Cleita
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Tue Jun-20-06 12:00 PM
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| 65. First the immigrants and now women are being attacked. |
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Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 12:03 PM by Cleita
It sure must be election year and the RW chess players are setting up their pieces for the final kill. Also, here comes the strawman. As a woman who had to work all her life out of necessity as did most of my friends, we envied the wife who could stay home to be there for her children. We didn't look down on her as the author of that crap seems to imply. Also, those lucky enough to stay at home also had plenty of household help.
Since about half the work force are women who are single mothers, usually from divorce, our feminism stemmed from the need for better wages and higher promotions so we could afford to raise our children often with very little help from their birth fathers.
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| -This is Why So Many People Hate Feminists |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:27 AM |
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"Every mother is a working mother" |
Taverner |
Jun-20-06 10:28 AM |
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yes |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:33 AM |
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Then throw some volunteering on top of that. |
missb |
Jun-20-06 10:37 AM |
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oh yes |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:51 AM |
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I am in awe of my stay-at-home sister |
RadFemFL |
Jun-20-06 02:00 PM |
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This is a slogan invented by Feminists.... |
Jade Fox |
Jun-20-06 11:49 AM |
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RIGHT |
marions ghost |
Jun-20-06 12:08 PM |
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Agree, this is a bogus column |
OzarkDem |
Jun-20-06 01:29 PM |
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Satying home to raise the children is NOT alife sentence for gosh sake... |
elehhhhna |
Jun-20-06 10:33 AM |
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Not all feminists hate staying at home. |
missb |
Jun-20-06 10:34 AM |
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Amen! |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jun-20-06 10:37 AM |
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yes, Hirshman is anti woman - |
donsu |
Jun-20-06 10:40 AM |
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Agreed. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-20-06 02:05 PM |
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Good thing not all feminists believe that. |
Fierce |
Jun-20-06 10:36 AM |
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Didn't I read recently stay-at-home caregivers... |
Prag |
Jun-20-06 10:37 AM |
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Teachers would, for sure |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jun-20-06 10:38 AM |
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Them too! |
Prag |
Jun-20-06 10:49 AM |
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You probably did, but its utter bullshit |
ComerPerro |
Jun-20-06 10:45 AM |
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Of course no feminist catfight would be complete without stereotyping men |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-06 10:37 AM |
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No kidding. |
missb |
Jun-20-06 10:39 AM |
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yes but I think |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:21 AM |
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I'm sick of the term 'catfight' used in reference to women! |
Breeze54 |
Jun-20-06 12:04 PM |
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Hirshman comes off as a pompous, arrogant twit. |
Union Thug |
Jun-20-06 10:39 AM |
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Stay-at-home mothers are a luxury for the wealthy. That should be the |
sinkingfeeling |
Jun-20-06 10:40 AM |
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Not all |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-20-06 10:44 AM |
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I heard something interesting last year |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:44 AM |
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The homeschool initiative... |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 11:04 AM |
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yes and it would be you |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:26 AM |
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busy, and you? n/t |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 11:35 AM |
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semi-busy |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 02:28 PM |
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Interesting that churches are interested in socialist concept. |
quantessd |
Jun-20-06 12:20 PM |
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Well that is secret behind megachurches... |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 02:52 PM |
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not at all. |
QuestionAll |
Jun-20-06 10:45 AM |
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Not for single moms |
CTyankee |
Jun-20-06 01:27 PM |
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the poster was talking about two-income families. |
QuestionAll |
Jun-20-06 02:40 PM |
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agree, 100%. |
ComerPerro |
Jun-20-06 10:46 AM |
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Exactly. My father was a union printer and mom stayed at home.. |
Union Thug |
Jun-20-06 10:48 AM |
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yeah |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:55 AM |
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Not true in most cases. n/t |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 11:09 AM |
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Wrong. It would sure make it easy if you were wealthy but many are |
Pirate Smile |
Jun-20-06 12:03 PM |
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I'm a stay-at-home dad of three kids, one with special needs. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-20-06 02:40 PM |
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Yeh, this whole issue has always really bothered me... |
TygrBright |
Jun-20-06 10:43 AM |
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Wages |
SOS |
Jun-20-06 10:45 AM |
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Reactionaries are coming from all sides these days. |
The Stranger |
Jun-20-06 10:45 AM |
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Doesn't a person have a responsibility to provide financially for |
RGBolen |
Jun-20-06 10:47 AM |
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As far as I know, |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jun-20-06 10:48 AM |
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oh that made me so mad |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 10:59 AM |
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I've been told essentially the same thing about being married |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-06 11:59 AM |
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This is why Sandra Day O'Connor was so valuable |
question everything |
Jun-20-06 12:25 PM |
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Unfortunately that attitude is rampant. |
laundry_queen |
Jun-20-06 11:57 AM |
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"Buy hats" |
Branjor |
Jun-20-06 12:14 PM |
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Yes, yes they do. |
MindPilot |
Jun-20-06 01:14 PM |
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You were laid off.... |
Branjor |
Jun-20-06 02:43 PM |
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Just like Ann Coulter - one person's opinion that is used the MSM |
question everything |
Jun-20-06 10:49 AM |
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Best post I've read so far |
lukasahero |
Jun-20-06 11:43 AM |
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"Choice" should be the mantra of the Left |
theboss |
Jun-20-06 10:51 AM |
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One nutball doesn't represent all feminists. |
SmokingJacket |
Jun-20-06 10:55 AM |
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Stay at home mom here |
