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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. just not true (on the carcinogenic)
and to argue that THC is not addictive at all? It certainly doesnt rise to the level of nicotine or some of the other drugs sure, but remember there is not only physical addiction but also psychological addiction.

Marijuana is not "much safer" than alcohol. Both affect your ability to make rational decisions, both slow down your ability to process information and both could lead young adults to have unprotected sex, drive under the influence or make other poor decisions because of the influence both have.

I think it naive to believe that because a parent drinks with their kids, that their kids are only going to drink with their parents.

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  -Seeking Common Ground #1: Marijuana & Minors IdaBriggs  Jun-20-06 08:19 PM   #0 
  - Nope.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-20-06 08:20 PM   #1 
  - Exactly.  Ariana Celeste   Jun-20-06 09:27 PM   #28 
  - Yes  bbinacan   Jun-20-06 08:22 PM   #2 
  - I think there is a huge difference between a parent providing  dsc   Jun-20-06 08:23 PM   #3 
  - If You Give Your Kid Drugs, And I Find Out About It  Southpawkicker   Jun-20-06 10:40 PM   #50 
     - Damn straight!  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 11:09 PM   #61 
     - No, Maybe If Their Parents Didn't Condone The Behavior  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:36 PM   #106 
        - My problems?  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 09:19 PM   #109 
           - So You Don't Have Any Problems?  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 09:32 PM   #113 
              - Popcorn annoys me...  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 10:03 PM   #117 
                 - Wouldn't It Be Better  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 10:06 PM   #118 
                    - It's not my choice, when you get right down to it.  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 10:22 PM   #126 
     - That's awfully absolutist, don't you think?  Solon   Jun-21-06 12:09 AM   #65 
     - Is It Legal?  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:35 PM   #105 
        - If that's your litmus test, then wine in church qualifies as well...  Solon   Jun-21-06 09:35 PM   #114 
           - If Wine In The Church Is Illegal, I'll Eat My Bill Of Rights  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 09:36 PM   #115 
              - It has alcohol in it doesn't it?  Solon   Jun-21-06 10:01 PM   #116 
              - Shut It Down!  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 10:07 PM   #119 
                 - All right then, how about this, should Rastas have the right to...  Solon   Jun-21-06 10:16 PM   #122 
              - actually until a recent law overturning a supreme court case it was i  dsc   Jun-21-06 10:18 PM   #123 
     - Hmmm. Next passover I'll point you towards some doors you can kick down.  impeachdubya   Jun-21-06 12:47 AM   #77 
     - Hey, Come On Down And I'll Show You How It's Done  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:34 PM   #104 
        - excuse me  dsc   Jun-21-06 10:20 PM   #124 
           - I Think You Are Responding To Me  Southpawkicker   Jun-22-06 07:00 PM   #131 
              - You weren't responding to me  dsc   Jun-22-06 08:03 PM   #132 
                 - Okay, You're Right , I Was RESPONDING TO YOU!  Southpawkicker   Jun-22-06 09:09 PM   #133 
     - So should Catholics be arrested upon their child's first Communion  dsc   Jun-21-06 06:34 AM   #88 
     - My Church Uses Wine As Well  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:29 PM   #102 
        - And I said getting someone else's kid drunk was wrong  dsc   Jun-21-06 08:43 PM   #107 
           - A Sip, Or A Dunked Wafer  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:51 PM   #108 
              - I am presuming a glass with dinner  dsc   Jun-21-06 10:14 PM   #121 
     - I think you need to get some perspective.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-21-06 01:09 PM   #96 
     - I Think YOU Need The Perspective  Southpawkicker   Jun-21-06 08:27 PM   #101 
     - Does that include wine?  mitchtv   Jun-21-06 10:10 PM   #120 
  - Too complicated for 'yes or no' answer.  Kutjara   Jun-20-06 08:25 PM   #4 
  - marijuana has many of the same  qazplm   Jun-20-06 08:29 PM   #8 
  - Marijuana's considerably less carcinogenic then tobacco.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-20-06 08:32 PM   #10 
