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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:00 PM
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120. I just pasted the title of the article
I didn't want make up one of my own, that would suggest I was agreeing with the article or one of the ones referenced. I figured people would then see it was a post with an article and see the title of it and put two and two together. I didn't put quotes in, I guess because I was lazy. I know in the past, on certain topics, unless somebody is just looking to cause a fight, if you come up with your own title and it suggests something then you will get flamed for it. I never anticipated I would get flamed either way. The idea though, is I never meant to cause a fight, I just posted a few articles as food for thought. Most people were fine with that.

Yes, but does Arianna have Rick Santorum post blogs on her website? Not that I know of. I just saw something I was interested in, it had a few accompanying articles and back and forth between the writer and the person she was critiquing. I thought maybe somebody, if they decided to sit down and read all the articles involved, might be able to get something from it. That was my intention and that is what I did.

You know, last year a woman made a thread asking: "When has feminist become a term of derision?" (paraphrase) That ended up being a fruitful interesting thread. I learned quite a bit on it. Yet, I post a few articles on the same topic, thinking maybe the discussion might be interesting as well, and some people question my motives. I am not trying to cause a fight, I am a decent person and, as a minority, I empathize with issues of gender and racial significance. I want to learn all I can about them. So I read about it and posted this. Is it that far-fetched that somebody could just post something out of interest without wanting to start a fight about it? I would hope so.

You know, when I first go a job as a columnist one of my first published columns was about the discrimination in the work place of women, specifically minority women. This is something I am passionate and caring about. Am I perfect? Well no. But I'll put it to you this way, I try to understand and inform myself at least. That's about all I can say really, if others can't accept that, I don't know what else to say.
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  -This is Why So Many People Hate Feminists Wetzelbill  Jun-20-06 10:27 AM   #0 
  - "Every mother is a working mother"  Taverner   Jun-20-06 10:28 AM   #1 
  - yes  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 10:33 AM   #3 
  - Then throw some volunteering on top of that.  missb   Jun-20-06 10:37 AM   #9 
     - oh yes  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 10:51 AM   #28 
     - I am in awe of my stay-at-home sister  RadFemFL   Jun-20-06 02:00 PM   #94 
  - This is a slogan invented by Feminists....  Jade Fox   Jun-20-06 11:49 AM   #60 
     - RIGHT  marions ghost   Jun-20-06 12:08 PM   #70 
     - Agree, this is a bogus column  OzarkDem   Jun-20-06 01:29 PM   #91 
  - Satying home to raise the children is NOT alife sentence for gosh sake...  elehhhhna   Jun-20-06 10:33 AM   #2 
  - Not all feminists hate staying at home.  missb   Jun-20-06 10:34 AM   #4 
  - Amen!  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-20-06 10:37 AM   #8 
  - yes, Hirshman is anti woman -  donsu   Jun-20-06 10:40 AM   #14 
  - Agreed.  TahitiNut   Jun-20-06 02:05 PM   #95 
  - Good thing not all feminists believe that.  Fierce   Jun-20-06 10:36 AM   #5 
  - Didn't I read recently stay-at-home caregivers...  Prag   Jun-20-06 10:37 AM   #6 
  - Teachers would, for sure  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-20-06 10:38 AM   #10 
  - Them too!  Prag   Jun-20-06 10:49 AM   #27 
  - You probably did, but its utter bullshit  ComerPerro   Jun-20-06 10:45 AM   #21 
  - Of course no feminist catfight would be complete without stereotyping men  MindPilot   Jun-20-06 10:37 AM   #7 
  - No kidding.  missb   Jun-20-06 10:39 AM   #12 
  - yes but I think  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:21 AM   #45 
  - I'm sick of the term 'catfight' used in reference to women!  Breeze54   Jun-20-06 12:04 PM   #67 
  - Hirshman comes off as a pompous, arrogant twit.  Union Thug   Jun-20-06 10:39 AM   #11 
