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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:39 PM
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17. Just like the API spent millions on
That is really all they want, to raise doubts. You don't hear them (RW talking heads) say that it doesn't exist they just say "Well, you know there ARE some questions about this..." and usually they say that there is no concrete irrefutable evidence (please do not apply that standard to their friends in the churching business).

GREAT article here

Yet some forces of denialmost notably ExxonMobil and the American Petroleum Institute, of which ExxonMobil is a leading memberremained recalcitrant. In 1998, the New York Times exposed an API memo outlining a strategy to invest millions to maximize the impact of scientific views consistent with ours with Congress, the media and other key audiences. The document stated: Victory will be achieved whenrecognition of uncertainty becomes part of the conventional wisdom. Its hard to resist a comparison with a famous Brown and Williamson tobacco company memo from the late 1960s, which observed: Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the body of fact that exists in the mind of the general public. It is also the means of establishing a controversy.
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  -Bush Ignores Science, Claims There Is A Debate Over Global Warming kpete  Jun-26-06 02:10 PM   #0 
  - George Will doesn't believe there's a global warming problem.  The Backlash Cometh   Jun-26-06 02:13 PM   #1 
  - George Will never admitted to being an accessory to theft, either  MADem   Jun-26-06 02:20 PM   #8 
     - But he has a terrific vocabulary!  acmejack   Jun-26-06 02:27 PM   #12 
     - Yeah, he likes baseball too....  MADem   Jun-26-06 02:41 PM   #18 
     - Penalties. We need to file penalties against pundits who do this like  The Backlash Cometh   Jun-26-06 03:31 PM   #26 
  - He's right, there IS a debate  MADem   Jun-26-06 02:15 PM   #2 
  - As I understand it there are hundreds of studies that demonstrate  mediaman007   Jun-26-06 02:16 PM   #3 
  - I don't know of any evidence against it, but would like to see what all  kittenpants   Jun-26-06 02:24 PM   #10 
  - The problem is similar to the story of Balder's death  bryant69   Jun-26-06 02:17 PM   #4 
  - and MobilExxon is more than happy to provide the $$$ to anyone  MaineYooper   Jun-26-06 03:14 PM   #24 
  - Oh,what the hell does THAT little moron know about anything?  buff2   Jun-26-06 02:18 PM   #5 
  - Of course he does.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-26-06 02:19 PM   #6 
  - He represents Big Oil. Of course he's going to say that...  Junkdrawer   Jun-26-06 02:19 PM   #7 
  - I hate to defend Bush  Ravenseye   Jun-26-06 02:22 PM   #9 
  - The debate about is what is causing it has been settled...  Junkdrawer   Jun-26-06 02:27 PM   #13 
     - I know  Ravenseye   Jun-26-06 02:31 PM   #16 
     - it's an interesting change of strategy, though  Bill McBlueState   Jun-26-06 03:06 PM   #22 
        - They're going to spend $2 Billion on new studies...  Junkdrawer   Jun-26-06 03:13 PM   #23 
           - this is a problem in less controversial areas as well  Bill McBlueState   Jun-26-06 03:19 PM   #25 
  - In a related story, there is still debate on the "round earth" theory  ticapnews   Jun-26-06 02:25 PM   #11 
  - the only scientists still debating global warming are those . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-26-06 02:29 PM   #14 
  - Of course there is still a debate. There are still 2 scientists  walldude   Jun-26-06 02:29 PM   #15 
  - Just like the API spent millions on  underpants   Jun-26-06 02:39 PM   #17 
  - I think there is better ground for the enviro movement.  Radical Activist   Jun-26-06 02:47 PM   #19 
  - If Bush were a horse,  Uncle Joe   Jun-26-06 02:48 PM   #20 
  - so what about his OWN pentagon saying global warming a major security  bobbieinok   Jun-26-06 03:01 PM   #21 

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