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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 07:15 PM
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5. Write a passionate letter to the DEMS who refused to filibuster Alito.
I'm sure they could use another laugh at your expense.
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  -Can you shoot cops who don't knock before they come in? ...Castle Doctrine LiviaOlivia  Jun-15-06 07:03 PM   #0 
  - Aren't conservatives fun?  BOSSHOG   Jun-15-06 07:08 PM   #1 
  - What BOSSHOG said....  Suich   Jun-15-06 07:12 PM   #2 
  - Or fire fighters or EMTs? Or anyone else who might come in  Patiod   Jun-15-06 07:12 PM   #3 
  - Wow. Right wing gun mania runs smack dab into right wing drug war fascism.  impeachdubya   Jun-15-06 07:13 PM   #4 
  - Write a passionate letter to the DEMS who refused to filibuster Alito.  Dr Fate   Jun-15-06 07:15 PM   #5 
  - You are in your home and people in camoflage kick in your door  rustydog   Jun-15-06 07:19 PM   #6 
  - Oh you can believe that when this situation occurs....  WestSeattle2   Jun-15-06 07:19 PM   #7 
  - Police no longer have an obligation to knock  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:29 AM   #33 
  - The author confuses two concepts  slackmaster   Jun-15-06 07:23 PM   #8 
  - According to this explanation of the 'Castle Doctrine'  LiviaOlivia   Jun-15-06 07:59 PM   #9 
     - Please see sections 198.5 and 199 of the California Penal Code  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:08 AM   #21 
        - key word here being 'illegally' (nt)  The Straight Story   Jun-16-06 10:11 AM   #22 
           - That's the whole point  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:15 AM   #24 
              - Indeed. You CAN shoot the cop, but the castle doctrine won't cover it. nt  The Straight Story   Jun-16-06 10:19 AM   #28 
                 - Never did, does not now, and never will  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:23 AM   #30 
  - The litigation will be "wrongful death" cases brought by the homeowner's..  Tesha   Jun-15-06 08:03 PM   #10 
  - Hey gun owners!!! Stand up for your Second Amendment Rights!  Swamp Rat   Jun-15-06 08:10 PM   #11 
  - Only if you're suicidal.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-15-06 08:17 PM   #12 
  - And of course the police always have the right address  LiviaOlivia   Jun-15-06 08:29 PM   #13 
     - Whoops! Sorry about that!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jun-15-06 08:32 PM   #14 
  - Of course.  BuyingThyme   Jun-15-06 08:34 PM   #15 
  - I'm in love with that question.  kiraboo   Jun-15-06 08:38 PM   #16 
  - kick  LiviaOlivia   Jun-15-06 10:11 PM   #17 
  - so regular unlawful break and entry can shout out 'Police' after the door  Jigarotta   Jun-15-06 10:21 PM   #18 
  - You probably "can"  Crabby Appleton   Jun-16-06 05:50 AM   #19 
  - Asked my wife who is a public defender here in FL  Sailor for Warner   Jun-16-06 05:56 AM   #20 
  - SCOTUS just upheld no-knock entry yesterday  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:12 AM   #23 
  - Actually I think that a good defense could be made for the homeowner  MadHound   Jun-16-06 10:19 AM   #26 
     - You would not be charged with murder in Florida, or even in California  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:26 AM   #32 
        - OK then, let's say that the situation is the same  MadHound   Jun-16-06 10:58 AM   #39 
           - You would not automatically be protected by Castle Doctrine  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 11:19 AM   #40 
              - But under the clause of reasonable fear  MadHound   Jun-16-06 11:39 AM   #41 
                 - Even if the hypothetical intruder did yell that they were "Police,"  coalition_unwilling   Jun-16-06 01:11 PM   #46 
  - Live by the gun, die by the gun  Toots   Jun-16-06 10:18 AM   #25 
  - In Florida you sure can!  annabanana   Jun-16-06 10:19 AM   #27 
  - Not if the police have a valid warrant  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:25 AM   #31 
     - Why would that matter?  Solon   Jun-16-06 12:56 PM   #44 
        - The part in the law that says it applies to an UNLAWFUL entry...  benEzra   Jun-16-06 01:49 PM   #48 
        - Law explicitly states that entry must be forcible and illegal  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 03:20 PM   #55 
  - Sure you can, just make sure you sleep in body armor...  Javaman   Jun-16-06 10:20 AM   #29 
  - 95% of those who shoot at the cops wouldn't be prosecuted.  TahitiNut   Jun-16-06 10:31 AM   #34 
  - Good luck putting your word up against the cops.  Sentinel Chicken   Jun-16-06 10:31 AM   #35 
  - True, you are always better off surrendering  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 10:36 AM   #36 
  - So just surrender to ANYBODY who breaks into your door?  Solon   Jun-16-06 12:59 PM   #45 
     - Police busting in are likely to have the upper hand  slackmaster   Jun-16-06 03:14 PM   #52 
  - Yes by all means..  sendero   Jun-16-06 10:54 AM   #38 
  - A cop or anyone else fucking with my door is going to get a 12 gauge blast  LaPera   Jun-16-06 10:51 AM   #37 
  - I'm wondering how far the fascists will extend their power before...  obreaslan   Jun-16-06 11:55 AM   #42 
  - Shooting in the dark.  Lorax   Jun-16-06 12:17 PM   #43 
  - All rifle bullets are armor-piercing  benEzra   Jun-16-06 01:42 PM   #47 
     - I should have said AND armor piercing bullets...  obreaslan   Jun-16-06 01:55 PM   #49 
        - One hopes so...I'm cautiously optimistic. (n/t)  benEzra   Jun-16-06 02:01 PM   #51 
  - Preventing such tragedies is why no-knocks used to be restricted...  benEzra   Jun-16-06 01:58 PM   #50 
  - You Can Shoot Anyone Anywhere Anytime  Southpawkicker   Jun-16-06 03:15 PM   #53 
  - I damn sure would  Joey Liberal   Jun-16-06 03:19 PM   #54 
  - This is a spurious line of reasoning.  igil   Jun-16-06 04:26 PM   #56 
  - The problem is, previous courts had found that the exclusionary rule  benEzra   Jun-18-06 04:21 PM   #57 
  - Cory Maye - sitting on death row now because he shot a cop  whutgives   Jun-18-06 04:30 PM   #58 

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