     - just not true (on the carcinogenic)  qazplm   Jun-20-06 08:56 PM   #14 
     - And yet  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 09:04 PM   #17 
     - you know i can find a study  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:19 PM   #23 
     - Most kids don't drink?  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 09:27 PM   #29 
        - believe me  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:43 PM   #35 
           - So it depends on what survey you want to believe, eh?  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 10:03 PM   #41 
           - thanks  qazplm   Jun-20-06 10:42 PM   #51 
              - Then take a trip to Amsterdam and do it legally...  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 10:52 PM   #55 
              - its a very decent analogy  qazplm   Jun-21-06 12:16 AM   #69 
                 - Jumping off a cliff is immediately, directly harmful...  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 12:38 AM   #73 
              - so- how does jumping off a cliff feel then?  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 11:29 PM   #62 
                 - Ummm.  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 11:30 PM   #63 
                 - see  qazplm   Jun-21-06 12:14 AM   #67 
                 - it feels very painful  qazplm   Jun-21-06 12:15 AM   #68 
                    - It's a faulty analogy...  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 12:27 AM   #71 
                    - it's not a faulty analogy...  QuestionAll   Jun-21-06 07:56 AM   #91 
                    - Yeah, and Priests think they're in a position to lecture about sex, too.  impeachdubya   Jun-21-06 02:06 AM   #81 
                    - well, apparently a lot of them DO have experience in that area.  QuestionAll   Jun-21-06 07:51 AM   #89 
                       - That's icky.  impeachdubya   Jun-21-06 11:56 AM   #93 
                    - and that relates to marijuana use again...how exactly?  QuestionAll   Jun-21-06 07:54 AM   #90 
                       - If he argues like that in court  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 09:21 PM   #110 
           - Your underage drinking figures are low.  High Plains   Jun-21-06 01:23 PM   #97 
     - and seeing the parent as a hippocrit in the process, yes you are right  madokie   Jun-21-06 12:44 AM   #74 
     - Well if psychological  MrPrax   Jun-20-06 09:28 PM   #30 
     - Absolutely...  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 09:31 PM   #32 
     - hmmmm...  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:48 PM   #36 
        - If you are an attorney, then I'm sure you're aware  ms liberty   Jun-20-06 10:54 PM   #56 
        - Considering wikipedia is pretty much a dog's breakfast  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 11:08 PM   #60 
        - I've found  qazplm   Jun-21-06 12:17 AM   #70 
        - I have to call MAJOR bullshit on that one.  nonconformist   Jun-21-06 01:11 AM   #78 
        - that's funny  Maine-ah   Jun-21-06 05:31 AM   #87 
        - Ooo, sorry, you're wrong.  Bornaginhooligan   Jun-21-06 01:08 PM   #95 
     - marijuana is MUCH safer than alcohol.  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 09:42 PM   #34 
     - another part of it...nicotine is a vascular constrictor-  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 09:50 PM   #38 
        - An ounce a week?  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 10:07 PM   #42 
           - "bigger bong hits." How true!  vickiss   Jun-20-06 10:51 PM   #53 
  - I agree, and the European kids who grow up drinking wine with the family  wordpix2   Jun-21-06 02:22 AM   #82 
  - Double edge sword.  KyndCulture   Jun-20-06 08:26 PM   #5 
  - It can work both ways.  Kutjara   Jun-20-06 09:10 PM   #20 
     - or maybe  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:21 PM   #26 
        - Perhaps...  Kutjara   Jun-20-06 09:26 PM   #27 
           - it doesnt weaken the argument  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:50 PM   #39 
  - children under 18  qazplm   Jun-20-06 08:27 PM   #6 
  - 18's an artificial line  Jed Dilligan   Jun-20-06 08:30 PM   #9 
     - all lines are pretty artificial  qazplm   Jun-20-06 08:57 PM   #16 
        - We can send them to fight and die  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 09:06 PM   #18 
           - hey if you want to raise the enlistment age  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:16 PM   #22 