earthmama |
Jun-20-06 10:56 AM |
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Can't argue that. But some never have the opportunity to be home with |
sinkingfeeling |
Jun-20-06 11:54 AM |
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I am sorry |
earthmama |
Jun-20-06 12:51 PM |
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Good for you! |
Breeze54 |
Jun-20-06 12:33 PM |
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All bogus. |
MamaBear |
Jun-20-06 10:57 AM |
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I agree |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:02 AM |
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Yes. |
MamaBear |
Jun-20-06 11:07 AM |
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Where did we get the idea that "so many people hate feminists"? |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-20-06 10:58 AM |
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it's partly because the movement has been demonized |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:12 AM |
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Using Powers logic, can I now assume that all huffington columnists |
Jim__ |
Jun-20-06 11:01 AM |
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If motherhood were really such a great job.... |
Scout |
Jun-20-06 11:02 AM |
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Yep (n/t) |
Triana |
Jun-20-06 11:40 AM |
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Yup, and it would pay well, too! |
Peace Patriot |
Jun-20-06 03:17 PM |
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It's an oppression thing. |
Dhalgren |
Jun-20-06 11:05 AM |
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That is not a feminist speaking, but a fool. |
Skidmore |
Jun-20-06 11:16 AM |
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which one? |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:24 AM |
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Hirshman. |
Skidmore |
Jun-20-06 11:28 AM |
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hate is too strong. she has points. i like my set up. works for us |
seabeyond |
Jun-20-06 11:26 AM |
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if you don't mind me asking |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 11:27 AM |
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stay at home. |
seabeyond |
Jun-20-06 11:30 AM |
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Straw man. This is crap. |
StellaBlue |
Jun-20-06 11:29 AM |
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Did anyone on this thread go back and read the actual article |
Scout |
Jun-20-06 11:32 AM |
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In addition, there's never been a point in history where one woman |
Iris |
Jun-20-06 12:07 PM |
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So true, however it is difficult to discuss any possible solutions... |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 03:04 PM |
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I did read the article, and agree... |
Finder |
Jun-20-06 12:37 PM |
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same here |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 02:25 PM |
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Kirsten Powers works for Fox News..... |
Jade Fox |
Jun-20-06 11:37 AM |
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so that is why her name sounded familiar |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 12:39 PM |
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I always thought elevating the honor associated with motherhood |
Radical Activist |
Jun-20-06 11:38 AM |
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I'm taking issue with "so many people hate Feminists" |
donsu |
Jun-20-06 11:45 AM |
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I loathe the working mother/SAHM bitch fest |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-20-06 11:49 AM |
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Real women don't do this.. |
quantessd |
Jun-20-06 12:56 PM |
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First the immigrants and now women are being attacked. |
Cleita |
Jun-20-06 12:00 PM |
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uh...I didn't! |
Breeze54 |
Jun-20-06 12:25 PM |
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Well, I lived in L. A. and the only women who could stay home |
Cleita |
Jun-20-06 12:43 PM |
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Feminists are the ones who defend the stay at home moms and |
shance |
Jun-20-06 12:06 PM |
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What about men? |
Karmakaze |
Jun-20-06 12:57 PM |
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I read Hirshman's op ed |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-20-06 02:58 PM |
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That woman works for Fox News. she's NOT a feminist. |
progressivebydesign |
Jun-20-06 12:20 PM |
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Will someone please explain what |
madmusic |
Jun-20-06 12:31 PM |
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The article is nearly a year old |
OzarkDem |
Jun-20-06 12:47 PM |
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which article? |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 01:34 PM |
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Did anyone actually read Hirshman's column? |
Karmakaze |
Jun-20-06 12:49 PM |
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I Read Both Her Pieces; Not Surprised She is Being Vilified Here |
REP |
Jun-20-06 03:28 PM |
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I'm a stay at home mom, or a work at home dad, or the other way around. |
hunter |
Jun-20-06 01:16 PM |
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and to think i always thought that THIS is why: |
QuestionAll |
Jun-20-06 01:20 PM |
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Another attempt to create a wedge |
suffragette |
Jun-20-06 01:27 PM |
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why post BS from a known conservative + feminist hater? why keep her |
bettyellen |
Jun-20-06 01:50 PM |
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great question, bettyellen |
suffragette |
Jun-20-06 02:11 PM |
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didn't know she was one |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 02:32 PM |
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"Why even ask that question?" |
suffragette |
Jun-20-06 03:08 PM |
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I just pasted the title of the article |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 04:00 PM |
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you couldn't tell she was conservative from reading it? and the mommy |
bettyellen |
Jun-20-06 03:37 PM |
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because that is the name of the article |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 02:22 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Jun-20-06 02:41 PM |
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Oh, come on, they find one screwball and give her |
catD |
Jun-20-06 02:10 PM |
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yes sorry about that |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 03:13 PM |
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DID A MEMO GO OUT IT'S TIME TO START GENDER WARS IN GD AGAIN? |
omega minimo |
Jun-20-06 02:37 PM |
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yeah because you know me |
Wetzelbill |
Jun-20-06 03:07 PM |
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I know the OP and his interest is such as he posted. |
havocmom |
Jun-20-06 03:13 PM |
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thank you. if you're going to play stupid, you're going to be treated as |
bettyellen |
Jun-20-06 03:29 PM |
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Its the same old tired argument |
Ksec |
Jun-20-06 03:08 PM |
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People hate "feminists" for the same reason they hate "liberals." |
Odin2005 |
Jun-20-06 03:40 PM |
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Feminism Isn't The Problem, Extremists Are. What's Worse, Is Moronic Ones |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jun-20-06 04:20 PM |
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Personally, my take on the matter, for what it's worth (about 2 cents): |
Dorian Gray |
Jun-20-06 04:27 PM |
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Locking |
RoadRunner |
Jun-20-06 04:30 PM |
#123 |