed my mind.  fooj   Jun-30-06 01:37 AM   #106 
  - I have a question.  Janice325   Jun-29-06 04:25 PM   #34 
  - checked my IM's  Stephanie   Jun-29-06 04:54 PM   #38 
  - yep on the RR show Dec 14, she acted like she didn't know  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 05:24 PM   #47 
  - She fired him PERSONALLY. nt  benburch   Jun-30-06 04:23 PM   #136 
  - This means Bev was lying when she said she  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 07:55 PM   #70 
     - I don't know  Stephanie   Jun-29-06 08:24 PM   #76 
  - Bev fired Andy on 12/14/04  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 07:00 PM   #58 
     - remember as well Randi did not take a phone call from Andy as well!  flyarm   Jun-30-06 01:12 AM   #101 
  - I saw through her early on.  Ksec   Jun-29-06 04:29 PM   #35 
  - Don't you think Diebold's accountants are going over this...  Junkdrawer   Jun-29-06 04:33 PM   #36 
  - So there are some Bev supporters out there!  NobleCynic   Jun-29-06 05:07 PM   #43 
  - You can always tell us "Bev supporters"...No pitchfork. n/t  Junkdrawer   Jun-29-06 05:56 PM   #52 
     - Blinders, maybe??  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 06:10 PM   #53 
        - I don't hang on every word, but I do keep tabs. And many many...  Junkdrawer   Jun-29-06 06:16 PM   #54 
        - Math isn['t grey  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 07:03 PM   #59 
           - What grey may mean is that  NobleCynic   Jun-30-06 11:02 AM   #120 
              - And IF this is the case,  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 01:31 PM   #126 
                 - Aye, Occam's razor is on your side here  NobleCynic   Jul-01-06 01:54 AM   #146 
        - I missed that thread -- thank goodness n/t  LostinVA   Jun-29-06 07:53 PM   #68 
  - and next they will ask  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 06:20 PM   #56 
  - Fair is fair. If we are examining the Diebold folks, they have a right to  IdaBriggs   Jun-30-06 09:10 AM   #114 
  - its the creditability factor  flyingobject   Jun-30-06 11:37 AM   #123 
  - Ida! Nice to hear from you  arnheim   Jul-01-06 09:49 PM   #158 
  - It is really getting to be a bit old to be constantly accused  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 09:55 AM   #116 
  - LOL - I find it interesting that you take my comments personally...  Junkdrawer   Jun-30-06 02:05 PM   #128 
     - You made a general statement  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 02:40 PM   #133 
        - The few times that I've read reports in the MSM critical of DREs...  Junkdrawer   Jun-30-06 03:19 PM   #134 
           - Billions?  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 03:46 PM   #135 
  - If Bev was so worried about Diebold trying to discredit her -  arnheim   Jul-01-06 09:45 PM   #157 
     - I can't understand why people can't see this  Kelvin Mace   Jul-04-06 09:55 PM   #192 
  - Anybody listen to Thom Hartmann this weekend and his  Cleita   Jun-29-06 05:04 PM   #41 
  - contact Thom Hartmann here:  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 05:21 PM   #46 
     - Thanks but it's not up to me or even other DUers. His friends  Cleita   Jun-29-06 06:19 PM   #55 
  - Worth reading (link from OP)!  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 05:35 PM   #49 
  - Does this look unusual:  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 05:40 PM   #50 
  - This one just mystefies me.  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 05:52 PM   #51 
  - where's the paper?  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 07:34 PM   #60 
     - The line item is "Printing and Publications" $45,215  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 07:47 PM   #64 