  - Stay-at-home mothers are a luxury for the wealthy. That should be the  sinkingfeeling   Jun-20-06 10:40 AM   #13 
  - Not all  JNelson6563   Jun-20-06 10:44 AM   #16 
  - I heard something interesting last year  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 10:44 AM   #17 
  - The homeschool initiative...  Finder   Jun-20-06 11:04 AM   #39 
  - yes and it would be you  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:26 AM   #48 
     - busy, and you? n/t  Finder   Jun-20-06 11:35 AM   #54 
        - semi-busy  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 02:28 PM   #100 
  - Interesting that churches are interested in socialist concept.  quantessd   Jun-20-06 12:20 PM   #73 
     - Well that is secret behind megachurches...  Finder   Jun-20-06 02:52 PM   #107 
  - not at all.  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 10:45 AM   #18 
  - Not for single moms  CTyankee   Jun-20-06 01:27 PM   #90 
     - the poster was talking about two-income families.  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 02:40 PM   #104 
  - agree, 100%.  ComerPerro   Jun-20-06 10:46 AM   #22 
  - Exactly. My father was a union printer and mom stayed at home..  Union Thug   Jun-20-06 10:48 AM   #24 
  - yeah  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 10:55 AM   #30 
  - Not true in most cases. n/t  Finder   Jun-20-06 11:09 AM   #42 
  - Wrong. It would sure make it easy if you were wealthy but many are  Pirate Smile   Jun-20-06 12:03 PM   #66 
  - I'm a stay-at-home dad of three kids, one with special needs.  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-20-06 02:40 PM   #103 
  - Yeh, this whole issue has always really bothered me...  TygrBright   Jun-20-06 10:43 AM   #15 
  - Wages  SOS   Jun-20-06 10:45 AM   #19 
  - Reactionaries are coming from all sides these days.  The Stranger   Jun-20-06 10:45 AM   #20 
  - Doesn't a person have a responsibility to provide financially for  RGBolen   Jun-20-06 10:47 AM   #23 
  - As far as I know,  ayeshahaqqiqa   Jun-20-06 10:48 AM   #25 
  - oh that made me so mad  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 10:59 AM   #35 
  - I've been told essentially the same thing about being married  MindPilot   Jun-20-06 11:59 AM   #64 
     - This is why Sandra Day O'Connor was so valuable  question everything   Jun-20-06 12:25 PM   #75 
  - Unfortunately that attitude is rampant.  laundry_queen   Jun-20-06 11:57 AM   #63 
  - "Buy hats"  Branjor   Jun-20-06 12:14 PM   #71 
     - Yes, yes they do.  MindPilot   Jun-20-06 01:14 PM   #86 
        - You were laid off....  Branjor   Jun-20-06 02:43 PM   #106 
  - Just like Ann Coulter - one person's opinion that is used the MSM  question everything   Jun-20-06 10:49 AM   #26 
  - Best post I've read so far  lukasahero   Jun-20-06 11:43 AM   #58 
  - "Choice" should be the mantra of the Left  theboss   Jun-20-06 10:51 AM   #29 
  - One nutball doesn't represent all feminists.  SmokingJacket   Jun-20-06 10:55 AM   #31 
  - Stay at home mom here  earthmama   Jun-20-06 10:56 AM   #32 
  - Can't argue that. But some never have the opportunity to be home with  sinkingfeeling   Jun-20-06 11:54 AM   #62 
  - I am sorry  earthmama   Jun-20-06 12:51 PM   #83 
  - Good for you!  Breeze54   Jun-20-06 12:33 PM   #77 
  - All bogus.  MamaBear   Jun-20-06 10:57 AM   #33 
  - I agree  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:02 AM   #37 
     - Yes.  MamaBear   Jun-20-06 11:07 AM   #41 
  - Where did we get the idea that "so many people hate feminists"?  Peace Patriot   Jun-20-06 10:58 AM   #34 
  - it's partly because the movement has been demonized  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:12 AM   #43 
  - Using Powers logic, can I now assume that all huffington columnists  Jim__   Jun-20-06 11:01 AM   #36 
  - If motherhood were really such a great job....  Scout   Jun-20-06 11:02 AM   #38 
  - Yep (n/t)  Triana   Jun-20-06 11:40 AM   #57 
  - Yup, and it would pay well, too!  Peace Patriot   Jun-20-06 03:17 PM   #115 
  - It's an oppression thing.  Dhalgren   Jun-20-06 11:05 AM   #40 
  - That is not a feminist speaking, but a fool.  Skidmore   Jun-20-06 11:16 AM   #44 
  - which one?  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:24 AM   #46 
     - Hirshman.  Skidmore   Jun-20-06 11:28 AM   #50 
  - hate is too strong. she has points. i like my set up. works for us  seabeyond   Jun-20-06 11:26 AM   #47 
  - if you don't mind me asking  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 11:27 AM   #49 