           - Good luck with that one...n/t  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 09:29 PM   #31 
           - which is why I bought my son a bottle the other day...  Viva_La_Revolution   Jun-21-06 12:45 AM   #75 
  - Other  Jed Dilligan   Jun-20-06 08:28 PM   #7 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-20-06 08:49 PM   #11 
     - Where have I said I take drugs?  Jed Dilligan   Jun-20-06 08:51 PM   #12 
     - My answer was intended as sarcasm, based on your post  IdaBriggs   Jun-20-06 09:19 PM   #24 
        - Once again, show me the link to my "daily drug use"  Jed Dilligan   Jun-20-06 10:56 PM   #57 
           - Whoops! Official apologies for the "daily drug use" comment -- Confused  IdaBriggs   Jun-21-06 03:24 AM   #83 
              - Profiling, false accusation and conviction  Jed Dilligan   Jun-21-06 10:10 AM   #92 
     - And you wonder why people don't think you are open to debate.  dicksteele   Jun-20-06 08:53 PM   #13 
  - I was able to drink with my father  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 08:56 PM   #15 
  - Easy To Test The Reaction-Time Claims  AndyTiedye   Jun-21-06 07:16 PM   #100 
     - I haven't indulged in what feels like forever...  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 09:24 PM   #111 
  - Throw the parents in jail!  madmusic   Jun-20-06 09:09 PM   #19 
  - just because something is criminal  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:20 PM   #25 
     - That's not how the vote is going  madmusic   Jun-21-06 12:33 AM   #72 
  - christ no  WindRavenX   Jun-20-06 09:12 PM   #21 
  - what about young cancer/aids patients...?  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 09:41 PM   #33 
  - there is a difference  qazplm   Jun-20-06 09:49 PM   #37 
     - the OP makes no distinction...  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 09:54 PM   #40 
  - Putting alcohol & marijuana together with hard drugs is absurd.  Yollam   Jun-20-06 10:11 PM   #43 
  - I'd say that alcohol has more in common with those hard drugs  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 10:13 PM   #44 
     - In large quantities, yes.  Yollam   Jun-20-06 10:21 PM   #46 
        - I've always found the idea of pot as an "escape" to be rather interesting  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 10:37 PM   #48 
           - That's because pot has drastically different effects on different people.  Yollam   Jun-20-06 10:52 PM   #54 
              - I wonder if the differences are biological  Mythsaje   Jun-20-06 11:04 PM   #59 
  - No absolute moral ground  sweetheart   Jun-20-06 10:15 PM   #45 
  - It depends if it's your kid and you allow a little wine on the holidays  genieroze   Jun-20-06 10:30 PM   #47 
  - many questions in one..  noshenanigans   Jun-20-06 10:38 PM   #49 
  - Oh people still do opium.  Ariana Celeste   Jun-20-06 10:45 PM   #52 
     - cool!  noshenanigans   Jun-20-06 10:59 PM   #58 
  - Other: Flawed Poll  nonconformist   Jun-20-06 11:44 PM   #64 
  - I agree  Reverend_Smitty   Jun-21-06 10:22 PM   #125 
  - Bullshit poll...  Solon   Jun-21-06 12:11 AM   #66 
  - I think the penalty should be the same as for providing alcohol to minors.  impeachdubya   Jun-21-06 12:46 AM   #76 
  - This is a "yes and no" kind of question for me  conflictgirl   Jun-21-06 01:23 AM   #79 
  - I answered other  Asgaya Dihi   Jun-21-06 01:28 AM   #80 
  - Haven't checked out your link yet, but I think you identified the problem:  IdaBriggs   Jun-21-06 04:01 AM   #84 
     - Education is the answer I'd think  Asgaya Dihi   Jun-21-06 04:09 AM   #85 
        - One of my issues is the "Russian Roulette" factor. For 'some people'  IdaBriggs   Jun-21-06 04:51 AM   #86 
           - Sorry to be slow answering, needed some sleep  Asgaya Dihi   Jun-21-06 01:02 PM   #94 
           - Instead of trying to "own" some other parent, maybe you should  High Plains   Jun-21-06 01:29 PM   #99 
  - yes. everyone should be arrested and punished for everything  anarch   Jun-21-06 01:28 PM   #98 
  - Please, stop with this agenda driven screed  MadHound   Jun-21-06 08:32 PM   #103 
  - I don't think pot is a gateway drug to heavier drugs.  Breeze54   Jun-21-06 09:29 PM   #112 
  - This poll is biased into saying yes..  pooja   Jun-21-06 10:26 PM   #127 
  - Most states have a parental exception for alcohol  jberryhill   Jun-21-06 11:10 PM   #128 
  - I get the feeling there are some among us  Mythsaje   Jun-21-06 11:25 PM   #129 
  - I see your game now.  Jed Dilligan   Jun-22-06 05:14 PM   #130 
 

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