  - I used to publish a few alternative magazines and newspapers  htuttle   Jun-29-06 08:24 PM   #75 
     - EGADS!!!!! "a large garage full"  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 08:33 PM   #81 
        - 5,000 used to fill the backseat of my car past the window  htuttle   Jun-29-06 08:53 PM   #83 
        - My guess about the printing costs  demobabe   Jul-02-06 12:30 AM   #162 
           - Well, looking up the domain record...  benburch   Jul-02-06 02:27 PM   #166 
              - Uhhhh, hold on.......some FACTS  Boredtodeath   Jul-02-06 06:15 PM   #167 
                 - Well, the domain records don't lie, usually.  benburch   Jul-03-06 12:34 AM   #175 
                    - Talion  troubleinwinter   Jul-03-06 12:05 PM   #177 
                       - The Top 10 Ways to Spot Accounting Fraud by Bev Harris (Dudley)  troubleinwinter   Jul-03-06 12:54 PM   #179 
                       - Do you think this is really fraud?  benburch   Jul-03-06 03:21 PM   #186 
                          - I have never said I thought it was fraud.  troubleinwinter   Jul-03-06 03:47 PM   #187 
                             - Right.  benburch   Jul-03-06 04:26 PM   #188 
                       - Is Talion defunct?  benburch   Jul-03-06 03:17 PM   #185 
                          - I can't find anything for Talion after 2004 except...  troubleinwinter   Jul-03-06 06:16 PM   #190 
                          - Supposedly  Kelvin Mace   Jul-04-06 09:58 PM   #193 
  - $600,000.00++ in the bank !!!!! holy crap! n/t  AZDemDist6   Jun-29-06 07:40 PM   #61 
  - That was as of 6/05  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 07:52 PM   #66 
  - All that money  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-29-06 08:04 PM   #71 
  - Bev's claiming she paid Andy $4000/month!  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-29-06 07:50 PM   #65 
  - I think this is true, however  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 08:16 PM   #73 
  - Did Bev deducted payroll taxes  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-29-06 08:19 PM   #74 
     - Yes,  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 08:27 PM   #77 
        - Good, I hope someone kept them  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-29-06 08:45 PM   #82 
           - No CPA  Kelvin Mace   Jun-29-06 11:54 PM   #90 
              - If you were a CPA  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 12:07 AM   #92 
                 - No, but I would love to AUDIT them!  benburch   Jun-30-06 02:07 PM   #131 
  - one of Andy's relatives is here  tigersumtin   Jul-03-06 12:37 PM   #178 
     - Welcome, Andy's family!  troubleinwinter   Jul-03-06 12:56 PM   #180 
     - Thanks  tigersumtin   Jul-03-06 01:24 PM   #181 
     - HUGS!  benburch   Jul-03-06 01:40 PM   #182 
        - How u doing Ben  tigersumtin   Jul-03-06 01:52 PM   #183 
           - Doing OK here.  benburch   Jul-03-06 02:16 PM   #184 
  - And the grudge match continues.  BullGooseLoony   Jun-29-06 08:14 PM   #72 
  - it's not about getting along - it's about soliciting donations to audit FL  Stephanie   Jun-29-06 08:29 PM   #78 
  - its about transparency  flyingobject   Jun-29-06 08:55 PM   #85 
  - WOW, that is too bad.  lonestarnot   Jun-29-06 08:30 PM   #79 
  - Gosh, we were all such dupes  Generic Other   Jun-29-06 09:21 PM   #86 
  - And threatened to sue DU in the process  arnheim   Jul-01-06 09:51 PM   #159 
     - Bev said: "Olbermann really did not ever contact me."  flyingobject   Jul-02-06 01:03 AM   #164 
        - Yes, he did contact her - she managed to screw it up  arnheim   Jul-02-06 07:03 PM   #168 
        - Here is the link  arnheim   Jul-02-06 07:22 PM   #172 
        - Also one of the reasons that Bev went over the deep end  truedelphi   Jul-03-06 01:40 AM   #176 