     - stay at home.  seabeyond   Jun-20-06 11:30 AM   #52 
  - Straw man. This is crap.  StellaBlue   Jun-20-06 11:29 AM   #51 
  - Did anyone on this thread go back and read the actual article  Scout   Jun-20-06 11:32 AM   #53 
  - In addition, there's never been a point in history where one woman  Iris   Jun-20-06 12:07 PM   #69 
  - So true, however it is difficult to discuss any possible solutions...  Finder   Jun-20-06 03:04 PM   #109 
  - I did read the article, and agree...  Finder   Jun-20-06 12:37 PM   #78 
     - same here  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 02:25 PM   #99 
  - Kirsten Powers works for Fox News.....  Jade Fox   Jun-20-06 11:37 AM   #55 
  - so that is why her name sounded familiar  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 12:39 PM   #79 
  - I always thought elevating the honor associated with motherhood  Radical Activist   Jun-20-06 11:38 AM   #56 
  - I'm taking issue with "so many people hate Feminists"  donsu   Jun-20-06 11:45 AM   #59 
  - I loathe the working mother/SAHM bitch fest  GloriaSmith   Jun-20-06 11:49 AM   #61 
  - Real women don't do this..  quantessd   Jun-20-06 12:56 PM   #84 
  - First the immigrants and now women are being attacked.  Cleita   Jun-20-06 12:00 PM   #65 
  - uh...I didn't!  Breeze54   Jun-20-06 12:25 PM   #74 
     - Well, I lived in L. A. and the only women who could stay home  Cleita   Jun-20-06 12:43 PM   #80 
  - Feminists are the ones who defend the stay at home moms and  shance   Jun-20-06 12:06 PM   #68 
  - What about men?  Karmakaze   Jun-20-06 12:57 PM   #85 
     - I read Hirshman's op ed  lumberjack_jeff   Jun-20-06 02:58 PM   #108 
  - That woman works for Fox News. she's NOT a feminist.  progressivebydesign   Jun-20-06 12:20 PM   #72 
  - Will someone please explain what  madmusic   Jun-20-06 12:31 PM   #76 
  - The article is nearly a year old  OzarkDem   Jun-20-06 12:47 PM   #81 
  - which article?  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 01:34 PM   #92 
  - Did anyone actually read Hirshman's column?  Karmakaze   Jun-20-06 12:49 PM   #82 
  - I Read Both Her Pieces; Not Surprised She is Being Vilified Here  REP   Jun-20-06 03:28 PM   #116 
  - I'm a stay at home mom, or a work at home dad, or the other way around.  hunter   Jun-20-06 01:16 PM   #87 
  - and to think i always thought that THIS is why:  QuestionAll   Jun-20-06 01:20 PM   #88 
  - Another attempt to create a wedge  suffragette   Jun-20-06 01:27 PM   #89 
  - why post BS from a known conservative + feminist hater? why keep her  bettyellen   Jun-20-06 01:50 PM   #93 
  - great question, bettyellen  suffragette   Jun-20-06 02:11 PM   #97 
  - didn't know she was one  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 02:32 PM   #101 
     - "Why even ask that question?"  suffragette   Jun-20-06 03:08 PM   #111 
     - I just pasted the title of the article  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 04:00 PM   #120 
     - you couldn't tell she was conservative from reading it? and the mommy  bettyellen   Jun-20-06 03:37 PM   #118 
  - because that is the name of the article  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 02:22 PM   #98 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-20-06 02:41 PM   #105 
  - Oh, come on, they find one screwball and give her  catD   Jun-20-06 02:10 PM   #96 
  - yes sorry about that  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 03:13 PM   #114 
  - DID A MEMO GO OUT IT'S TIME TO START GENDER WARS IN GD AGAIN?  omega minimo   Jun-20-06 02:37 PM   #102 
  - yeah because you know me  Wetzelbill   Jun-20-06 03:07 PM   #110 
  - I know the OP and his interest is such as he posted.  havocmom   Jun-20-06 03:13 PM   #113 
  - thank you. if you're going to play stupid, you're going to be treated as  bettyellen   Jun-20-06 03:29 PM   #117 
  - Its the same old tired argument  Ksec   Jun-20-06 03:08 PM   #112 
  - People hate "feminists" for the same reason they hate "liberals."  Odin2005   Jun-20-06 03:40 PM   #119 
  - Feminism Isn't The Problem, Extremists Are. What's Worse, Is Moronic Ones  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Jun-20-06 04:20 PM   #121 
  - Personally, my take on the matter, for what it's worth (about 2 cents):  Dorian Gray   Jun-20-06 04:27 PM   #122 
  - Locking  RoadRunner   Jun-20-06 04:30 PM   #123 

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