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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:59 AM
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31. We Use Those Terms To Distinguish them from Real Christians
Liberals don't respect Evangelicals, and no one believes they do, least of all Evangelicals. Scan a few posts. Look for words like "Talibornigain" or "Christofascists."


We use those terms for a reason. It would not be fair to use "Evangelicals" or "Christian" in their place, because the contexts in which we use them do not apply to most
Christians or even most Evangelicals. If you think we should be respectful to the likes of Dobson or Ralph Reed, I will have to respectfully disagree.

The problem is that any criticism whatsoever of these right-wing pseudo-Christians gets framed as an attack on Christiantity, no matter how we phrase it.

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  -Jerry Springer is basically saying Obama is right. iconoclastNYC  Jun-29-06 09:26 AM   #0 
  - OBAMA is right. If no one can see that religion is important to  xultar   Jun-29-06 09:31 AM   #1 
  - Hmmmm  bryant69   Jun-29-06 09:35 AM   #5 
  - DING DING DING! Bryant69, you're our grand prize winner!  rocknation   Jun-29-06 10:06 AM   #21 
  - I agree with you after reading the full text  goclark   Jun-29-06 09:37 AM   #7 
  - I am with you Xultar. I am not Christian and I believe  IndyOp   Jun-29-06 09:46 AM   #14 
  - Obama  RufusEarl   Jun-29-06 10:09 AM   #22 
  - DING DING DING--THIS should the Dem religious strategy!!!  rocknation   Jun-29-06 10:22 AM   #27 
  - Absolutely agreed. nt  JerseygirlCT   Jun-29-06 10:22 AM   #28 
  - NO ONE is saying that religion isn't important to the Dems  rocknation   Jun-29-06 01:09 PM   #41 
  - what's up with Obama now?  GregD   Jun-29-06 09:31 AM   #2 
  - Dean is right and struck the right balance when he appeared  Warpy   Jun-29-06 09:32 AM   #3 
  - he is pandering  still_one   Jun-29-06 09:38 AM   #9 
  - I disagree  goclark   Jun-29-06 09:41 AM   #11 
  - If you are talking about the Sojourner thing then you are wrong.  jwirr   Jun-29-06 09:32 AM   #4 
  - You don't reinforce Right-wing Frames EVER!  iconoclastNYC   Jun-29-06 09:40 AM   #10 
     - You don't reinforce Right-wing Frames EVER...  rocknation   Jun-29-06 11:31 AM   #35 
        - These people are not rw. Go and read the Sojourner Magazine  jwirr   Jun-29-06 05:01 PM   #44 
  - For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat.  baldguy   Jun-29-06 09:37 AM   #6 
  - It is just his opinion, we are all entitled to that  still_one   Jun-29-06 09:37 AM   #8 
  - Bingo  iconoclastNYC   Jun-29-06 09:41 AM   #12 
  - I do not believe Obama's speech is capitulating - he is re-framing  IndyOp   Jun-29-06 09:55 AM   #19 
     - I respectfully disagree, I think this is pandoring pure and simple  still_one   Jun-29-06 10:21 AM   #26 
  - Springer's right for a change, so's Obama. Hate is bad policy for liberals  jobycom   Jun-29-06 09:42 AM   #13 
  - How do liberals show respect?  iconoclastNYC   Jun-29-06 09:47 AM   #15 
  - no  Cocoa   Jun-29-06 09:51 AM   #17 
  - Well you didn't answer my question.  iconoclastNYC   Jun-29-06 02:56 PM   #42 
  - By not attacking  jobycom   Jun-29-06 10:02 AM   #20 
  - I'm confused, was Obama talking about DU posters?  endarkenment   Jun-29-06 10:18 AM   #24 
  - Yes  jobycom   Jun-29-06 11:23 AM   #33 
     - But their religious extremism is the problem.  endarkenment   Jun-29-06 11:39 AM   #37 
        - I'm sure he's not expecting to win many crossover votes  jobycom   Jun-29-06 11:55 AM   #38 
  - We Use Those Terms To Distinguish them from Real Christians  AndyTiedye   Jun-29-06 10:59 AM   #31 
  - As an atheist  jobycom   Jun-29-06 11:33 AM   #36 
  - This Is an Outstanding Post  DoveTurnedHawk   Jun-29-06 12:01 PM   #39 
  - Thanks  jobycom   Jun-29-06 12:03 PM   #40 
  - Name one mainstream Liberal who has done any of that stuff you cite?  iconoclastNYC   Jun-29-06 02:58 PM   #43 
  - Not in his speech, he isn't. Reread it  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-29-06 10:30 AM   #29 
     - Exactly. He added that last line after I began typing my response  jobycom   Jun-29-06 11:10 AM   #32 
  - Get your false dichotomies right here!  endarkenment   Jun-29-06 10:14 AM   #23 
  - Good post. Though I may depart from your view in that I feel for  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-29-06 10:40 AM   #30 
  - framing is overrated  Cocoa   Jun-29-06 09:48 AM   #16 
  - Yeah I've noticed how it hasn't worked at all for the GOP. nt.  endarkenment   Jun-29-06 10:18 AM   #25 
  - unfortunately, supporting the separation of church and state . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-29-06 09:53 AM   #18 
  - Doesn't Springer have a trailer trash video or a PayperView  Skidmore   Jun-29-06 11:24 AM   #34 
 

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