  - kick  Swamp Rat   Jun-29-06 09:34 PM   #87 
  - Kos  troubleinwinter   Jun-29-06 10:33 PM   #88 
  - Kick n/t  Techno Dog   Jun-29-06 11:45 PM   #89 
  - Another example  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 01:06 AM   #100 
  - I wasn't here when all of this transpired but...  Jazz2006   Jun-30-06 01:13 AM   #102 
  - Some comments..  Princess Turandot   Jun-30-06 03:21 AM   #108 
  - This return seems to open up at least a few cans of worms  DoYouEverWonder   Jun-30-06 04:47 AM   #109 
  - taxes  Princess Turandot   Jun-30-06 05:22 AM   #110 
  - WA doesn't have state income tax n/t  Pachamama   Jun-30-06 05:27 AM   #111 
  - Bev specifically stated that an accounting firm  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 07:03 AM   #112 
     - It might be..  Princess Turandot   Jun-30-06 09:31 AM   #115 
        - Bev claimed the books were being handled  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 10:06 AM   #119 
           - Would this 'Johnson' be related to the 'Johnsen' that filed her ...  djmaddox1   Jul-01-06 10:29 AM   #154 
           - One is Lisa with a law firm,  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 08:21 PM   #156 
           - Andy and termite both told me about this!! n/t  flyarm   Jul-02-06 12:41 AM   #163 
           - This 990 was NOT prepared by an accounting firm  Sgent   Jul-02-06 08:21 PM   #174 
  - Kick  Boredtodeath   Jun-30-06 09:00 AM   #113 
  - kick n/t  Sydnie   Jun-30-06 11:04 AM   #121 
  - The Randi Rhodes audio is embarrassing  flyingobject   Jun-30-06 11:43 AM   #124 
  - Kick.(nt)  Kurovski   Jun-30-06 01:53 PM   #127 
  - Mods - Thanks for moving this back to GD.  benburch   Jun-30-06 02:06 PM   #129 
  - K & R  symbolman   Jun-30-06 02:26 PM   #132 
  - It's a GOOD THING BEV READS THESE THREADS  troubleinwinter   Jun-30-06 04:31 PM   #138 
  - Seems that if Bev didn't read the threads here  Kelvin Mace   Jun-30-06 05:21 PM   #139 
  - She only complies to the extent we force her to.  benburch   Jun-30-06 05:33 PM   #140 
  - Well, she DID say that she has to go to DU for real 'critiques' ...  djmaddox1   Jul-01-06 08:54 AM   #150 
  - OMG! too bad this isn't the beginning of the thread  flyingobject   Jun-30-06 06:15 PM   #141 
  - What is his phone number?  Stephanie   Jun-30-06 07:55 PM   #142 
  - You know, it's a good thing we have all that experience with the WA SOS.  sfexpat2000   Jul-01-06 12:38 AM   #143 
  - Very nice, helpful and knowledgeable staff, eh!!!  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 12:47 AM   #144 
     - Before this is over, they'll have a movie deal.  sfexpat2000   Jul-01-06 01:14 AM   #145 
        - I can see it now:  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 08:39 AM   #148 
           - I don't know  Kelvin Mace   Jul-04-06 10:06 PM   #194 
  - You have GOT to be kidding!  arnheim   Jul-01-06 09:53 PM   #160 
     - Well...  troubleinwinter   Jul-01-06 10:10 PM   #161 
        - Why am I not surprised??  arnheim   Jul-02-06 07:04 PM   #169 
  - Hah - lots of Tax Help & Relief Ads By Google on this page  flyingobject   Jul-01-06 09:17 AM   #152 
  - NEW INFO  troubleinwinter   Jul-02-06 11:35 AM   #165 
  - Whoever prepared this return  tibbir   Jul-03-06 04:36 PM   #189 
  - Are you saying she used "demo" numbers  Kelvin Mace   Jul-04-06 09:52 PM   #191 
     - I think she is saying  troubleinwinter   Jul-05-06 12:15 AM   #195 
        - OK, thanks for clarification  Kelvin Mace   Jul-05-06 10:38 AM   #196 
        - Duplicate deleted  Kelvin Mace   Jul-05-06 10:39 AM   #197 
  - Here: Qui Tam $68,500 donation, BBV. Not listed in tax filing.  troubleinwinter   Jul-06-06 01:11 AM   #198 
 

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